The Movie Carol and Its Place In the Queer Canon feat. Kira Deshler

On this episode, I am joined by romantic comedy scholar Ella Cerón, who is also the author of the excellent coming-of-age YA novel Viva Lola Espinoza. We talked about rom-coms and their tropes, especially focusing on Pride & Prejudice (2005) and Fire Island. Ella also recommends a bunch of her favorite romantic comedies, explains who Mr. Wickham is and why he’s an example of an important archetype, caramel Frappuccinos on Christmas, and much more. Come for the deep dive, stay for the stray meows from Ella's cat, Olive.Buy Ella’s book ASAP: Viva Lola Espinoza. And follow her on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.Things we talked about:Almost FamousThe Wedding Planner HitchHow to Lose a Guy in 10 DaysAlmost FamousTo All the Boys I’ve Loved BeforeViva Lola EspinozaManhunt by Gretchen Felker-MartinGet Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Ella and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

On this episode, I am joined by writer, astrologer, and teacher, Jeanna Kadlec, author of Heretic: A Memoir. We talked about Kadlec’s excellent book and how it braids her astute analysis and cultural history with her own memoir. Then we got deep into astrology and how it can inform how we see and understand what’s going on in our lives on both small and large scales. If you are interested in understanding astrology more, this episode is for you!Buy Jeanna’s book ASAP, it’s so good: Heretic: A Memoir! And follow her on Twitter, Instagram, and TiktokThings we talked about:Virology by Joseph OsmundsonThe work of author Melissa FebosAstrologer on instagram Diana Rose HarperSam Reynolds on Talking Astrology with Bill NyeStargazing on TLCAstro TwinsWritten in the Stars astrological dating showQueer Cosmos: The Astrology of Queer Identities & Relationships by Colin BedellBreach (2007)¡Viva Lola Espinoza! by Ella Cerón The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. JemisinGet Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Jeanna and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

On this episode, I am joined by noted Cate Blanchett enthusiast and Scorpio, Aubrey Gordon (@yrfatfriend) who you know from the excellent podcast Maintenance Phase. We talked about (and spoiled btw) the movie Tár. We talked about queer anti-heroes/villains, what this movie says (if anything) about cancel culture, whether this is a horror movie, and a lot more.Buy Aubrey’s books on Bookshop. Things we talked about:Imitation of Life Can You Ever Forgive Me?Michael ClaytonCarolThe Worst Idea of All Time podcastThe Best Idea of All Time podcast“‘Tár,’ Reviewed: Regressive Ideas to Match Regressive Aesthetics” by Richard Brody for The New Yorker“Tár is actually a horror movie” by Martin Millman for ColliderThread from r/blankies about ghosts in the movie TárGet Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

On this episode I’m joined by Josh Gondelman to talk about why being an NBA fan is a great hobby no matter how into sports you are or are not. We talked about doing trash talk but nicely, building community via sports fandom, which NBA team to become a fan of depending on what vibes you are in search of, and lots more.  Get Oh, I Like That merch here! Things we talked about:Josh on TwitterJosh’s newsletter That’s Marvelous!Josh’s touring scheduleBill Burr’s Philly rantJosh’s standup set in Philly when he talked about the Eagles being in the Super BowlSpinsters podcast episodes: an ode to Black hair, what it feels like to get traded, and reckoning with how pro sports teams deal with sexual assault and domestic violenceDesus & MeroZach Lowe’s podcast The Lowe PostChicago Bull Patrick Beverly showing a ref a missed foul on a cameraKatie Heindl’s newsletter Basketball FeelingsJaylen Brown Is Trying to Find a Balance by Logan Murdock for The RingerTipping PitchesFlagrant MagazineNBA fits of the week from Laura Jane FauldsNBA PaintsJoel Embiid trolling Ben Simmons with the  “RIP Bozo” memeThis episode was produced by Sally and Josh and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

For this episode, I’m joined by Rachel Vorona Cote (@RVoronaCote), author of the excellent book Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today to talk about the concept of “too muchness” (or, how social norms and expectations constrain women’s bodies, minds, and sexualities). Specifically, we looked at too muchness and the BBC series on HBO Gentleman Jack, a series based on the diaries of Anne Lister, aka “the first modern lesbian" who lived from 1791 to 1840. We talked about too muchness and: Anne Lister’s gender and sexuality, women’s mental health and the threat of institutionalization, and lots more. It was GREAT.Get Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Rachel and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.Things we talked about:Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today by Rachel Vorona CoteForbidden Notebook by Alba de CéspedesGentleman Jack: The Real Anne Lister by Anne ChomaThe Reform Act of 1832Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland (2010)The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens’ London by Judith FlandersSally's Veronica Mars newsletter Mars InvestigationsMy Gender is Maximalism by Frankie de la Cretaz for AutostraddlePretty Hate Machine by Nine Inch NailsPeaker Blinders (2013-2022)Poker Face (2023)Julia Furlan’s podcast recs for Women’s History MonthAlex Sujong Laughlin’s podcast recs for Women’s History Month

For this episode, I’m joined by Kira Deshler, lesbian pop culture expert, and writer of the newsletter Paging Dr. Lesbian. Kira and I talked about the movie Carol and why we and so many queer people are obsessed with it. From the longing glances and the shoulder touches to the whole Mommy’s Baby of it, we dove very deep. We also talked about lesbian pulp novel, sapphic romance movies generally, and Carol’s place in the overall canon.Get Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Kira and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.Things we talked about:Queer Female Fans: A Master’s Thesis by KiraThe 1945 movie Brief EncounterThe Price of Salt by Patricia HighsmithCarol is Not the Romance of Your Memes by Frankie de la Cretaz for VultureAmmonite (2020)Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019)CarmillaMarvel’s Agent CarterLong Live MILFs: On Stanning Middle-Aged Actresses by Kira for her newsletter

On this episode, Aubrey Gordon (@yrfatfriend) is here to talk about the 2022 Christmas romcom Looking For Her. We recapped the movie and then talked more in-depth about this affable, mild foray into the queer romcom space. We also tried to figure out what even makes a movie gay. Don’t forget to check out Aubrey’s 2021 book What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat!Get Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.Things we talked about:Aubrey’s forthcoming (2023) book You Just Need to Lose Weight And 19 Other Myths About Fat People (which you can pre-order here)The Society‘Looking for Her’ delivers a cozy holiday romance story by Gary M. Kramer for Gay City News

Zahra Barnes (head name nerd) is back to talk about names and naming things. We talked about our own names, our cats’ names, names and gender norms, name trends, and plenty more.Get Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Zahra and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.Things we talked about:r/namenerdsAll of Us Are DeadThe 50 Most Game of Thrones-y Names on Game of Thrones By Rachel Handler for Vulture@SonnyHoneyBubba

On this episode, Aubrey Gordon, writer and co-host of Maintenance Phase joins to talk all about working from home. We discuss how we get things done and stay focused as well as how we take breaks and take care of ourselves, all while trying not to work ourselves into a fine powder. Get Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.Things we talked about:The Last KingdomQuestion Team

On this episode, Zahra Barnes joins as guest co-host to talk about weddings. We talked about intentional planning, satisficers vs. maximizers, weird gender shit, and the depravity of getting married at a plantation. We also weighed in on whether a bride’s FAQ list for her wedding party was genius or rude.Get Oh, I Like That merch here! This episode was produced by Sally and Zahra and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.Things we talked about:The Love of My Life by Rosie WalshThe Art of Gathering by Priya ParkerOILT episode 22 (How to Throw a Better Party—During the Pandemic, or Whenever), where talked about The Art of Gathering in detailThe video game StrayA bride-to-be’s expectations list that went viral Airlie, where Zahra got married Reddit’s r/WeddingPlanning