Etan Frankel on creating the world of “Joe vs. Carole” | 13

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Joe VS Carol has moved. You can biunge all six episodes ad-free right now by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app: https://wondery.com/links/joe-exotic/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with Etan Frankel, the Executive Producer, showrunner, and writer, tasked with adapting “Joe vs. Carole” for the screen. The pair talk about class dynamics, what Gossip Girl, Friday Night Lights and Shameless have in common with Joe Exotic and how brie and champagne drew Etan to Carole Baskin. “Joe vs. Carole” the TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body is now out on Peacock.Please support us by supporting our sponsors!Binge all episodes of Joe vs Carole exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/joe-exotic/ now. Watch the television series based on the podcast 'Joe vs. Carole' now streaming on Peacock: smarturl.it/Joe_vs_Carole.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with actor Kate McKinnon about what drew her to the role of Carole Baskin. The two discuss how she found humor in such a dark story and what makes a cat person a cat person. "Joe vs. Carole” the TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body is now out on Peacock.Binge all episodes of Joe vs Carole exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/joe-exotic/ now. Watch the television series based on the podcast 'Joe vs. Carole' now streaming on Peacock: smarturl.it/Joe_vs_Carole.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with actor John Cameron Mitchell about what it was like to step into Joe Exotic’s cowboy boots for “Joe vs. Carole”. The two discuss the effects of Tiger King mania, how Mitchell nailed the Joe Exotic accent and how a pair of ass-less chaps may just have won him the role. The TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body premieres on Peacock March 3rd.Binge all episodes of Joe vs Carole exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/joe-exotic/ now. Watch the television series based on the podcast 'Joe vs. Carole' now streaming on Peacock: smarturl.it/Joe_vs_Carole.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Joe Exotic throws a most unusual wedding that includes monkeys, lions, tigers, and bears. But someone is killing his animals, and he is determined to put an end to it. The first episode in our six part series about two people who love big cats, but who despise each other.A listener note: this episode contains descriptions of mistreatment of animals.Binge all episodes of Joe vs Carole exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/joe-exotic/ now. Watch the television series based on the podcast 'Joe vs. Carole' now streaming on Peacock: smarturl.it/Joe_vs_Carole.Support us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We all have limits. And some people who are pushed beyond those limits will do unspeakable things. From Wondery, "Joe vs. Carole" is the story of a man who has devoted his life to raising and breeding lions, tigers, and other exotic animals at his Oklahoma zoo. He croons ballads, shoots guns, and puts it all on YouTube. But throughout his career, he's made a lot of enemies. And the biggest of all is the owner of a big cat sanctuary in Florida named Carole Baskin. The feud between Joe Exotic and Carole gets messy, vicious, and outrageous -- until both of them are pushed far beyond their limits. Reported and hosted by Rob Moor.All episodes of Joe vs. Carole are available now. You can binge the series exclusively, and ad-free, on Wondery+ or on Amazon Music with a Prime membership or Amazon Music Unlimited subscription. Join Wondery+ here: https://wondery.app.link/joeexoticSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.