Esther Perel on Why Desire Fades and How to Find Romance Again

Powerhouse actresses and producers Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock believe that our hardest seasons are often where we discover our truest strength. In this deeply moving and funny conversation from Making Space, Nicole and Sandra sit down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on the lessons they’ve learned from caregiving and raising teenagers with grace. They explore the beauty of evolving past public expectations, redefining family on your own terms, and choosing to lead with love and gratitude. This episode is about resilience, legacy, grace, and finding peace in the circle of life. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Pastor Michael Todd is the leader of the Transformation Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. This dynamic 34 year-old speaks to the power we all have to transform our own lives, turning the impossible into the reachable. He joins Hoda for an honest, high-energy and invigorating conversation, touching on topics from renewing relationships to overcoming struggles from the past. As Pastor Todd has seen in his life—and hopefully you will see in yours after listening—an idea, goal or a vision is only crazy until it happens. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Best-selling author Anne Lamott knows a thing about overcoming obstacles. Thirty-five years on the other side of her addiction, Anne is the author of 19 books, a mother, grandmother, and in her 60s, a wife for the first time. Anne offers wisdom, candidly, and often, hilariously. She shares what she calls "operating instructions": how to master a life of peace and gratitude—a reminder that grace always meets you exactly where you are. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to follow a clear roadmap, but Peloton instructor, best-selling author, and Nike athlete Tunde Oyeneyin believes that true freedom is found by stepping beyond fear and trusting your gut. In this deeply moving and funny conversation from Making Space, Tunde sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on her powerful journey from enduring painful childhood bullying and severe self-doubt to finding her voice, surviving the profound losses of her father, brother, and mother, and discovering a life-changing vision for her future on a cycling bike. This episode is about resilience, reinvention, and learning to love the person staring back in the mirror. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to follow a clear roadmap, but legendary journalist and author Joan Lunden believes that true resilience is found by stepping beyond the script. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, Joan sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on her nearly 20-year run as the longest running female host on morning television, the early heartbreak of losing her father at age 13, and the realities of being a working mother. She and Hoda explore the balance between public scrutiny and personal triumph, discussing her iconic bald People magazine cover during her breast cancer battle. This episode is about resilience, reinvention, and what it really means to embrace a life that others never expected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to follow a clear roadmap, but model, author, and advocate Emma Heming Willis believes that life's hardest seasons are often where we find our true purpose. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, Emma sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on navigating her husband Bruce Willis's frontotemporal dementia (FTD) diagnosis, breaking through the heavy isolation of caregiving, and learning how to ask for help before the ecosystem of care bottoms out. She and Hoda explore the delicate balance between grief and joy, embracing spontaneity, and allowing cracks of light to shine through matter in a world that often feels heavy. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to find a relationship that works, but psychotherapist and bestselling author Esther Perel believes that just living day to day isn't the same as truly feeling alive. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, the relationship expert sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on why passion often fades in partnerships and how couples can bridge the distance when they start to drift apart. She and Hoda explore the delicate balance between love and desire, discussing why the space we keep, the mystery we preserve, and the ways we ignite ourselves matter in a world that often feels contactless. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying not to feel broken, but poet and spiritual philosopher Mark Nepo believes that breaking is actually where life begins. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, the New York Times bestselling author of The Book of Awakening sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on how we can stay open, even when we are hurting, overwhelmed, or just trying to get through the day. Mark reflects on the wisdom he gained from his own life threatening cancer diagnosis and a debilitating back surgery, sharing how he learned to ground himself in the present when fear threatened to take over. He and Hoda explore his newest book, The Language of the Soul, discussing why the words we choose matter in a world that often feels divided. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

At 59 years old, Halle Berry is stepping into her most authentic chapter yet, and she’s not asking for permission. In this candid conversation with Hoda Kotb on Making Space, the Oscar-winning actress and director pulls back the curtain on the "invisible" stage of aging, the realities of menopause, and why she is done managing everyone else's expectations. Halle opens up about her passion project, and why she’s fighting to destigmatize women’s health in a society that often overlooks women once they turn 50. She also gets candid about her partnership with Joylux and her new product, "Juicy Like a Peach," sharing how this innovation helped her reclaim her sex life and why she believes it’s time to stop shying away from important conversations about pleasure. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Before she was a trailblazing icon, Laverne Cox was a little girl in Mobile, Alabama, fighting to survive in a world that told her she didn't belong. In this vulnerable conversation with Hoda Kotb, Laverne reflects on the untold story behind her memoir, Transcendent, and the long path to embracing her authentic self. Laverne pulls back the curtain on the survival mechanisms she developed as a child to endure trauma, including the years she spent "disassociating" just to make it through the day. She shares the realization that she was "cared for" but not truly loved, and how she eventually found the strength to forgive her mother and break the cycle of generational trauma. Join us for a powerful discussion on why "staying in the love" isn't just a mantra, it’s a life saving practice. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.