别人上班，她旅行+搞钱：Lily的流浪人生太上头｜来自小宇宙播客《呼笑山庄》的访谈

来自小宇宙播客《呼笑山庄》的访谈一个人，一台麦，10年，2000+集播客！当我们还在为“断更”找借口时，她已经一边环游世界（45国！），一边把播客做成了一部史诗级的“生活回忆录”。更抓马的是，这一切的起点，竟是一场“婚变”和一次“离家出走”。她是如何把一手“烂牌”打成王炸，从低谷走向这条“自由之路”的？ 是什么样的神仙毅力，让她在旅途中持续输出？ （主播tiantian表示：我一旅行就断更啊喂！）这期节目，我们和这位“骨灰级”Podcaster 不止聊热情、疗愈，也聊如何把“喜欢”这件事做到极致，怎样能搞到足够的钱来环游世界。前方能量密度极大，请系好安全带，和我们一起出发！�【精彩抢先听】05:10 古早播客主？Lily自曝2014年（当时还没人听）就开始录音10:25 【灵魂拷问】1800集之后，播客还只是“兴趣”吗？（Lily的答案很治愈）15:40 主播之路：从学英语到“回忆录”？20:15 “我小时候就过上了旅居生活”：原来“爱折腾”是刻在DNA里的25:30 揭秘“一周三更”秘诀：Lily独创的“英语+故事”三明治更新法30:50 Lily的Slogan：“世界需要更多的疗愈，还有热情的年轻人！”（主播当场被击中！）37:22 【大型“内卷”现场】主播灵魂发问：你怎么做到边玩边更新的？！（我们一玩就断更啊喂！）45:10 如何把“喜欢”和“擅长”结合起来？50:30 “离家出走”10年后，她找到了那条“自由之路”吗？【本期坐庄】本期嘉宾：喜马拉雅电台“学英语环游世界”的主播Lily，热爱旅行、学习和自我成长的创作者。呼笑山庄庄主：高能量身心教练—— Tiantian呼笑山庄庄主：职场教练—— 派 Pie

“Even in the darkest rooms, a single ray of light can teach the heart to hope again.”“即使身处最黑暗的房间，一道光也能教会心再次相信希望。”在今天这一集，我想邀请你一起思考：如果你已经是自由的，你会怎么生活、怎么思考呢？这是一位听众在1821集留言中说到我给我学员的问题，也是一个非常有力量的提问。很多时候，我们无法活出自己渴望的状态，是因为我们的想像力被束缚了。我们从未真正想像过“当我自由了，我会是什么样子”。其实，自由并不是等你拥有什么之后才会出现，而是当你愿意“先成为”那个自由的人时，它就已经在你心里诞生了。你随时都可以选择自由，从一个念头开始。� 云雀实验室（Lark Lab）邀请你这是一个为梦想家与创作者而设的内在成长圈。在这里，我们一起探索语言、心灵与自由工作的可能性。如果你也想活出更多自由、玩心与创造力，欢迎加入我们的云雀实验室，一起展开属于你的飞行旅程。flywithlily.com/6am

Hello everyone,Today, I want to share a story from my childhood with you.This memory feels both vivid and blurry — like an old film playing in my mind, with flickering light, faint sounds, and a bittersweet feeling in my heart哈啰，大家好。今天想和你们分享一段我童年的故事。这一段记忆对我来说，既真实又模糊，像一部老电影，在脑海里有光、有声音，也有心里的一点酸。When I left northern Taiwan, I had just entered my second year of elementary school.My family moved to Kaohsiung, and from then on, life became a little unstable — like a snail without its shell, wandering everywhere looking for a place to rest.离开了北部的生活，那年我刚升上国二。我们全家又搬到了高雄。从那时开始，生活变得有点颠簸，像一只没有壳的蜗牛，到处找地方落脚。By that time, my parents were already living separately.My mom would visit two or three times a week,while I stayed with my dad, living in a tiny storage room at his friend’s place.It was located behind a fire station — small and dark.There was a little glass window on the ceiling, and light would trickle in through it.My dad and I shared one bed.I remember often praying toward that little skylight —it was the same moment I mentioned in my episode “The Broken Bone Miracle.”那时候，爸爸妈妈已经分开住了。妈妈一个礼拜会来看我两三次，而我，跟着爸爸住在他朋友家的小储藏间。那地方在消防局后面，很小、很暗。天花板上有一块小小的玻璃，光会从那里透进来。我和爸爸就睡在同一张床上。我还记得，我常常对着那个小天窗祷告——那也是我在《断骨奇迹》里提到的那个时刻。My dad drank every day back then.My daily task was to cross the street and buy him half a dozen bottles of rice wine or beer.At night, his friends would come over to drink, chat, and discuss work.Sometimes, the policemen or firefighters next door would play mahjong right beside our room.Strangely, I didn’t mind the noise.Only when my dad got drunk and his voice suddenly grew loud would I frown a little — but I stayed quiet, just being there.爸爸那时每天都喝酒。我每天的任务，就是去对面的小店帮他买半打米酒头或啤酒。晚上，爸爸的朋友会来找他喝酒、聊天、谈案子，有时候，隔壁的警察或消防员会在我们房间旁边打麻将。奇怪的是，我并不觉得被打扰。只是爸爸喝醉的时候，声音会突然变得很大。那一刻，我总会轻轻皱一下眉头，但还是默默待着。We didn’t have our own toilet.If I needed to pee, I had to go to a corner of the water-storage room outside.For number two, I had to walk through the kitchen and the living room to get to the bathroom.There were so many rats and cockroaches there.Once, a rat even crawled across my face while I was sleeping — I was terrified.After that, we set traps and sometimes could smell the dead rats afterward.But whenever we found one, my dad would take me out to a restaurant to celebrate.Looking back, it was absurd and somehow adorable —our own little “ritual” together.我们没有自己的厕所。如果要上小号，就要到外面的储水室角落解决；要上大号，得穿过厨房、经过客厅，才能到达马桶。那里老鼠和蟑螂超多，有一次，一只老鼠竟然从我脸上爬过去。那一刻，我真的吓坏了。后来我们放了捕鼠器，有时还能闻到老鼠尸体的味道。但只要找到尸体，爸爸就会带我去餐厅庆祝。现在想起来，那样的日子既荒谬又可爱。那是我和爸爸之间，默契的“小仪式”。Although that period of time was very dark, I always knew —my parents’ love for me never faded.Even though they were busy and emotionally distant, they still loved me in their own ways.I had a lot of freedom: I could run and play with the neighborhood kids, or wander off to explore on my own.When Mom came, she always brought me delicious food.When I broke my arm, she visited every day to massage it or remind me to take more calcium and vitamin B.Dad sometimes went away for a week on work trips, and without Mom around, I had to take care of myself.Before leaving, he would hand me a thick wad of cash — ten thousand NT dollars as pocket money.To me, that felt like a fortune.I’d use it to buy little things I liked, or treat my friends to ice cream and movies.That sense of having control over my tiny world made me feel so happy and free.虽然那一段时间非常黑暗，但我始终知道——爸爸妈妈对我的疼爱从未少过。即使他们各自忙碌、情感疏离，却仍然以他们的方式爱着我。我拥有许多自由：可以和邻居的孩子们在巷子里追逐玩耍，也能自己到处探索。妈妈来的时候总是会为我带好吃的，我骨折后手弯弯的期间，妈妈每天都会来帮我的手臂按摩或者提醒我要吃更多的钙片和维生素B；爸爸偶尔要出门工作，一走就是一个礼拜，没有妈妈的陪伴，我就得一人打理自己的生活，他总会在离开前塞给我一叠钞票——一万元的零用钱。那时候的我觉得这是一笔巨款，我会拿着它去买自己喜欢的小东西，或是请朋友吃冰、看电影。那种自己掌握小世界的感觉，让我感受到前所未有的快乐与自由。我的网站：flywithlily.com

� 节目简介 | Podcast Description哈啰，大家好。这一集，我想和你分享一段我童年的故事。那是一段又黑暗又温柔的回忆——关于离家、关于爱，也关于成长中那些没说出口的痛与力量。有时，疗愈并不是要忘记，而是勇敢地回望，看见自己当时的样子，再一次对那个小小的自己说：“你做得很好了。”�️ 本集格言 | Quote of the Day“Even in the darkest rooms, a single ray of light can teach the heart to hope again.”“即使身处最黑暗的房间，一道光也能教会心再次相信希望。”� 行动呼吁 | Call to Action如果这集故事也触动了你，我诚挚邀请你加入 11月6日云雀实验室会员体验日。一起在安全、真诚的空间里，用故事、呼吸与连结，拥抱内在的小孩，重新感受被爱与被看见的力量。�请透过官网flywithlily/6am报名，让我们一起，从故事中长出新的光。 �

她在32岁辞职，展开两年环游世界的旅程：与Xin的灵魂对话这一集，我在泰国北部的小镇拜县，遇见了一位让我难以忘怀的女生——心。她一个人背起背包，从中国出发，旅行至今两年多。从夏威夷的森林、南美的部落，到泰国的寺庙冥想，她用旅程一步步走进自己。在访谈中，我们聊了：� 她如何在32岁辞掉高薪稳定的工作，踏上找回自我的旅途� 她如何面对恐惧与不确定�‍️ 她在冥想与自然中找到的启发� 一个人长期旅行的现实与灵性平衡听心的故事，你也许会开始思考：如果不是现在，那什么时候才是真正属于自己的时光？ 行动呼吁 CTA：如果这一集触动了你，也在心里种下了“想要出走”的种子，� 欢迎下载我的免费挑战指南《30天走出舒适圈》，每天5分钟，让你勇敢靠近自由与真实的自己。�flywithlily.com/30还有加入我11/6的云雀实验室会员体验日�flywithlily.com/6am� 在Spotify、Apple Podcasts 或小宇宙搜寻 “学英语环游世界”，订阅节目、留下五星评论，让更多女生一起被唤醒 �#环游世界 #女性旅行 #灵魂对话 #舒适圈挑战 #学英语环游世界 #iflywithlily #拜县生活 #内在成长

只要心中有信念，就没有不能愈合的伤。When there is faith in your heart, no wound is too deep to heal.在这一集中，我将带你走进我在泰国拜县度过的四个礼拜。这是一段充满惊喜、深层连结与灵性疗愈的旅程。我遇见了来自世界各地的人，经历了许多看似偶然、却又命中注定的时刻：有人让我重新定义“家的意义”，有人给了我深刻的爱与陪伴，还有人唤醒了我内在久违的火焰。还有那场蘑菇果昔的体验、过敏带来的情绪释放、以及最后对宇宙的再次信任——这四周，让我明白：奇迹并不遥远，它就在每一次的真实感受里。� Vocabulary Corner | 单词解析(延续上集“断骨的奇迹”主题：疗愈与信念的关键字汇)1. 信念 faithI learned that when there is faith, anything can heal.当你心中有信念，没有什么伤口不能愈合。2. 奇迹 miracleThat was the moment I began to believe in miracles.那是我开始相信奇迹存在的时刻。3. 骨头 boneMy bone pierced through the skin when I fell.当我跌倒时，骨头直接穿出了皮肤。4. 疤痕 scarThe scars on my body are marks from my childhood.我身上的疤痕，是童年留下的印记。5. 祈祷 prayI prayed silently, hoping for a miracle.我默默地祈祷，希望奇迹发生。6. 勇敢 braveFrom then on, I became braver and more confident.从那之后，我变得更勇敢、更有自信。7. 力量 strengthFaith gave me the strength to keep going.信念给了我继续前行的力量。8. 愈合 healWith time and faith, every wound can heal.随着时间与信念，所有的伤口都能愈合。報名「雲雀實驗室會員體驗日」flywithlily.com/6am

只要心中有信念，就没有不能愈合的伤。When there is faith in your heart, no wound is too deep to heal.童年时期，我经历过许多意外，身上几道明显的疤痕，都是那段日子留下的印记。During my childhood, I went through many accidents. The scars on my body are the marks left from those days.但最让我难以忘怀、也彻底改变我人生信念的，是那场“断骨的奇迹”。But what I’ll never forget — and what changed my belief in life — was the miracle of my broken bone.那时，我们一家暂时借住在爸爸朋友家的储藏间里。At that time, we were living in a small storage room at my father’s friend’s house.有一天，我在消防局后面的停车场和邻居孩子们玩闪电滴滴。One day, I was playing tag with the neighborhood kids in the parking lot behind the fire station near the place we stayed at.我躲在一辆消防车上，急着跳下来逃跑时，一脚踩空，整个人摔了下去。I was hiding on a fire truck and, in my rush to jump off, I lost my balance and fell.为了不让头部着地，我本能地伸出左手支撑，结果骨头竟从皮肤里穿出来。Instinctively, I reached out my left hand to protect my head — and my bone pierced straight through the skin.鲜血瞬间染红整个手臂，我痛得放声大哭。Blood covered my arm in seconds, and I screamed in pain.爸爸听到后赶来，把我抱去诊所。My father rushed over and carried me to a small clinic.我哭得撕心裂肺，他却冷冷地说：“是自己造成的，不许哭！”I cried uncontrollably, but he said coldly, “You did this to yourself. Stop crying.”他一直把我当男孩养，认为我必须学会坚强。He had always raised me like a boy — he thought I needed to be strong.接骨师强行拉扯我变形的手臂，疼痛几乎让我昏厥。The bone setter pulled my twisted arm so hard that I almost fainted.但我再也没有哭。But I didn’t cry again.最终，我被送到大医院重新矫正。Eventually, I was taken to a big hospital to fix it properly.几周后拆掉石膏时，医生皱着眉说：“妳的手可能永远都会是弯的。”When the cast was removed weeks later, the doctor frowned and said, “Your arm might never straighten again.”那一刻，十岁的我的世界崩塌了。At that moment, my world collapsed. I was only 10.我试着提重物、按摩手臂，怎么样都没有效。I tried lifting heavy things, massaging my arm — nothing worked.直到有一天下午，我看着天花板的小窗，忍不住哭了出来。Until one afternoon, I looked at the small window above my bed and started crying.我对着那束光默默祈祷，希望有个奇迹。I prayed silently to that little beam of light, hoping for a miracle.突然，我听见一个清晰的声音：Then suddenly, I heard a clear voice say—“把你的脚，踩在你的手掌上。”“Put your foot on your hand.”我照做了，刚开始一阵剧痛，然后我睡着了。I did what it said. It hurt terribly at first, then I fell asleep.醒来之后，我的手——真的伸直了。When I woke up, my arm… was completely straight.我吓到全身发抖，也感动得流下泪。I was trembling in shock — and crying in gratitude.那一刻，我开始相信神，也相信奇迹。That was the moment I began to believe — in God, in miracles.从那之后，我学会了勇敢，也学会了信念的力量。From then on, I became braver, and I learned the power of faith.只要心中有信念，就没有不能愈合的伤。When there is faith in your heart, no wound is too deep to heal.My website:www.flywithlily.com

有时候，生命中最深的伤，不只是皮肉之痛，而是心里那份“再也回不去的恐惧”。但当我们选择相信——相信自己、相信生命、相信某种看不见的力量——奇迹往往就在那一刻悄然发生。今天的故事，带你回到我童年的一场意外：那一次，我亲身体验了从疼痛、绝望到重生的过程，也在那个瞬间，第一次真实地“感受到神的存在”。这是一段关于信念、勇气与疗愈的旅程。愿这个故事，提醒你——有时候，我们的破碎，正是通往光的入口。 本集格言 | Quote of the Episode只要心中有信念，就没有不能愈合的伤。When there is faith in your heart, no wound is too deep to heal.� 行动呼吁 | Join the Lark Lab如果你正在经历生命中的转折、疗愈、或重新找回信任的旅程，邀请你参加我的 “云雀实验室会员体验日” ——在一个温柔的空间里，我们一起练习早晨觉醒、心灵滋养与生活创造。� ⁠立即报名体验日｜Join the Lark Lab Experience Day⁠在我的官网：flywithlily.com/6am让信念，成为你每天清晨的力量。 �

“Nature is the source of all true knowledge.” — Leonardo da Vinci“大自然是所有真正知识的源泉。”— 李奥纳多·达文西在1821和1822节目里，我带你回到我六岁那年，在基隆海边度过的一段自由时光。那是一个只有六个学生的小学，放学后我总爱一个人跑去海边，听着浪声、捡贝壳、感受风的拥抱。那时候的我虽然年幼，却第一次体验到什么是“自由”——一种不被规范、也不需要陪伴的宁静与快乐。多年后，我把那份与自然连结的自由感带进了生活，透过“云雀实验室”的晨间活动，每天早上六点和同学们一起运动、冥想、读书与练英语。我们在运动后让心跳平静、在阅读中沉淀气质，在语言练习中找回表达的自信。正如一位学员所说：“早起的习惯让我重新找回生活的节奏与动力。”自由、学习与自律——它们不冲突，反而彼此滋养。在这一集中，我将带你聆听海浪的节奏，也学会用英语表达那份属于心灵的自由。节目最后，我会分享八个与故事相关的英语单词，帮助你边听边学，让语言成为通往自由的桥梁。我的网站是 flywithlily.com

“大自然是所有真正知识的源泉。”— 李奥纳多·达文西“Nature is the source of all true knowledge.”— Leonardo da VinciLooking back, I realize that I began living a nomadic life long before I even knew what that word meant.回首过去，我发现自己其实很早就开始过着“游牧”的生活。I was born in Kaohsiung, and when I was four, my family moved to Sanchong — now part of New Taipei City — because of my father’s job.我在高雄出生，四岁时因爸爸的工作搬到三重（现在的新北市）。But when my father’s law research institute in Taipei went bankrupt, our financial situation collapsed. We had no choice but to stay temporarily at a friend’s house.然而，当爸爸经营的台北法学研究社倒闭后，家里的经济状况急转直下，我们不得不暂时寄住在爸爸朋友的家里。Because of changing school districts, I attended five different elementary schools.由于学区关系，我在小学阶段辗转换过五所学校。Among all those years, my most unforgettable memories were from a small seaside school in Keelung called Hemei Elementary.其中让我最难忘的，是在基隆和美的小学生活。It was a tiny coastal village, and there were only six students in my first-grade class.那是一个靠海的小村落，我就读的和美国小一年级班上只有六个人。Because there were so few of us, our young and handsome teacher treated us with special care.因为学生少，年轻又帅气的班导师对我们呵护备至。Every day after school, I couldn’t wait to run to the sea.每天放学后，我迫不及待地跑向海边。Along the way, I often saw villagers cracking open sea urchins or cleaning eels, the air filled with the salty, fishy scent of the ocean.沿途总能看见村民们在剥海胆、杀鳗鱼，空气里弥漫着海水与鱼腥交织的气味。Even though I couldn’t swim and had to rely on floaties, the feeling of being close to the sea was irreplaceable.即使我还不会游泳，只能靠泳臂漂浮，但那种与大海亲近的感觉，无可取代。It was the first time I discovered that solitude could feel so joyful.那是我第一次体验“一个人”也能如此快乐的时光。I loved the sea breeze brushing against my cheeks and the rhythmic sound of waves crashing on the shore.我喜欢海风轻拂脸颊的感觉，聆听潮水拍打岸边的节奏。Sometimes I picked up shells or chased crabs; other times, I simply let the waves wash the sand from beneath my feet.有时捡贝壳、抓螃蟹，有时任由海浪将脚下的沙粒带走。In those moments, I felt completely embraced by nature — free, safe, and at peace.那一刻，我感觉自己被自然拥抱，身心完全放松。Though I was there for only one semester, that time felt like a dream.虽然只在那里待了一个学期，但那段时光对我来说就像一场梦。It became one of the freest memories of my childhood.那是我童年最自由的记忆。Even without anyone by my side, the six-year-old me would run to the beach alone, as if having a silent conversation with nature.即使没有人陪伴，六岁的我仍会独自跑去海边，仿佛在与大自然进行一场无声的对话。Perhaps that was when a tiny seed was planted — the longing for a life of freedom without boundaries.或许就是从那时起，我心里开始种下了向往自由无拘生活的种子。我的網站是 flywithlily.com