John Wayne Gacy with Dr Richard Rappaport

Criminal profiler Professor Paul Britton and geographic profiler Professor Sam Lundrigan joined podcast producer Sam Pearson for a special live interview at the first CrimeCon UK in September 2021. Both contributors to Crime+Investigation's Making a Monster, they discussed their careers and their thoughts on the true crime genre.You can find out more about CrimeCon UK by searching online or social media, and watch more from the event on Crime+Investigation's YouTube channel. If you haven't already, catch the Making a Monster TV series on Crime+Investigation Play.This special bonus episode of Making a Monster: The Tapes was produced and hosted by Sam Pearson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"No crime is ever committed in a random location."Dr Samantha Lundrigan’s expertise lies in geographic profiling systems and the spatial behaviour of criminals. Dr Lundrigan has worked closely with police and provided offender and geographic profiles on a series of serious crime investigations. She has also provided training to police officers in the area of environmental criminology and investigative psychology. Dr Lundrigan brings her knowledge to help us understand how a serial killer’s geography may influence their crimes.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"If it can be imagined, no matter how depraved, it can be done."Dr Eric Cullen is a Clinical Forensic Psychologist and has spent much of his working life working in prisons throughout the UK, including the therapeutic prison, Grendon. Dr Cullen brings his expertise with dangerous offenders to the fore, and analyses what key areas of their lives cause our serial killers to commit murder.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"I believe it was in every sense of the word a tragedy."Professor Jethro Toomer has spent over 35 years practising forensic and clinical psychology. Professor Toomer has worked at Florida International University, as well as a treatment consultant for the NBA and the NFL. He also specialises in death row cases, and has interviewed a number of high-profile serial killers, including Ted Bundy and Aileen Wuornos. Professor Toomer carried out the psychological assessment of Wuornos prior to her trial, where she discussed her troubled life and transition to serial killing in unprecedented detail.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"He was plagued with these fantasies, with these thoughts, about wanting to harm, and subjugate, and even murder women."Dr Fred Berlin is an American psychiatrist and sexologist specializing in sex offences. Dr Berlin has been an attending psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore since 1978, where he also founded the 'Sexual Disorders Clinic'. He has appeared as an expert witness in numerous high-profile trials, including that of Jeffrey Dahmer. Dr Berlin testified for Ross at trial, and also supported him through his attempts to bring forward his death penalty.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"It's hard to be a serial killer and have remorse. I mean, you could cry yourself to death thinking about what you've done."Dr Richard Rappaport is a clinical psychologist based in California who has profiled and testified for numerous murder cases, including as an expert witness in John Wayne Gacy's trial.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"He was a clown. And he played the part of a clown even when he wasn't made up."A clinical psychologist, Dr Richard Rappaport interviewed John Wayne Gacy for over 65 hours, gaining a deep understanding of his psyche and the factors that drove him to kill.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"It's their fetishes that feed how they kill."Dr Richard Shepherd’s career as one of the UK’s most distinguished forensic pathologists saw him involved in disasters from the Hungerford shootings to the Bali bombings, and in high-profile cases from Harold Shipman to Stephen Lawrence. Dr Shepherd has examined over 23,000 bodies in his working life and provides an incredible insight into the minds of serial killer through their horrific actions.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"People who do bad things sometimes believe they're doing it for the best of motives."Dr Adrian Needs is a forensic psychologist based at the University of Portsmouth. Prior to this, he spent 14 years working in HM Prison Service, rising to the rank of Principal Psychologist, working in high security prisons such as Wakefield, Full Sutton, and Hull Special Unit. Having spent many hours interviewing notorious paedophiles and killers, Adrian can delve into the darkest parts of criminal minds.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"On the other side of that narrow wooden door was a viper's nest of depravity."Dr Eric Cullen is a clinical forensic psychologist who has spent much of his working life in prisons throughout the UK, including HM Prison Grendon, the therapeutic prison. Dr Cullen brings his expertise with dangerous offenders to the fore, and analyses what key areas of their lives cause our serial killers to commit murder. Here, Dr Cullen discusses Rose West.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.