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DEI: Optics Over Outcomes

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Five years on from Black Lives Matter, where are we with DEI? David and Liam explore the shifting ground: fatigue, backlash and the limits of performative gestures. When should leaders speak out and when should they keep their mouths shut? Has HR lost the plot and replaced real business needs with activism? Are companies really more profitable if they are more diverse? Should Dave be platforming an old white man as his mentor?



Liam’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-black-03763a8


David’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mrdavidmcqueen


Tandem’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tandem-productions-ltd


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Engineer: Andy Fell


Series Producer: Tom Woolfenden


Executive Producer: Alex Anderson



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