“Demise of the stovetop”

Mark and Rob are back with another packed episode of Eight or Sixteen! This week, they dive into the best (and weirdest) tech from CES 2025, including Lenovo’s rollable laptops, and a robot vacuum with an Inspector Gadget arm. Mark shares his “Best in Show” highlights, Rob talks WiFi 7 and heated seats, and a bizarre electric salt spoon you didn’t know you needed. Links Hotdog vs Chicken: https://bigpotato.co.uk/products/chicken-vs-hotdog?variant=43051952210171 Withings Omnia: https://www.withings.com/uk/en/landing/omnia Saros Z70 robot vacuum with an Inspector Gadget arm: https://global.roborock.com/pages/roborock-saros-z70 Latest effort from Amagami Ham Ham creators Mirumi: https://www.ux-xu.com/news/ces2025_1 Also Nékojita FuFu: https://www.ux-xu.com/news/ces2025_2 Electric Salt Spoon: https://www.kirinholdings.com/en/newsroom/release/2024/0520_01.html LG 45” 2160P 21:9 Ultrawide display: https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/gaming/45gr95qe-b/ Jeff Beck guitar auction viewings until 22nd January (scroll down for the virtual tour): https://www.christies.com/en/events/jeff-beck-the-guitar-collection/what-is-on#exhibition Razer Project Arielle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8grHBWtgjDQ M4 Mac mini CNC aluminium case: https://zeerawireless.com/products/zeera-macforge-gen2-cnc-aluminum-case-for-2024-mac-mini-m4 MacPaw Eney AI automation a la what Rabbit said they could do, but for Mac (and might actually work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWmvO25o6pw Web-based Eney simulation: https://macpaw.com/eney-waiting-list ShiftCam Planck 2TB external SSD: https://prelaunch.com/projects/planck-ssd-powerful-storage-hidden-in-your-palm-planck-ssd-powerful-storage-hidden-in-your-palm DJI Flip drone: https://www.dji.com/uk/flip Nintendo Lego Gameboy troll announcement: https://x.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1877400996462166302 Nintendo Switch 2 trailer launched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ InCase “Designed by Microsoft” collection: https://www.incase.com/collections/productivity-accessories Klack mechanical keyboard simulator app: https://tryklack.com   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected].   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com  

In this episode, Mark and Rob reflect on an eventful 2024, covering everything from travel highlights and their favourite tech purchases to the biggest disappointments of the year. Rob shares his hands-on experience with OneUI 7 Beta, Samsung’s latest innovations, and his new tech toys, while Mark looks back on standout reviews and missed opportunities. Plus, a look ahead at what 2025 might bring, including Apple’s rumored HomePod with a display, Nintendo’s Switch 2, and Samsung’s S25 Ultra. Links BookCase by Astropad: https://geni.us/bdfZ Google/Samsung XR headset - basically Android Vision Pro: https://geni.us/0GRPiR ResMed $120 Vision Pro Kontor strap with counterweights: https://geni.us/vhV9 Flow Launcher (basically Raycast for Windows): https://geni.us/x3Sj Official Raycast for Windows waitlist: https://geni.us/THo236T Festivitas app - Christmasify your Mac: https://geni.us/hRS16r If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected]. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

Join Mark and Rob for another episode of the Eight or Sixteen podcast and more tech ramblings. From starting to talk about Christmas decorations, to an interesting song about a duck and some grapes, just your typical Eight or Sixteen podcast! And a personal apologies from Niall to Andy McBain, for the incorrect scheduling.... ➡️ Ghost newsletter/publishing platform: https://geni.us/FZtkm8 ➡️ Aqara U200 Smart Lock https://geni.us/TcNIK ➡️ Govee Christmas Tree Lights: https://geni.us/e7fZY ➡️ Aqara FP2 presence sensors: https://geni.us/j0PFw ➡️ Philips Sonicare 9900 toothbrush with USB-C charging case: https://geni.us/kXJyBWH ➡️ Suri alternative toothbrush: https://geni.us/35D0qUP ➡️ Smart water bottle: https://geni.us/7DqK9 ➡️ Upright Posture gadget: https://geni.us/bYVBD ➡️ Withings U-Scan wee analyser: https://geni.us/pb4HR ➡️ iCloud passwords extension for Firefox: https://geni.us/wjzxQ3 ➡️ Wallace and Gromit video shot on iPhone and projected 300-foot high onto Battersea Power Station: https://geni.us/2j3hk ➡️ Apple Christmas Advert: https://geni.us/lXv8E ➡️ M4 Mac mini so small you can fit it in the base of a G4 iMac, as Chance Miller of 9to5Mac has done: https://geni.us/CAILA ➡️ Satechi M4 Mac mini dock: https://geni.us/je6y ➡️ M4 Mac mini adornments: https://geni.us/FO3Mj ➡️ M4 Mac mini Power Mac G3 case: https://geni.us/pOwQ ➡️ Christian Selig’s M4 Mac mini-shaped desk ornaments: https://geni.us/TrH4E5 ➡️ Microsoft Windows 365 Link thin client for their Cloud PC service: https://geni.us/IAzsIc3 ➡️ Put Windows on your face: https://geni.us/cGvy ➡️ This Is An Xbox campaign: https://geni.us/7SJRKbA ➡️ One UI 7 beta started rolling out today: https://geni.us/L4JJjm ➡️ The Verge subscription - $7 a month or $50 a year: https://geni.us/njr2vai ➡️ Delicious Library: https://geni.us/aklsT ➡️ TinyPod: https://geni.us/XszRc ➡️ Astropod BookCase: https://geni.us/C9RqKf4 ➡️ Free alternative for Bartender macOS app: https://geni.us/AZWhZcc ➡️ EE’s WiFi 7 offering - included in 1.6Gb/s plan, or £10 a month on lower tiers: https://geni.us/t4By ➡️ The Duck Song: https://geni.us/JwFKcun ➡️ The Duck Song official plush you can’t buy (but there are knockoffs on eBay): https://geni.us/oo7SbCR   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected]. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

In this episode Mark and Rob dive into the power-packed M4 Mac mini, questioning whether its upgrades are worth the price, and the surprising 3D-printed Mac Pro case that’s making waves. They explore the Oppo Find X8 Pro, growing BlueSky exodus numbers, and why AppleCare+ refunds are suddenly popping up. Plus, Rob’s accidental car purchase, frustration with smart locks, and the return of a quirky Casio gadget!  Links ➡️ 3D Printed Mac Pro case for M4 Mac mini: https://geni.us/BK2qETK ➡️ Jeff Beck guitar auction: https://geni.us/SIzmBA ➡️ Spatialify app to convert iPhone Spatial Videos for playback on Meta Quest: https://geni.us/xP1EM4Z ➡️ Pixelmator bought by Apple: https://geni.us/3ce9V ➡️ Croissant app - crosspost to Threads, Mastodon, Bluesky: https://geni.us/eDqgAve ➡️ Aqara U200 Smart Lock with HomeKey support that fits UK doors: https://geni.us/MlCOI ➡️ Nuki Ultra smart lock just announced - but no HomeKey support: https://geni.us/Zclwann ➡️ Apparently the TinyPod is rubbish according to two-dimensional David on YouTube: https://geni.us/hpwiPTv ➡️ TinyPod: https://geni.us/0jpqdS1 ➡️ Whack a tiny Casio Digital Watch on your finger - Casio Smart Ring: https://geni.us/0TkSI ➡️ Or get a massive one: https://geni.us/sp7se   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected]. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com.

Join Rob and Mark for more tech waffling and meandering down limitless cultural cul-de-sacs! If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected]. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

In this episode, Mark and Rob dive into the latest Apple M4 benchmarks leak, comparing it to the infamous iPhone 4 incident, and explore what surprises we might see at the upcoming Apple October event. They also discuss the Meta Quest 3S and how it stacks up against its competition, alongside the newest developments in VR and AR, including Meta’s Orion project. Make sure to watch until the end so you don't miss out on a quirky little Nintendo Alarm Clock!   ➡️ Meta Quest 3S: https://geni.us/LbbvX ➡️ Wordle VR for Quest: https://geni.us/7YWYo ➡️ Meta Orion Augmented Reality Glasses: https://geni.us/AQfrq ➡️ Fifth Generation Snap Spectacles with AR: https://geni.us/dm9jGW ➡️ Pico 4 Ultra VR/MR alternative to Quest: https://geni.us/5KqHd ➡️ Trailer for “Submerged” – Apple’s first Immersive Video short film for Vision Pro: https://geni.us/NgaXmr ➡️ Severance returns to Apple TV+ 17th January 2025: https://geni.us/Ajmn ➡️ Apple TV+ and Amazon Prime Video deal: https://geni.us/S8xAke ➡️ NothingOS 3: https://geni.us/iMBMAX ➡️ Nothing Ear (Open): https://geni.us/cSOAr ➡️ Samsung Developer Conference – OneUI 7: https://geni.us/WQkeR3C ➡️ Honor Magic V3 foldable: https://geni.us/jAeBKX ➡️ Honor Magic Pen: https://geni.us/UjWx ➡️ Bonkers Honor 100W wireless charger: https://geni.us/Y648a ➡️ Nintendo Alarm Clock – Alarmo: https://geni.us/WToEBwT ➡️ Clock-sized Casio retro A158W watch: https://geni.us/lAM72jx   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected].   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

In this episode, Mark and Rob dive into Apple’s latest reveals, from the new iPhone 16 line up (the good and the bad), to the AirPods 4 and Apple Watch Series 10. Are any of Apple latest launches really worth it?   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected].   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

In this episode, Mark is back from his travels and shares insights from IFA and a Huawei or Honor event. Rob discusses his recent tech purchases, including the delayed Magic V3. The guys also dive into Apple's recent iPhone event and they guys discuss the return of a fan favourite app coming next year...   Links - Honor Magic V3 bendyphone launched:     - https://www.honor.com/uk/phones/honor-magic-v3/ - HUAWEI Mate XT triple bendy phone launched:     - https://consumer.huawei.com/cn/phones/mate-xt-ultimate-design/ - Otterbox case for iPhone 16 with comedy Camera Control cutout:     - https://www.otterbox.co.uk/en-gb/iphone-16-pro-max-case-grey/77-96134.html - New Beats iPhone cases:     - https://www.beatsbydre.com/uk/accessories/phone-cases/beats-iphone-16-plus-magsafe-case/MCFJ4/iphone16-riptideblue - B&O H100 - £1,299 headphones!!     - https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/gb/headphones/beoplay-h100 - DJI Neo - compact, affordable drone that can take off and land from your palm, and follow you about without the need for a remote:     - https://www.dji.com/uk/neo - Probably better than the Hover X1 by Zero that was all the rage last year:     - https://us.hoverair.com/products/hoverair-x1-self-flying-camera-combo - WhatsApp turning into Beeper:     - https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/an-update-on-how-were-building-safe-and-secure-third-party-chats-for-users-in-europe/ - New Reeder “universal timeline” app, similar to Tapestry:     - https://reederapp.com - Tapestry by The Iconfactory:     - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iconfactory/project-tapestry - Polycam 3D scanner app for iPhone Pro and Android users with LiDAR-equipped devices:     - https://poly.cam - Flappy Bird is coming back to iPhone after a 10 year hiatus:     - https://flappybird.org If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected] Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

In this episode, Mark dives into his latest tech adventures, including a hands-on with the Galaxy Watch Ultra and the Surface Laptop 7. Rob shares the mishaps of a blown TV and his holiday in the Peak District, where he tested some new Insta360 gear. Plus, they discuss the latest Google controversy and Apple rumours, including the potential of an Apple TV-sized Mac mini and what’s next for the iPhone 16…     Links ➡️ Mark’s Surface Laptop 7 review: https://geni.us/sBLF ➡️ Mark’s comedically big TCL 98” C805K Mini LED TV video: https://geni.us/WqQz 55” LG B4 OLED TV with Dolby Vision at Costco (sadly the price has gone up to £849 since this show was recorded): https://geni.us/FP24a43 ➡️ SnapGrip MagSafe battery pack/physical shutter button: https://geni.us/CEaAHY ➡️ MagBak MagSafe cases and accessories: https://geni.us/DRvrOn ➡️ WALLFID MagSafe wallet with elasticated sides that accommodates a Samsung portable SSD: https://geni.us/5RkS ➡️ Short USB-C cable with 90-degree end: https://geni.us/t2wA2Ab ➡️ Native Union Stow sleeve for iPad/Magic Keyboard: https://geni.us/gJxSPi ➡️ SODI MagSafe Continuity Camera monitor mount/stand: https://geni.us/vy9p1 ➡️ Belkin Auto-Tracking 360 degree pan, 90 degree tilt DockKit stand: https://geni.us/ZDMirQC ➡️ Insta360 Flow Pro DockKit compatible gimbal: https://geni.us/RHTBgTw ➡️ Halide camera app with true RAW mode: https://geni.us/2x4viUq ➡️ First HomeKey compatible Smart Lock that works with eurocylinder - Aqara U200: https://geni.us/B7OGt ➡️ Aqara FP2 Presence Sensor: https://geni.us/4G0PR ➡️ SwitchBot Universal Remote: https://geni.us/gYXtZdE ➡️ Nest thermostat 4th gen: https://geni.us/x2w4erf ➡️ CMF by Nothing Phone 1: https://geni.us/KHeK ➡️ Playdate pizza box case: https://geni.us/OfVa If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected] Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

In this episode, Mark covers his recent trip to the OnePlus event in Milan, showcasing the Nord 4 and CMF products. Rob and Mark discuss Samsung's Galaxy Unpacked, including the Fold6 and Flip6, and the Nokia 3210 reboot. They also touch on Apple rumours and new public betas. There is also talks of the Xiaomi 14 Ultra Photography Kit and speculations about the Apple Watch X...   Links ➡️ OnePlus Nord 4: https://geni.us/JPYOuXi  ➡️ CMF Phone 1: https://geni.us/1T4xj7N  ➡️ CMF Buds Pro 2: https://geni.us/LAuzUtA  ➡️ CMF Watch Pro 2: https://geni.us/WzCOBe8  ➡️ Honor Magic V3 - register for a chance to try one out for a month: https://geni.us/f4lgzO  ➡️ Dyson OnTrac Headphones with collapsible case: https://geni.us/lEZe3  ➡️ Cambridge Audio P100 with Matt Berry as the built-in voiceover: https://geni.us/IMYQ ➡️ Matt Berry: https://geni.us/dMow3Xb ➡️ Mark Ellis Creator Diary channel: https://geni.us/t19dUvk  ➡️ SnapGrip MagSafe camera/battery case: https://geni.us/vaWqO  ➡️ Nokia Lumia 1020 camera grip throwback: https://geni.us/Vlbj9  ➡️ Xiaomi 14 Ultra Photography Kit: https://geni.us/ZlrtL3D  ➡️ Nokia 3210 Reboot: https://geni.us/2cNLHCT  ➡️ HMD Skyline Nokia Lumia-esque phone: https://geni.us/SNc7w  ➡️ Square Home Launcher - Windows Phone UI for Android: https://geni.us/GAaPj  ➡️ Launcher10 - an alternative Windows Phone launcher option for Android: https://geni.us/gnAkL  ➡️ Tinypod - turn your old Apple Watch into a tiny iPod: https://geni.us/NegQMgf  ➡️ Cake - turn your old Apple Watch into a tiny Rabbit R1: https://geni.us/wxxEHtd     If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at [email protected] Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com