How to Fix Your Podcast When Numbers Take a Nose Dive

Back in 1980, Robert Palmer was already trying to figure things out with his jam, "I'm Just Looking for Clues." Fast forward to today, and here we are, diving into the murky waters of podcasting where someone is asking why their downloads are nosediving. This isn't just a casual inquiry; it’s a cry for help amidst the chaos of the podcasting world! The Gut Punch of RealityI mean, who hasn’t felt that gut punch when you realize your audience is slipping through your fingers like sand? So what do we do? We go on a hunt for those elusive clues, just like Palmer did, except our clues are more about audience retention than romance. As we dig deeper, we realize that now is NOT the time to pump up promotions. Yeah, you heard me right. If your downloads are dropping like it’s hot, the last thing you wanna do is throw money at ads. It’s like trying to sell a broken car; nobody’s gonna bite. Why Is Your Leaving?Instead, let’s focus on the core issue: why are people bailing? It’s a classic case of ‘fix the holes in your ship before you set sail again.’ Let’s talk about asking your listeners directly: Are we still vibing? Did I lose you at minute 10? You’d be surprised what a simple survey can tell you about your audience’s listening habits. Look at Your Podcast Completion PercentageAnd trust me, if your retention is below 70%, that’s not just a warning sign; it's a full-blown emergency! We also touch on how the podcasting game is a lot like stand-up comedy. You don’t just jump on stage and hope for the best; you gotta test those jokes first! Just like comedians tweak their routines based on audience reactions, we need to refine our content based on listener feedback. If you’re not willing to do the groundwork, you’re basically setting yourself up for a flop. Get The Content Working Before Your PromoteSo, buckle up, because before we throw our next promotion, we need to ensure that what we’re offering is something that listeners actually wanna stick around for. Remember, the key to growth isn’t just about shouting louder; it’s about crafting something worth listening to.Takeaways:In podcasting, if your audience is dropping, it's not the time to promote.You should ask your listeners what they think about your show to get feedback.Tracking listener engagement is super important, and stats can help you understand why they leave.Promoting a podcast with declining numbers is like trying to sell a bad movie; it just doesn't work.Audience feedback is key; knowing where they tune out can help fix your show.You want your completion rate above 70%, but aiming for 80% is the golden ticket.Links referenced in this episode:podcastsconnect.apple.comcreators.spotify.comSchool of PodcastingThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Imagine this: you’ve got a podcast that’s hotter than a summer sidewalk, and then—bam!—you decide to take a little 'me time' and vanish. That’s exactly what happened to our friend from a horror movie review channel. He thought he could whip up a slasher flick and come back to a fanfare. But spoiler alert: he forgot the most important thing—keeping his audience in the loop. Now, he’s got a loyal fanbase that’s gone MIA. Turns out, if you ghost your audience, they might just ghost you right back. Communication is KeyIf you’re not talking to your listeners, they’re not waiting for your return like a kid waits for Christmas. They’re out there finding new shows, and by the time you come back, they might not even remember your name! It’s like when your best friend suddenly stops texting you—it’s not cool, man. Keeping your audience informed about your journey is crucial. If he had shared the behind-the-scenes action of making that movie, his fans would have been eagerly waiting to see it, not just left in the dark wondering where he went. Avoiding Podcast BurnoutWe also tackle the reality of podcasting burnout. It’s real, folks. If you’re trying to squeeze your life into your podcast schedule, you’re just asking for trouble. The trick is to let your podcast fit into your life. With a sprinkle of planning and a dash of strategy, you can keep the content flowing and the audience engaged, avoiding the dreaded ‘abandonment’ label. So, if you’re feeling the weight of the world on your podcasting shoulders, take a breath, reevaluate, and remember: your fans are like friends—don’t leave them hanging!Takeaways:Stopping your podcast doesn't mean your audience will forget you; they might just move on.One of the biggest blunders in podcasting is simply abandoning your show for too long.If your podcast becomes part of someone's routine, they won't easily forget it.Planning ahead is key to avoiding burnout and keeping your podcast consistent and fresh.Taking breaks can lead to losing your audience to other shows, so keep them engaged.Your podcast should fit into your life, not the other way around, or you'll regret it.Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.comThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Let’s get real for a minute. Nothing stings quite like getting left hanging by a podcast guest, right? Guest now shows are frustrating.I heard someone talk about his no-show problem, he tossed out this idea of a $500 cancellation fee. That's not gonna work, folks. Life is unpredictable—people get sick, kids break arms, and sometimes, they just don’t feel like it. Instead of turning into the Podcast Police, we suggested a friendly reminder email on the day of the interview. Make it personal. Because who wants to show up for a chat with someone who just sees them as a dollar sign? Pick Better GuestsThis episode also gets into the value of knowing your audience and picking the right guests. I mean, if you’re getting ghosted left and right, it’s time to take a long, hard look in the mirror. Maybe you’re not asking the right questions, or maybe your guests just don’t see the value in chatting with you. And hey, interviews are great for networking, but they can also lead to a mountain of editing. Is It Time to Go Solo?So, weigh your options. A solo show might save you time and make you the star of the show! Just remember, if someone doesn’t want to be on your podcast, they shouldn’t feel pressured to say yes—because being polite is not an excuse for wasting your time.Takeaways:Scheduling conflicts are inevitable; life happens, so prepare for guest no-shows.Sending a reminder email on the day of the interview can really help confirm attendance.Charging a cancellation fee might not be effective if the guest doesn't care about your show.Building a network is crucial; follow up with guests even after the interview is over.Solo shows can save time and often allow for more creative control than interviews.Guests rarely promote episodes, so don't rely on them to grow your audience.Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.comTidycal (one time fee scheduling tool)This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

I saw on Reddit where someone was potentially making the classic blunder of podcasting: mixing unrelated shows into one feed. You know, like if you went to a restaurant for a burger but ended up with sushi on the same plate. I point out that our buddy Joey has a bi-weekly podcast that covers both video games and TV shows. With a measly two downloads per episode, Joey's mixing it up like a bad cocktail. The main takeaway? Split those shows! Seriously, if someone clicks on a gaming episode expecting a deep dive into Mario Kart, they don’t want to suddenly hear about the latest Netflix binge. We’re all about giving the audience choices here, folks. Keep it simple, keep it focused, and let them pick what they want to listen to. It’s like letting them pick their own adventure instead of forcing them to read the whole book. So, if you’re in this boat, don’t wait for a big audience to fix it. Tweak it now, while the stakes are low. Trust me, you’ll thank yourself later when you’re not scrambling to split your shows down the line. And with the right media host, like Captivate or Transistor, you can have multiple shows without breaking the bank. Why wait until it’s a mess?Takeaways:Don't make the rookie mistake of merging unrelated podcast topics into one show, just don't.Split your podcast episodes into separate feeds to give listeners their power of choice, ya know?Tuning your podcast like a guitar should happen when you have fewer listeners, not a packed house.Using the right media host can save you from the headache of splitting up your shows later on.Links Mentioned:School of PodcastingCaptivateTransistorThis content may contain affiliate links, meaning I earn a small commission if you purchase through these links at no additional cost to you. I only recommend products or services I trust and believe will provide value to you. Thank you for your support!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Hey, it’s Dave Jackson. In this episode, I’m talking directly to those of you who want to start a podcast but feel paralyzed by fear, perfectionism, or that nagging voice telling you you’re not good enough. I share my personal tips for getting your content out of your head and into the world—without letting things like criticism or imperfect editing stop you.I start by reflecting on a post I saw on Reddit, where someone struggled with overthinking, fear of criticism, and worrying about making mistakes. This resonated with me because I've definitely felt the same way. I break down how I personally organize my thoughts: writing a blog post, reading it several times to get the overall message, and then distilling it into bullet points I riff on while recording—just like I’m talking to a friend across the desk.Do People Care About Ums?I address the big question: do people actually care if you ramble, or if your audio isn’t perfect? The truth is, people only care if you waste their time. An “um” here or there isn’t the problem—what matters is not losing their attention or making the show all about you with no lesson or value.It Doesn't Have to Be PerfectI also highlight the importance of starting small and being okay with imperfection. Your first episode won’t be as good as your tenth, and that’s totally normal. Focus on your audience and what they need to hear, rather than dwelling on your own fears. When your need to serve outweighs your fear of looking silly, you'll finally press record and publish.I Have A ColdI even recorded this episode while I had a cold—proof that you don’t have to be perfect to provide value! If you need feedback, consider joining a listener party at the School of Podcasting, where you can get constructive, uplifting advice on your episode before going live.If you want help or someone to listen to your work, visit schoolofpodcasting.com and use the coupon code "listener" for a discount. Thanks for joining me, and remember: don’t let perfectionism keep you from creating a truly great podcast. I’d love to see what happens when we work together.My WorkFlowThis is what works for me.:Write a blog.This helps me figure out what I'm trying to say and how I want people to feel.Read Your blog Three times.This helps you get it into your brain. Not to memorize, but to "get the gist of it." Do not cheat. read the whole thing from top to bottom three times.Boil it down to bullet pointsThis is the map to attempt to keep you on trackPress Record and Talk To Your FriendMuch like a phone call, press record and talk to the invisible person on the other side of your desk and "riff" on your bullet points.EditAnything that went off the rails too much, edit out. That starts with knowing who you are talking to.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

I'm back from Podfest, and today, I want to talk about a strategy that gets way more attention than it needs: When to publish your podcast episodes.Recently, while browsing Reddit, I spotted a question about the best time to post — specifically, whether 5:00 pm is a good time. The person wanted to launch a podcast focused on creepy stories and thought evening uploads would create the right mood. However, most advice online suggested otherwise, which led them to ask if evening uploads are uncommon, and whether others have succeeded with that schedule.The Magic of time ShiftingHere’s what I’ve learned over the years: I personally follow at least 30 podcasts, but only two of them matter to me in terms of their schedule, and that’s because they’re news shows. For those, I want the latest information right away. For everything else, it doesn’t matter when the episode drops. Thanks to apps like Pocket Casts, new episodes go to the top of my list, and I listen whenever I want.That’s one of the biggest perks of podcasting—it’s all about convenience for the listener. Most people aren’t refreshing their phone, waiting for your episode to appear. So you don’t need to obsess over the perfect release time, unless you have a news show or something that’s truly time-sensitive.Going the Extra MileIf you want to do a little extra homework, you could check out podcasts similar to yours. See when they publish, create a spreadsheet to spot days with less competition, and pick a time that works for you. But ultimately, the most important factor is finding a schedule that fits your life and allows you to be consistent.For example, I have one show I catch on Fridays just because that aligns with my grocery shopping routine—but that’s rare for most podcasts I listen to. Unless it’s a news-based format, when you publish has far less impact than you might think.So my advice: Don’t get hung up on the specifics. Pick a time that works for you, stick to it, and focus on delivering great content. Consistency in both schedule and quality matters far more than the exact day or hour you hit publish.Get Your Podcast Questions AnsweredIf you have more questions about podcasting, come join me at schoolofpodcasting.com. We’ve got step-by-step tutorials, an amazing community, and hours of consulting to help you succeed. I’m Dave Jackson, and I’m here to help you on your podcasting journey!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

In this episode, I tackled a common issue solo podcasters face: what do you do when you need to reference a stat, date, or chart on the fly while recording while on a LIVE STREAM? I discussed some typical options: pausing to Google it (which can break your momentum), guessing (and risk sounding uninformed), or flagging it for post-production fixes (which adds editing time).But I pointed out a missed option: coming prepared! If you do your research ahead of time, you can minimize disruptions when recording. However, I know that's not always possible—especially when recording live. For example, on my weekly live show, Ask the Podcast Coach, I answer spontaneous questions from the chat room, so I can't always be ready with every fact.When recording solo and I have a slip-up, I simply pause a few seconds to create a clear space in the audio. That pause makes it easy to spot and edit later. It’s a technique I use on all my solo recordings.For my live show, Ask the Podcast Coach (askthepodcastcoach.com/live), I prepare as much as possible, but also rely on interacting with the chat. If I need to look something up, I'll edit the audio version but leave the video as-is since YouTube doesn't allow file replacement.I also mentioned that preparation helps explain visuals for audio listeners, guiding them through what’s happening on screen. More planning always means less editing afterwards; if you wing it, expect more cleanup.Running a live show is a juggling act—managing the sound, levels, chat room, and next questions. Thankfully, I have a co-host to help. If you're on your own, consider whether going live is the best option given your current workflow.Finally, I shared some advice: practice any new tech or process before going live. Don't try something for the first time in front of an audience!Websites mentioned:Ask the Podcast CoachSchool of PodcastingIf you want help not “wetting your pants” on your first try, check out the School of Podcasting where you get access to me for consulting, a supportive community, and step-by-step courses.Thanks for listening—I'm here to help podcasters succeed!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

In this episode, I reveal the reality that starting a podcast—just like starting something challenging, like football—comes with a few bruises. I share how, no matter what you do, you can’t please everyone, and that's perfectly okay.I recount my own experience growing up, relating how being comfortable with myself, regardless of whether people liked me, set me up to handle audience feedback as a podcaster. I mention how, as a musician and fan, I observed that fans often love a band when they’re small and scrappy but sometimes move on once the band becomes more polished and successful. I explain that podcasting is much the same: as your show grows and improves, you might lose some early fans but connect with new ones too.I tell the story of my friend, Jim Harold, who hosts the Paranormal Podcast. Despite working hard to improve his studio, add video, and upgrade his setup, some listeners complained it looked “too professional,” even though most of us strive to look and sound our best. I also mention the experiences of YouTubers Colin and Samir, who received harsh comments as their show became more successful.Handling FeedbackI reassure you that it’s normal for people to not like changes—or even to just not like you and your show. The key is to remember your target audience; if constructive feedback comes from them and makes sense, it’s worth considering. Otherwise, it’s okay to ignore the noise.I discuss how feedback—from the right people—offers a huge opportunity to improve. But at the same time, any change you make (adding a co-host, new music, more episodes) will always please some and upset others. Most importantly, you’ve got to enjoy making your podcast, because if you don’t, you’ll likely burn out and quit.Thanks for joining me! If you’d like help with your podcasting journey, visit schoolofpodcasting.com/join and use coupon code LISTENR to save on your subscription.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Making your podcast better isn’t just about having the right gear; it’s about engaging your audience right from the start. Think about the great sitcoms we all know and love—Seinfeld, Friends, Cheers. They all had something to grab our attention immediately. It’s like when you tune in to see what hilarious thing Jerry is going to say or how Joey is going to mess up this time. The key takeaway? Hook your listeners before you hit them with the ads.You Monetize an AudienceSure, we all need to make a buck, but drowning your audience in pre-roll ads will probably send them clicking away faster than you can say 'next episode.' Instead, sprinkle in the ads after you've given them a reason to stay. This way, they’re invested enough to endure a few promos. After all, nobody tuned in to hear about a new brand of socks—they came for the laughs or the insights. So, start strong, keep it relevant, and remember: nobody's Joe Rogan, so don’t act like you can throw endless ads at your audience and keep them around. They’ll just take a hard pass and move on to something more entertaining.How Many is Too Many Ads?On the flip side, let’s chat about ads. We all know they’re a necessary evil in the podcasting world, but there’s a fine line between making a living and making your audience feel like they’re watching a commercial marathon.Take a look at the Hallmark Channel—32% of their airtime is ads when I watched one of their Christmas movies.. That’s not just a little excessive; that’s a full-on assault on our patience.Aim for around 10% ad time in your episodes. If you’re doing an hour-long show, 6 to 10 minutes of ads sprinkled throughout isn’t too much to ask. But please, for the love of all that’s holy, don’t start your show with a three-minute ad block. You’ll have listeners fast-forwarding to the good stuff and wondering if they accidentally clicked on a commercial instead of a podcast.Remember, the best way to monetize is to sell your own stuff or create premium content. It’s way easier to get one person to buy a coffee than to chase thousands of downloads.So, to wrap it up, if you want to keep your podcast thriving and your audience engaged, think like a sitcom writer. Get them hooked, keep the ads reasonable, and leverage your unique content to build a loyal audience.I’m Dave Jackson, your podcast consultant, and I’ve been helping podcasters find their voice for over 20 years. Join me at schoolofpodcasting.com to take your show from ‘meh’ to ‘wow’!Links referenced in this episode:profitfromyourpodcast.comschoolofpodcasting.comMentioned in this episode:Want to Podcast But Not Sure Where To Start?I've got you covered with a FREE Podcast Launch Checklist that walks you through the whole process IN THE RIGHT ORDER. Go to www.schoolofpodcasting.com/checklistPodcast Launch ChecklistThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

In today’s episode, I answer the question: “Should I use Substack for my newsletter or something like Kit (formerly Convertkit)?” I explain that Substack is a good fit for people who primarily want to share their thoughts or report news to an audience, especially writers and journalists. You can set a premium price for subscribers, though Substack takes a percentage of your earnings.SubstackSubstack is a newsletter-first publishing platform built around simple creation and monetization of written content. It lets creators publish posts that go both to an email inbox and a web page, with built-in tools for paid subscriptions and community engagement (comments, chat, Notes).Kit (formerly Converkit)Kit (formerly ConvertKit) is an email-marketing platform designed for creators who want more control over audience relationships, automation, and monetization — not just basic newsletters. It includes advanced segmentation, automation workflows, and tools for selling digital products alongside newsletters.Growing Your ListI talk about the low conversion rate for newsletter signups—typically only 3-5% of your audience might subscribe, and having a strong lead magnet helps increase that number.Personally, I use my newsletter in a hybrid way: I share my thoughts on podcasting, updates on my latest content, things that have caught my eye, and a call to check out the School of Podcasting. However, if your main goal is marketing, Substack isn’t the best choice. Tools like Kit, MailerLite, and Beehiv are better for things like automated sequences, lead magnets, and selling advertising.I also discuss how some platforms—like Riverside and Kajabi—offer podcast hosting, but I don’t recommend using services that aren’t specifically built for podcast hosting. If you’re considering a platform, always check if they offer important tools like 301 redirects for your podcast feed.Got More Questions?In summary, if you just want to inform and connect with your audience, Substack is an easy and free option. If you want to do marketing or advanced list-building, platforms like Kit or MailerLite are better suited.If you need help with any of this, don’t hesitate to reach out or join the School of Podcasting, where you’ll find step-by-step courses, consulting, and a supportive community.This content may contain affiliate links, meaning I earn a small commission if you purchase through these links at no additional cost to you. I only recommend products or services I trust and believe will provide value to you. Thank you for your support!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy