Live Enneagram Q&A | Suzanne Stabile (Ep. 16)

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Alison Cook, an Enneagram Three. We talk about why quick-fix solutions and spiritual bypassing can keep us from genuine healing, and how learning to honor difficult emotions can lead to greater emotional health. She also shares her practical framework of naming, framing, and braving our emotions so we can face hard situations with greater wisdom and courage.Dr. Alison is a therapist and host of the top-ranked The Best of You podcast. She’s the bestselling author of I Shouldn’t Feel This Way and The Best of You, and co-author of Boundaries for Your Soul, which brings the popular Internal Family Systems model of therapy into a Christian framework. Widely recognized for her work at the intersection of faith and psychology, Dr. Alison helps people heal from past wounds, develop a strong sense of self, and build healthier relationships.You can learn more about Dr. Alison Cook and get access to all her resources at https://www.dralisoncook.com/0:00 Audio Intro0:20 Welcome2:11 Alison Cook's Enneagram Journey6:31 The Enneagram & Internal Family Systems9:01 The Problem with Quick Fixes12:55 Name, Frame & Brave Your Emotions22:02 What Is Spiritual Bypassing?26:51 Honoring Difficult Emotions28:56 Faith, Fear & Avoiding Pain33:33 When Love Can't Fix Someone37:35 Healing Takes Time40:19 Resources from Alison Cook43:01 Final Thoughts━━━━━━━━Join the Mental Health ‘27 Summit Waitlist (Feb 16-19, 2027)Be the first to know when registration opens: typeish.com/summit/waitlist━━━━━━━━Get FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Start Binging the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU 

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Curt Thompson, a Four on the Enneagram. We talk about why healing is more than simply treating symptoms, and how our stories, relationships, and wounds can shape our mental health. Curt also explores neuroplasticity, interpersonal neurobiology, and why being deeply seen, known, and loved by others can be such an important part of becoming whole.Dr. Thompson is a board certified psychiatrist, author, speaker, and co-host of the Being Known Podcast. He is known for beautifully integrating neuroscience, human relationships, and faith. Many people have told me that his books such as The Anatomy of the Soul, The Soul of Shame, and The Soul of Desire have been life-changing. You can learn more about Dr. Thompson, his podcast, and books at https://curtthompsonmd.com/0:00 Audio Intro0:20 Welcome2:00 Curt Thompson's Enneagram Journey5:50 Life as a Type 49:13 Rethinking Mental Health & Healing24:57 Finding Agency in the Healing Process31:36 The Long & Difficult Work of Healing34:04 Why We Guard Against Healing38:33 Neuroplasticity & the Hope for Change46:07 What Is Interpersonal Neurobiology?50:57 A Word for Therapists53:02 Final Thoughts━━━━━━━━Join the Mental Health Summit Waitlist (Feb 16-19, 2027)Be the first to know when registration opens: typeish.com/summit/waitlist━━━━━━━━Get FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Start Binging the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU

I'm joined by bestselling author, psychotherapist, and The Road Back to You co-author Ian Morgan Cron. While Ian has helped millions of people understand the Enneagram, this conversation is much more personal. Ian shares his own journey through addiction and recovery, why he believes every one of us is somewhere on the addiction continuum, and how our deepest attachments—to work, success, relationships, control, or even our own pain—can quietly shape our mental health. This was one of the most talked-about sessions on my Mental Health Summit and I think it will change the way you think about addiction.You can find Ian, his best-selling books, Enneagram courses, and new Enneagram assessment at https://ianmorgancron.com/0:00 Audio Intro0:30 Welcome2:23 What Is Mental Health?7:06 Everyone Is on the Addiction Continuum11:46 Idolatry, Attachment & Addiction16:22 Hidden Attachments That Shape Us20:45 The Five-Step Addiction Cycle29:31 Ian's Story of Addiction & Recovery36:08 The Enneagram & Our Attachments45:47 The First Steps Toward Freedom50:09 Resources from Ian Cron53:03 Final Thoughts53:51 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Preview of 3-Hour Enneagram History CourseEnroll here: https://www.typeish.com/history ━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

You may know Greer Grammer from MTV's Awkward, ABC's The Middle, or as the daughter of actor Kelsey Grammer. I sat down with Greer to talk about what it's like to navigate the entertainment industry as an Enneagram Nine. We discuss handling rejection, responding to online criticism, her faith, mental health, and how the Enneagram has helped her better understand herself, her relationships, and her calling as an actress. This is a must-listen to episode if you an Enneagram Nine, an Enneagram coach, or are in relationships with someone who is a Nine.The best place to follow Greer is on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/greer_grammer. She loves the community she’s built there and loves connecting with people.0:00 Audio Intro0:31 Welcome2:29 Discovering She's a Type 97:08 The Superpower of Type 9s13:04 Feeling Seen in Hollywood17:52 Handling Criticism & Social Media29:57 Surviving Hollywood Through Faith34:28 The Hidden Anger of Type 9s38:59 Why Hollywood Needs More Type 9s44:10 Final Thoughts44:45 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

I'm joined by Ben Higgins, who many of you know as Season 20's Bachelor on ABC's hit show The Bachelor. Together, we explore what it's really like to experience life as an Enneagram Four—from feeling misunderstood and wrestling with shame to navigating fame, marriage, and the longing for authentic connection. You can visit his company Generous Coffee online at https://generouscoffee.com which donates 100% of its revenue to non-profits. I’d also recommend checking out his book Alone in Plain Sight wherever books are sold, and his podcast Almost Famous wherever you listen to podcasts. 0:00 Audio Intro0:31 Welcome2:48 Life After The Bachelor5:19 Discovering He's a Type 48:41 The Bachelor & Feeling Misunderstood12:48 Fame, Validation & Identity18:32 Raising a Type 4 Child27:03 Longing, Love & Marriage34:10 What He Loves About Type 9s37:06 Longing for the Ideal Relationship43:25 Which Types Challenge Him?46:04 Final Thoughts50:40 Outro━━━━━━━━ 40-Day Ennearam Devotional SeriesBuy here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VGPJTX6━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

I'm joined by Enneagram Four Dr. Russell Moore, Editor-in-Chief of Christianity Today. Previously, Dr. Moore served as president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. In 2021, he resigned after years of sustained criticism and threats over his public stance on a number of issues, including his criticism of President Donald Trump during the 2016 election, his comments on race and immigration, and his advocacy for addressing sexual abuse within the SBC. He's a courageous man whom I deeply respect and admire. I sat down with Dr. Moore for a brief conversation to hear his perspective as a public theologian on whether Christians should use the Enneagram and to find out what he enjoys about being an Enneagram Four. To learn more about Dr. Moore, his bestselling books, and the podcasts he hosts through Christianity Today, visit https://www.russellmoore.com/0:00 Audio Intro0:31 Welcome2:25 Should Christians Use the Enneagram?4:50 Life as a Type 410:21 The Danger of Overcorrection11:32 Healthy Disillusionment16:26 A Type 4's Greatest Pet Peeve19:02 How the Enneagram Helps Relationships25:16 Handling Criticism as a Type 430:56 Final Thoughts31:29 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Preview of 3-Hour Enneagram History CourseEnroll here: https://www.typeish.com/history ━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

This is a Live Q&A I hosted with Suzanne Stabile during one of our Type·ish Summits (formerly called EnneaSummits). Some of the things we cover include how to respond to conservative Christian criticism of the Enneagram, whether certain types are more prone to narcissism or other mental health diagnoses, how trauma affects your type, how to identify your type without a test, and what healthy growth looks like for Twos, Sixes, Nines, and more. If you've ever wished you could be a fly on the wall and listen in as Suzanne shares her seasoned wisdom, this episode is the next best thing.You can stay up to date with all that Suzanne is doing at https://suzannestabile.com. There you’ll find a link to her best-selling Enneagram books, courses, in-person cohorts, speaking events, and so much more.0:00 Audio Intro0:31 Welcome2:30 Responding to Enneagram Critics8:33 Personality Disorders & Type11:24 What Healthy Twos Look Like16:03 The Best Way to Learn the Enneagram20:34 Can You Be a Different Kind of Type 4?22:12 Finding Your Type Without a Test23:32 Your Presence Matters (Type 9)26:29 When Your Partner Isn't Growing29:17 Women in Ministry Leadership32:57 Best & Worst Enneagram Pairings35:06 Participation vs. Merging (Type 9)37:15 Productive Thinking for Type 642:41 Trauma & Finding Your Type47:18 Final Thoughts48:24 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Preview of 3-Hour Enneagram History CourseEnroll here: https://www.typeish.com/history ━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

I'm joined by Dr. Dan Siegel—New York Times bestselling author, psychiatrist, and one of the world's leading voices on interpersonal neurobiology. We discuss his groundbreaking book on the Enneagram, how a chance meeting with EnneaTypes creator Claudio Naranjo changed the trajectory of his work, and why this once-skeptical neuroscientist spent the next two decades helping build a bridge between modern neuroscience and the Enneagram.You can stay up to date with all that Dan is doing at https://drdansiegel.com/ and you’ll also find a link there to his books, including Personality and Wholeness in Therapy: Integrating 9 Patterns of Developmental Pathways in Clinical Practice. 0:00 Audio Intro0:30 Welcome2:14 What Is Interpersonal Neurobiology?6:51 Defining the Mind15:18 Meeting Claudio Naranjo19:00 Discovering the Enneagram28:09 Building a Scientific Framework41:26 Nine Patterns of Personality45:46 Personality, Attachment & Wholeness51:44 Final Thoughts53:22 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Preview of 3-Hour Enneagram History CourseEnroll here: https://www.typeish.com/history ━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

Last week, Russ Hudson and I traveled back to the 1970s and 80s to tell the story of the modern Enneagram movement. In Part 2 today, we’ll go beyond the timeline and reflect on what was happening behind the scenes as the Enneagram exploded in popularity during the 1980s and 90s. We’ll talk about the confusion, controversies, and competing schools of thought that marked those early years, along with the pivotal moments that first brought many of the leading teachers together. You can follow Russ at https://russhudson.com/.If Russ and I’s conversation about the history of the Enneagram really intrigued you, I have good news. I spent months researching and developing a 3-hour Enneagram history course that you can preview for free at https://www.typeish.com/history0:00 Audio Intro0:31 Welcome2:22 Russ Hudson's Biggest Breakthroughs7:44 The Enneagram's Rise in the 1980s & 90s15:03 The Birth of the IEA18:35 Where the Enneagram Came From27:53 Claudio Naranjo & "Automatic Writing"31:00 How Don Riso Expanded the Enneagram38:42 What's Changed Since the Early Days?42:03 What's Wrong with Enneagram Teaching Today?47:40 Final Thoughts49:03 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Preview of 3-Hour Enneagram History CourseEnroll here: https://www.typeish.com/history ━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********

Russ Hudson and I travel back to the 1970s and 80s to tell the story of the modern Enneagram movement.  Russ will also share his own personal journey—how he first encountered the Enneagram through the Gurdjieff tradition, met Don Riso, and eventually began a decades-long partnership that would shape the Enneagram as many of us know it today. In Part 2 next week, we’ll go beyond the timeline and reflect on what was happening behind the scenes as the Enneagram exploded in popularity during the 1980s and 90s. We’ll talk about the confusion, controversies, and competing schools of thought that marked those early years, along with the pivotal moments that first brought many of the leading teachers together. You can follow Russ at https://russhudson.com/.If Russ and I’s conversation about the history of the Enneagram really intrigued you, I have good news. I spent months researching and developing a 3-hour Enneagram history course that you can preview for free at https://www.typeish.com/history0:00 Audio Intro0:31 Welcome2:36 The Modern History Begins5:09 Russ Hudson's Enneagram Journey9:42 Meeting Don Riso12:31 The Don Riso Partnership17:30 Building the Modern Enneagram24:43 The Early 1990s & Copyright Lawsuit29:09 The Birth of the IEA35:20 Christianity & the Enneagram42:32 The Future of the Enneagram49:24 Meeting Claudio Naranjo51:29 Final Thoughts53:27 Outro━━━━━━━━ FREE Preview of 3-Hour Enneagram History CourseEnroll here: https://www.typeish.com/history ━━━━━━━━ FREE Enneagram Self-Typing GuideDownload here: https://www.typeish.com/free ━━━━━━━━Binge the Type·ish PodcastApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/type-ish/id1867815632Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4hczBky5UIYxWaZypxdwyT?si=42d759b9c3c74816YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Follow Type·ishWeb: https://www.typeish.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/typeishofficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gospelforenneagramTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@typeishofficial━━━━━━━━Music used with permission: 1EHGFXLKCSTV87DM, R1FX7HC5J8QQ4AG3, FKF90OE351KHV1DU*********