Senior Rules Officials Carlton “Slugger” White and Mark Russell

Justin Rose and his wife Kate take us through the beginning of their relationship, Kate's career as a gymnast (1:58) and Justin's gold medal-winning performance at the Olympic Games Rio 2016 (4:10). We also tag along for a tour of the effects of Hurricane Dorian in The Bahamas (6:35) and hear about how they chose to live there and what life is like for them on the islands (7:15). 

Two decades since the passing of World Golf Hall of Fame and 3-time Major Champion Payne Stewart, his daughter Chelsea and son Aaron give a detailed account of October 25th 1999, the day of his horrific plane crash and the very public funeral that followed. The siblings reflect on the significance that day has had on their lives and talk about ways they remember their father. Chelsea and Aaron discuss milestones and life events he has missed and how this moment in their lives brought them closer as a family. They also look at the legacy he left behind, family traditions and imagine what it would be like to have one more conversation with him today.

Jason Day and his wife Ellie discuss some of the most significant and personal moments in their lives together. The two recap the unique and timid way in which they first met in 2005 (1:25). Jason explains how he used a scrapbook to propose to Ellie in 2009 (7:16). Ellie tells the story of how she found out that she was pregnant with their first child ahead of the 2011 Presidents Cup in Australia (9:15). The incredible run of dominance Jason had in 2015-16 with 8 PGA TOUR wins in the span of a 15-month period, reaching World Number 1 for the first time in his career (14:00). Jason and Ellie talk about life on the road, as they travel from tournament-to-tournament in their RV (19:40). And finally, the two explain in their own words what happened the night Ellie was taken out by LeBron James as he jumped into the fans for a ball during a Cleveland Cavilers game (26:30).

Wyndham Clark is joined by his caddie, John Ellis, and friend Jeff Gaskill and looks back to his start in golf at the age of 3, first hole-in-one (2:15) and path to choosing golf as his primary sport (3:34). Clark walks through where he met Jeff (5:35) and John, who was an assistant coach at Oregon (7:30) and keeps a handy tool in the bag to keep Clark in check if he gets “baby-ish” on the course. The duo share a few stories from their time together on the PGA TOUR (8:25). In 2013, tragedy struck when Clark’s mother passed away, but the young professional plans to turn heartbreak into a good cause as he establishes his career (11:39).  

Wisconsin natives Jerry Kelly and Steve Stricker reflect on a friendship that spans nearly 40 years, beginning with a rivalry in the Badger State as amateurs (1:15), college and their early professional careers (11:00), along with how their families have grown together over time (14:33). Combined, Kelly and Stricker have 25 victories on the PGA TOUR and PGA TOUR Champions during successful careers. Up & Down is a production of the PGA TOUR. On each episode, we’re exploring the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.

With a lifetime of experience between them, Carlton “Slugger” White and Mark Russell have been making rules decisions on the PGA TOUR since the early 1980s. Now both vice presidents of rules and competitions, the pair lead the PGA TOUR Rules Committee and act as senior rules officials at PGA TOUR events around the world. Both always strive to ensure fair play, no matter the player or the circumstance. The two seasoned veterans dish on slow play and dive into memorable decisions like Rory McIlroy's unfortunate bunker incident at THE NORTHERN TRUST in 2019, and the recent discussions on pace of play. Up & Down is a production of the PGA TOUR. On each episode, we’re exploring the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.

Self-described disrupters, Matthew Wolff and his swing coach, George Gankas, have been working together for nearly six years. Wolff burst onto the PGA TOUR scene in 2019 winning in his third professional start after a storied career at Oklahoma State. Gankas has built an impressive following on Instagram dissecting his student’s swings for players like Wolff, who owns one of the most unique swings in the game. The two reflect on how they first met, discuss Wolff’s swing (2:01) and laugh about some of the criticism each has received (3:28). They discuss the 20-year old’s length off the tee (5:43), the vocabulary Gankas has created with his group of students (9:51) and the weight of expectations on a player with Wolff’s talent (11:37). Up & Down is a production of the PGA TOUR. On each episode, we’re exploring the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.

In the coming months, Up & Down will feature more compelling conversations from some of the most unique duos in the game of golf, including Matthew Wolff and his swing coach George Gankas, PGA TOUR Rules Officials Slugger White and Mark Russell and more.

Joel Dahmen and caddie Geno Bonnalie are childhood friends who grew up playing golf together in the Lewiston-Clarkson Valley on the Washington-Idaho border. They have since developed into one of the most entertaining duos on the PGA TOUR. The two recount the notorious email Bonnalie sent Dahmen applying to be his caddie (3:50), discuss some of Bonnalie’s funniest tweets (9:27), share how Bonnalie once broke both of his arms playing golf (11:20), and tell the story of how playing a round with Tiger Woods brought popularity to Dahmen’s bucket hat (14:05). Up & Down is a new podcast from the PGA TOUR.  On each episode, we’ll explore the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.

Tony Finau and volunteer Bill Patterson were brought together on January 30, 2018 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, held at TPC Scottsdale, where the veteran PGA TOUR player rescued Patterson from a near tragedy on the driving range. Patterson was performing his duties, as he has for the past decade, when he lost control of his golf cart (2:38) and got run over. Patterson was dragged some 50 yards before Finau reached him and was able to move the cart off. He has since made a full recovery and reunited with the golfer at the 2019 3M Open in Minneapolis, Minnesota (6:28). Up & Down is a new podcast from the PGA TOUR. On each episode, we’ll explore the profound personal connections that surround our sport as people in the game come together to dive deeper into their relationship than they ever have before.