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Google’s Former CEO Is Dancing in Ukraine

12/19/2025
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Earlier this year journalist Ben Makuch caught a glimpse of Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, dancing at a club in Kyiv. It was a surreal moment, a snapshot of a tragic war that the West thinks is defining the future of conflict. Tech executives have flocked to Ukraine, courting the country in an attempt to get at a resource more precious than gold: data. Makuch was just there and has written about what he saw for The New Republic and he’s on the show today to talk about it.


  • Some light smoking banter
  • Ben’s timeline
  • Google’s CEO dancing in a bar in Kyiv
  • Ukraine as laboratory for war tech
  • The JSOC era is over
  • In defense of the majestic American turkey
  • The great America vs China speculation
  • War, cheaper
  • On the actual frontline
  • Wheat fields of fiber optic line
  • The buzz of the drone
  • Life in the bloodlands
  • The human suffering of living in Ukraine
  • FPV-made propaganda
  • “Never underestimate human innovation when it comes to killing other humans.”
  • What’s Erik Prince doing in Ukraine?


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