425: Darrell Lester—The Eight Letter F Word

As a logger and forester, Mike Albrecht knows a lot about wood. He is the two-time president of the American Loggers Council, and he’s on a mission to reintroduce America to one of its most abundant and reliable renewable resources—wood. Mike also speaks to how we can better manage our forests to prevent wildfires. Today’s episode is sponsored by PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month! BuildSubmarines.com Explore available careers! Tax Network USA—Call 800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com/ROWE for a FREE consultation. MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today!

Carlos spent seven weeks without any screens—no phone, no computer, no TV. His newest book, Reconnected, documents that journey filled with monks, Amish, a bobcat, and lots of self-discovery. Many thanks to our excellent sponsors ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to try ZipRecruiter for FREE. PureTalk.com/Rowe Switch today to a qualifying plan of just $45 per month and get a new iPhone 14 or Samsung Galaxy. mikeroweWORKS.org/scholarship to apply for a work ethic scholarship.

It’s a compelling hang with the iconic comedian, actor, and renaissance man who takes a deep dive on a myriad of topics, including philosophy, physics, and fire prevention. His new sitcom, Shifting Gears, can be seen on ABC Wednesdays at 8PM. Big thanks to our awesome sponsors NetSuite.com/Mike Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning for FREE. American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order. MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today! PrizePicks.com/Mike Use code MIKE to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup. mikeroweWORKS.org/scholarship to apply for a work ethic scholarship.

Former vice president of marketing at Publishers Clearing House, Darrell Lester, tells the inside story of how PCH started as a mom & pop shop, meteorically rose to one of the most beloved companies in America, and then was nearly destroyed by bad press and lawsuits because of greed. Darrell witnessed it all and chronicled it in his book, Downfall of an Icon: The True Story of Publishers Clearing House. Tip o’ the hat to our excellent sponsors ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to try ZipRecruiter for FREE. BuildSubmarines.com Explore available careers! AuraFrames.com/Mike Use code: Mike to get $20 off their best-selling frame. American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order.

As President of Anheuser-Busch Sales and Distribution, Anson had a front-row seat to witness how and why Bud Light lost its position as the most popular beer in America (as well as $30 billion in market cap) by changing its focus from shareholder profits to stakeholder capitalism and partnering with Dylan Mulvaney. His new book, Last Call for Bud Light: The Fall and Future of America’s Favorite Beer is out today. Today’s episode is sponsored by PureTalk.com/Rowe Switch today to a qualifying plan of just $45 per month and get a new iPhone 14 or Samsung Galaxy. MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today! PrizePicks.com/Mike Use code MIKE to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup.

Alex Epstein is back! He’s a philosopher and energy expert who argues that "human flourishing" should be the guiding principle of energy and environmental progress. Many thanks to our excellent sponsors PureTalk.com/Rowe Switch to a plan of $45 per month and get an iPhone 14 or Samsung Galaxy. ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to try ZipRecruiter for FREE. MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today! 3DayBlinds.com/ROWE Buy one get one 50% off

Darnell is the founder and CEO of Thurgood Industries, a career-building platform for skilled workers. He shares his amazing story of how he grew up in New York public housing, served 17 years in prison, and went on to graduate from Yale Law School the same year he received a diploma in manufacturing technology and machining from Lincoln Tech. Big thanks to our awesome sponsors American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order. NetSuite.com/Mike Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning for FREE. MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today! PrizePicks.com/Mike Use code MIKE to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup.

Edward is the co-founder and director of water and energy policy for the California Policy Center. He’s written voluminously on how to fix California’s problems, and he has lots of thoughts about the Los Angeles wildfires: why they happened, who is getting it right, and who is getting it wrong. Tip o’ the hat to our excellent sponsors ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to try ZipRecruiter for FREE. PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month! GoRuck.com Use code MIKE20 to get 20% off full price items. PrizePicks.com/Mike Use code MIKE to get $50 after you play your first $5 lineup.

Peggy Rowe, a.k.a. Mike’s mom, a.k.a. America’s grandmother is not one for excessive cursing… usually. In this episode, however, she makes an exception. Expect tales from the home, cultural appropriation karaoke, and janky Christmas wishes. This cup of coffee will not disappoint.  Many thanks to our excellent sponsors BetterHelp.com/MikeRowe Get 10% off your first month. KnobelSpirits.com/Mike A portion of the proceeds benefit the mikeroweWORKS Foundation

We begin with a mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span and we conclude with the story of Christmas, the way I heard it. The guest is Quentin Schultze and his book can be found here. Many thanks to our excellent sponsors AuraFrames.com/Mike Use code: Mike to get $35 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frame. Terms and conditions apply. PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month! NetSuite.com/Mike Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning for FREE.