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This episode is all about my experience in the messy middle—what it felt like when I was deep in the dip, why it was so hard to keep going, and what helped me not walk away when everything felt like a mess. I open up about the grip of impostor syndrome, how clapping back at my inner lizard brain (aka Bernard) gave me a little space to breathe, and the ongoing tug-of-war between wanting to grow and wanting to quit. I share moments from biking through the Swiss Alps, hiking a 14er, and facing the sting of someone challenging the work my team had poured our hearts into—because whether it’s a mountain or a meeting, the J-Curve shows up everywhere. And sometimes, the mess is the lesson.
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