CZM Book Club: Hermetica, by Alan Lea, Part Seven

Robert and Garrison discuss the memes, disinformation, and conflicting theories surrounding the political orientation of the Charlie Kirk assassin. Groyper? Antifa? Or just Reddit? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret brings you the conclusion of the tale of Hermetica.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  - It Was Never About Crime feat. Prop - Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals - ICE Partners with Israeli Phone Hacking Spyware - Recognizing Palestine as a State: Meaningful Farce feat. Dana El Kurd - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #33 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone  Sources/Links: It Was Never About Crime feat. Prop https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10567-025-00534-6#Sec9  https://www.thebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/baltimore-homicides-drop-WTR3QQN7LRGFXOVCGAAMNYMUBE/  https://theconversation.com/data-driven-early-intervention-strategies-could-revolutionize-phillys-approach-to-crime-prevention-258756 https://genius.com/Freeway-what-we-do-lyrics https://www.baltimorepolice.org/about/baltimore-police-crime-plan https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/16/baltimore-violent-crime-trump Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16 https://archive.vn/zgPJ8 https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/ https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19 https://www.theargumentmag.com/about https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/ https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/ https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/ https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure ICE Partners with Israeli Phone Hacking Spyware https://ssd.eff.org/  https://citizenlab.ca/2025/03/a-first-look-at-paragons-proliferating-spyware-operations/  https://citizenlab.ca/2025/06/first-forensic-confirmation-of-paragons-ios-mercenary-spyware-finds-journalists-targeted/  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigration-ice-israeli-spyware https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/exclusive-ice-has-reactivated-its  https://www.wired.com/story/ice-paragon-solutions-contract/ https://dfrlab.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/09/Mythical-Beasts.pdf https://finder.startupnationcentral.org/company_page/paragon https://red-dot.capital/portfolio https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/07/29/paragon-is-an-nso-competitor-and-an-american-funded-israeli-surveillance-startup-that-hacks-encrypted-apps-like-whatsapp-and-signal/ https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-14093-prohibition-use-the-united-states-government-commercial-spyware-that https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/09/eff-statement-ice-use-paragon-solutions-malware Recognizing Palestine as a State: Meaningful Farce feat. Dana El Kurd Noura Erekat and Shahd Hammouri in Jadaliyya - https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/46838 Paul Poast in World Politics Review - https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/palestine-state-recognition-france/ NPR report - https://www.npr.org/2025/08/01/nx-s1-5485359/france-uk-palestine-state-explainer European Society of International Law on occupation - https://esil-sedi.eu/prolonged-occupation-or-illegal-occupant/#:~:text=The%20occupying%20power%2C%20throughout%20the,consistent%20with%20its%20trustee%20responsibilities. Daniel Kurtzer on the Oslo Accords - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/20/magazine/israel-gaza-oslo-accords.html Hanan Ashrawi on the Oslo Accords - https://www.972mag.com/hanan-ashrawi-oslo-accords/ Polling of Palestinians May 2025 - https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2095%20press%20release%206May2025%20ENGLISH.pdf Dana El Kurd and Pablo Abufom for The Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/08/palestinians-leader-mahmoud-abbas-president Tanja Aalberts on sovereignty - Constructing Sovereignty between Politics and Law - 1st Edition - Tanj Jared Kushner “Peace to Prosperity” plan - trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Peace-to-Prosperity-0120.pdf Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #33 https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/422/873/ https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/customs-and-border-protection-settles-federal-lawsuit-american-citizens-racially https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/l.g.m.l.-v.-noem--a-hearing-diary ttps://qz.com/higher-investment-means-hyundai-could-get-2-1-billion-1850832920 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/hyundai-factory-ice-raid-legal-visa https://www.wired.com/story/far-right-reactions-charlie-kirk-shooting-civil-war/ https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-shooting-news https://x.com/mkraju/status/1965108206969241953 https://x.com/TheJusticeDept/status/1963635111112446449 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-considering-banning-trans-people-buying-guns-us-media-2025-09-04/ https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/transgender-firearms-justice-department-second-amendment  https://archive.ph/kI2Uo https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/rfk-jr-hhs-to-link-autism-to-tylenol-use-in-pregnancy-and-folate-deficiencies-e3acbb4c  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yok1fhPICAYSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The gang discuss the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the Epstein birthday book, an ICE raid of a Hyundai plant in Georgia, the DOJ's consideration of a trans gun ban, and an update on the Cop City RICO case. Fundraiser: https://gofund.me/da39f7d0b Sources: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/422/873/ https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/customs-and-border-protection-settles-federal-lawsuit-american-citizens-racially https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/l.g.m.l.-v.-noem--a-hearing-diary ttps://qz.com/higher-investment-means-hyundai-could-get-2-1-billion-1850832920 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/hyundai-factory-ice-raid-legal-visa https://www.wired.com/story/far-right-reactions-charlie-kirk-shooting-civil-war/ https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-shooting-news https://x.com/mkraju/status/1965108206969241953 https://x.com/TheJusticeDept/status/1963635111112446449 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-considering-banning-trans-people-buying-guns-us-media-2025-09-04/ https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/transgender-firearms-justice-department-second-amendment  https://archive.ph/kI2Uo https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/rfk-jr-hhs-to-link-autism-to-tylenol-use-in-pregnancy-and-folate-deficiencies-e3acbb4c  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yok1fhPICAYSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dana El Kurd talks about the recent declarations by France, the UK, Canada, and others to recognize Palestine as a state. She discusses what this means, how these declarations are not tied to Palestinians exercising sovereignty, and what Palestinians actually want. Sources: Noura Erekat and Shahd Hammouri in Jadaliyya - https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/46838 Paul Poast in World Politics Review - https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/palestine-state-recognition-france/ NPR report - https://www.npr.org/2025/08/01/nx-s1-5485359/france-uk-palestine-state-explainer European Society of International Law on occupation - https://esil-sedi.eu/prolonged-occupation-or-illegal-occupant/#:~:text=The%20occupying%20power%2C%20throughout%20the,consistent%20with%20its%20trustee%20responsibilities. Daniel Kurtzer on the Oslo Accords - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/20/magazine/israel-gaza-oslo-accords.html Hanan Ashrawi on the Oslo Accords - https://www.972mag.com/hanan-ashrawi-oslo-accords/ Polling of Palestinians May 2025 - https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2095%20press%20release%206May2025%20ENGLISH.pdf Dana El Kurd and Pablo Abufom for The Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/08/palestinians-leader-mahmoud-abbas-president Tanja Aalberts on sovereignty - Constructing Sovereignty between Politics and Law - 1st Edition - Tanj Jared Kushner “Peace to Prosperity” plan - trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Peace-to-Prosperity-0120.pdfSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Garrison talks with Cooper Quentin from the Electronic Frontier Foundation about Paragon’s spyware Graphite, how it reads text messages, who is most at risk, and misinformation exaggerating the spyware's known capabilities. Sources: https://ssd.eff.org/  https://citizenlab.ca/2025/03/a-first-look-at-paragons-proliferating-spyware-operations/  https://citizenlab.ca/2025/06/first-forensic-confirmation-of-paragons-ios-mercenary-spyware-finds-journalists-targeted/  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-immigration-ice-israeli-spyware https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/exclusive-ice-has-reactivated-its  https://www.wired.com/story/ice-paragon-solutions-contract/ https://dfrlab.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/09/Mythical-Beasts.pdf https://finder.startupnationcentral.org/company_page/paragon https://red-dot.capital/portfolio https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/07/29/paragon-is-an-nso-competitor-and-an-american-funded-israeli-surveillance-startup-that-hacks-encrypted-apps-like-whatsapp-and-signal/ https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-14093-prohibition-use-the-united-states-government-commercial-spyware-that https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/09/eff-statement-ice-use-paragon-solutions-malwareSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers. Sources: https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16 https://archive.vn/zgPJ8 https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/ https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19 https://www.theargumentmag.com/about https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/ https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/ https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/ https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructureSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Okay, with all this talk about deploying troops in our cities, especially DC, it's very clear to me that that “crime” is just a means to remove black, brown, poor and unhoused people from your city. Because if you really cared about crime, there are proven interventions that actually work to reduce crime… and it happens to be Black mayors puttin' in the work. Sources: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10567-025-00534-6#Sec9  https://www.thebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/baltimore-homicides-drop-WTR3QQN7LRGFXOVCGAAMNYMUBE/  https://theconversation.com/data-driven-early-intervention-strategies-could-revolutionize-phillys-approach-to-crime-prevention-258756 https://genius.com/Freeway-what-we-do-lyrics https://www.baltimorepolice.org/about/baltimore-police-crime-plan https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/16/baltimore-violent-crime-trumpSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues with tale of Hermetica, the generation ship.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  - BlueAnon: Assassination False Flag and Liberal Election Denial - BlueAnon: Alt National Park Service - Chicago Prepares for Occupation - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #32 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone  Sources/Links: BlueAnon: Assassination False Flag and Liberal Election Denial https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/nov/07/threads-posts/no-20-million-democratic-votes-didnt-disappear-and/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/08/04/harris-nsa-audit-2024-election/ https://www.wired.com/story/election-denial-conspiracy-theories-x-left-blueanon/  https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-accept-election-results-even-if-some-are-unhappy-outcome https://www.reddit.com/r/houstonwade/comments/1gnwsv0/they_cheated/ https://theplotagainstamerica.com/ https://www.cip.uw.edu/2024/11/18/conspiracy-theory-starlink-election-results/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/nov/12/threads-posts/no-elon-musks-starlink-wasnt-used-to-rig-the-2024/ https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/trump_assassination_attempt_online_conspiracy_theories_musk.php  https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/trump-assassination-attempt-polling  BlueAnon: Alt National Park Service https://jjoycelynch.substack.com/  https://bsky.app/profile/altwatcher.bsky.social Chicago Prepares for Occupation https://bsky.app/profile/unraveledpress.com https://unraveledpress.com/support-unraveled/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pritzker-deeply-concerned-ice-targeting-chicagos-mexican-independence-rcna228752 Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #32  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.