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The SECRET to Finding Love After 35?—Elizabeth Day & Mel Schilling

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On this week’s episode of The Therapy Crouch, Abbey and Peter are joined by two very special guests—award-winning author and How to Fail podcast host Elizabeth Day and renowned relationship expert and Married at First Sight star Mel Schilling.


With love, dating, and relationships on the agenda, the gang dives deep into the highs and horrors of modern romance. Elizabeth and Mel share their unique love stories—including both meeting their husbands online at the age of 39—and unpack the wild world of dating apps, the psychology behind toxic relationships, and why so many people settle for the wrong partner.


Abbey and Peter open up about their own relationship dynamics, while Mel and Elizabeth put them under the microscope with some expert-level couple analysis.


And in this week’s Agony Abs, things take a turn for the unexpected—should you be worried if your partner wants you to dress as a burglar? And what do you do if you receive an anonymous letter claiming your husband is cheating?


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00:00:00 – Intro

00:02:24 – Meeting their husbands online at 39

00:04:10 – Why dating apps make modern love disposable

00:10:10 – The importance of ‘dating yourself’ first

00:17:33 – Are you settling in your relationship?

00:27:03 – Why safety is the most romantic thing in a relationship

00:30:32 – The struggle of choosing ‘nice guys’ over ‘bad boys’

00:34:35 – How Abbey and Peter argue—expert analysis

00:42:15Agony Abs: My boyfriend wants me to dress like a burglar?!

00:47:12Agony Abs: I got an anonymous letter saying my husband is cheating…

00:50:41 – How to really know if your partner is lying

00:55:06 – Does marriage kill attraction?


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