How to Grow a Practice Without Losing Yourself with Dr. Kristen Wynns - Group Practice (R)evolution

What if the biggest problem in therapy is therapists who haven't done their own work? Jamie Marich explores recovery, spirituality beyond religion, and why no modality, guru, or system can replace embodied healing. I love show-and-tell as a teaching method, especially because it emphasizes the importance of therapists doing their own work. Dr. Jamie Marich is the perfect participant. They have a substantial catalog of "personal artifacts" to share: growing up inside evangelical Christian nationalism recovery from addiction and participation in AA processing their queerness in an unsafe environment reconnecting to their spirituality beyond organized religion  These mementos highlight Jamie's rebel journey back to wholeness and a spiritually fulfilling relationship with God, free from rigid dogma. This conversation challenges therapists to do their own work, move beyond rigid systems, and rediscover wholeness as something already within us—not something we earn. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Frank Gruba-McCallister on why therapy is political, compassion is nonnegotiable, and healing must include social change. If I had to choose one episode to light my way through the collapse of capitalism, it would be this conversation with Frank Gruba-McCallister. Truth is, there's no escaping the darkness of our current timeline. That said, there are dozens of reasons to remain hopeful, and thousands of people (like Frank) fanning the flames of optimism. There's also hella work to do individually and collectively.  The end of capitalism will come whether we act or not. Frank offers several tips to therapists who want to operationalize hope and shape a more equitable future:   Embody your values - "Not everyone who is awake stays awake." Our inner work is the journey, not the destination. Remain open or awake to new ways of thinking and be transparent about what has shifted for you. Make space for spiritual wisdom - "How can you be whole, which is what health is, by omitting what is the most essential aspect of who you are?" Don't mistake your antipathy for organized religion as rejection of your spiritual curiosity Mindfully engage with liberatory psychology - "We have to empower people to challenge economic and political systems. But that doesn't negate the importance of them doing work with respect to their own development and growth." Ditto for therapists! "There's a way of coming out of this that brings you to a better place," observes Frank. If he can remain hopeful, then so can you and I. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

How Kristen Wynns built an award-winning practice without insurance dependence and with a good dose of humor. Group practice owners have a decision to make right now: continue treading water or get more creative in how they operate. The field of therapy is lucky to have many examples of group practice owners who embody innovative leadership. One of those is my "conference bestie", Dr. Kristen Wynns, author, speaker, and founder of Wynns Family Psychology.  Three things practice owners take away from this conversation: You're the owner, not the micromanager. How you delegate tasks, build team confidence, and accept feedback is what either inspires or discourages your team. Fiascos often lead to fresh starts. Humans are terrified of making changes, but sometimes you've just got to take advantage of a surprise reset, even if you don't think you're ready. Times change. So must your practice. New tech! New employees! New competition! Build in time for periodic recalibration. GUEST BIO Dr. Kristen Wynns is a psychologist, author, comedian, and speaker who blends mental health expertise with humor. As founder of Wynns Family Psychology, an award-winning private practice with four locations in NC, and "Kiki" on stage, she empowers others to use laughter for healing, confidence, and connection. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Visit: https://tinyurl.com/GPRPodcast and click on "have a coupon" and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year!  Or join our 2026 Authentic Leaders Group and get 1 year of GP(R) membership for FREE! Next Authentic Leaders Group cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Are therapists ready for the next era of healing? Dr. Caroline Fernandes on complex trauma, mediumship, and what the therapy field has to learn from the spirit world. I'm spinning all the hits on this episode: grief, ghosts, and the energetic shifts that happen when we incorporate the spiritual into processing personal, cultural, or systemic wounds. That's little "s" spirituality, not the patriarchal-sponsored kind. The addition of spirituality is important in light of my conversation with Dr. Caroline Fernandes. She's a holistic psychotherapist specializing in complex trauma, relational wounds, and spiritually transformative experiences. Caroline is also a Reiki master and a psychic medium with 25 years' experience. She integrates psychology with energetic work, creating an environment where clients can explore a more mystical side of healing alongside the corporeal. GUEST BIO Dr. Caroline Fernandes is a holistic psychotherapist specializing in complex trauma, relational wounds, and spiritually transformative experiences. She integrates mind-body-spirit practices with evidence-based modalities including EMDR, CBT, DBT, and somatic approaches. Her work supports deep processing, nervous system regulation, meaning-making, and sustainable healing across life transitions and identity development. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

In this special 9th birthday episode of Conversations With a Wounded Healer, Sarah Buino and Lane Essex explore healing at every level—from individual mental health to group practice dynamics and systemic transformations in the therapy field.  What does it mean to sustain a therapy career in these challenging times, while embracing authentic and clinical leadership approaches that foster collective healing and healthy organizations? This episode offers insight for therapists interested in evolving their practice and creating meaningful change within mental healthcare systems. Learn how therapists can stay alive and responsive to whatever comes up in the field, supporting both their clients and themselves with resilience and compassion. *** Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. UPCOMING EVENTS Check the calendar for opportunities to connect with Sarah and earn CEs. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

A funeral director turned therapist on meaning-making, unfinished business, and why grief needs more truth and less cheerleading. Ready for a life-affirming episode about death? I'm excited to introduce you to my longtime friend Rachel Hauck. She's a funeral director and embalmer. After 20 years in business, she's decided to go back to school to become a therapist. I love chatting with people who are in midlife career shifts. Why did she make the switch? How will her previous career shape her identity as a therapist?  What sets this conversation apart from the hushed, almost embarrassed way folks often talk about death is our openness around its emotional messiness. We go beyond Kübler-Ross's model to consider those carrying complex or "untraditional" feelings of grief (think: Jeanette McCurdy). All experiences are welcome here.  GUEST BIO Rachel Hauck (she/her) has served families as a licensed funeral director/embalmer in the state of Florida for the last 20 years.  She is currently completing a master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling at Nova Southeastern University and hopes to develop a signature program in prolonged grief therapy.  Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy  

When the world is burning, old business paradigms collapse—here's what replaces them. Self-assessment time. For group practice owners: Do your internal systems align with the company's client-facing messaging? For group practice employees: Is fear (of failure, of retaliation) holding you back from calling out harmful behaviors or leaving altogether?  Alicia Murray, LMHCD, is the creator of Therapist HQ, a digital platform for therapists ready to transition into entrepreneurship. I invited Alicia to discuss how group practice employees can protect themselves against extractive policies and how group practice owners can revamp their misaligned structures.   GUEST BIO Alicia Murray, LMHCD, based out of Syracuse, NY, is a group practice owner and consultant for therapists going into private practice. In-between sessions, you can find her binging TLC shows, spending time with her husband and two young children, or hitting up her favorite coffee shops and ice cream stands. Free resources for therapists are available here. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Visit: https://tinyurl.com/GPRPodcast and click on "have a coupon" and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year!  Or join our 2026 Authentic Leaders Group and get 1 year of GP(R) membership for FREE! Next Authentic Leaders Group cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy    

Trauma-informed leadership, psychological safety, and accountability in group practice culture. The TL;DR takeaway from today's episode is: to change the systems and institutions harming us, we must commit to the work. All of it, the intra- and interpersonal.  Poonam Natha can help us with this assignment. She views "the work" as a lifelong process of balancing individualism and collectivism rather than choosing one over the other. Poonam's nuanced opinion is rooted in her lived experience as the eldest daughter of immigrant parents and a self-described cycle-breaker. GUEST BIO Poonam Natha, LMFT, is a co-founder of Level Up Leaders Inc. She aims to support group practice owners to cultivate psychological safety values-aligned workplaces by stepping into their authentic leadership with clarity, compassion, and courage. Along with her co-founder, Julianne Guso, their philosophy of trauma-informed leadership begins with honoring your own humanity so you can honor the humanity of your team. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

Shawn Hondorp on creativity, IFS protector parts, and building a practice that actually feels alive. This episode is your practical guide to feeling alive in messy times. But "feeling" is only part of the equation. "Doing" is what drives change. It transforms our private creative practices into a collective, disruptive force.  Shawn Hondorp, PhD., is a maven of creativity and as the creator of The Innovative Therapist podcast and community, she supports therapists and helpers in creating the work that feels fully alive and authentic, blending psychology, creativity, and courageous self-trust. Shawn's deeply personal healing journey continues to shape her professional pursuits. What started as "research" eventually became "me-search" as clinical insights gave way to growing comfort with vulnerability. GUEST BIO Shawn Hondorp, PhD., is a community builder, retreat host, and adventurer who has gradually forged her own path away from an academic career as a board-certified clinical psychologist. As the creator of The Innovative Therapist podcast and community, she helps therapists and helpers create work that feels fully alive and authentic—blending psychology, creativity, and courageous self-trust to inspire more sustainable, joyful ways of living and working. Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Apply now! Thank you to The Therapist Network for sponsoring the show! The Therapist Network is a global community built by and for therapists. You'll find live consult groups, an ever-growing library of workshops and courses, plus a community that really sees you. Sarah's group, Tending to the Wounded Healer, meets every other Monday from 1–2pm CT, and it's a space to explore the intersection of your lived experience and your clinical work. So if you want to feel more supported and less alone, visit TheTherapist.Network—or join Sarah's group directly at tinyurl.com/HealerConsultTTN. SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

From Boomer Hierarchies to Gen Z Autonomy, revolutionary communication insights for owners, managers, and clinicians in group practice. If you're navigating leadership across multiple generations and feeling the strain, this episode is for you. And yes, before you ask, we're talking about generational dynamics without turning this into a "kids these days" rant. Let's get to the heart of what's brewing in group practices right now: intergenerational tension. My guest, Calle Foster, professionals go from quiet contributors to confident, influential, credible leaders. Calle has graciously agreed to be our Millennial and GenZ cipher. They're the groups she coaches most often. GUEST BIO Calle Foster (she/her) spent over a decade in corporate Learning & Development before becoming a speaker and three-time certified leadership coach. She now equips Millennial and Gen Z professionals with the confidence, clarity, and people skills to lead with real impact. Her coaching blends honesty, strategy, and self-awareness to help rising leaders thrive. *** Join the Group Practice (R)evolution! GPR is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. For a limited time, podcast listeners can get a full year of membership for only $19.99 by using the discount code PODCAST.  Visit: https://tinyurl.com/GPRPodcast and click on "have a coupon" and enter PODCAST to enjoy all the perks of Group Practice (R)evolution for a year!  SUPPORT THE SHOW Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch Join our Patreon for gifts & perks Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts *** Let's be friends! You can find me in the following places… Website Facebook @headheartbiztherapy Instagram @headheartbiztherapy Join our Authentic Leaders Group! Next cohort starts May 1, 2026. This is a journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll not only enhance your leadership skills but also forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field. Plus you get 1 year of Group Practice (R)evolution membership free. Apply now!