TV personalities Vicky Pattison and Ercan Ramadan join Catherine Bohart and Sarah Keyworth to talk about getting together, public perceptions and private nerves.
In the podcast that celebrates the mundane in relationships, Vicky and Ercan talk about following each other online, mutual break-ups and a desire to relax in airports.
And why there's always a dishwasher to empty.
Producer: Kate Holland Executive Producer: Lyndsay Fenner
A Whistledown production for BBC Radio 4
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