Episode 20: Proper. with Erik Garlington

We dive deep into the life-affirming, meaning-making power of Taylor Swift's folklore.

I had an in-depth quaratine call with Max Stern of Signals Midwest about their latest album Pin. Go buy it directly from the artist here. Songs featured in this episode (in chronological order): Can't Help But Wonder Pin Your Old New Apartment Also mentioned: Wil Wagner - More Like Signals MidBEST

I talk to Amy and Daniel of Future Teens about their Dan Campbell-aproved record, Breakup Season. You can find Future Teens on Twitter @FutureTeensUSA and at futureteensusa.com.

Kevin Devine, a unique, thoughtful, loquacious, multi-talented musician talks about the ten-year anniversary of Brother's Blood as well as a whole lot of other things. Go buy his stuff at kevindevine.net.

We pay our dues to the surprise record from wunderkind Phoebe Bridgers (boygenius) and former wunderkind Conor Oberst (Bright Eyes). Full chronological playlist: Songs by Better Oblivion Community Center unless otherwise noted. Chesapeake My City Conor Oberst - College Bright Eyes - If Winter Ends Bright Eyes - The City Has Sex Bright Eyes - June on the West Coast Bright Eyes - Interview from An Attempt to Tip the Scales Bright Eyes - False Advertising Conor Oberst - You All Loved Him Once Phoebe Bridgers - Steamroller The Replacements - Here Comes a Regular Didn't Know What I Was in For Sleepwalkin' Dylan Thomas Service Road Forest Lawn Big Black Heart Phoebe Bridgers - Would You Rather (feat. Conor Oberst)

In this two-part interview with Erik Garlington, the brains and brawn behind the black and queer pop-punk outfit Proper., we discuss both his records, "The Surburbs Have Ruined My Life" and "I Spent the Winter Writing Songs About Getting Better," and how his background of being an outsider and a military brat lead him on a wild journey to be a pop-punk singer in New York City. Full chronological playlist: "Germany, 1991" "A$AP Rocky Type Beat" "Not Black Enough" "Curtains Down! Throw in the Towel!" "Bragging Rights (ft. Willow Hawks of The Sonder Bombs)" "No Loitering"

I interview the very talented and very funny Deanna Belos of Sincere Engineer about her debut album Rhombithian. We talk about the expectations of growing up, lab mice, relationships, and the time Deanna almost died getting coffee. Full chronilogical playlist: Corn Dog Sonnet No. 7 Clip from the film Dirty Work Overbite Let You Down Ghosts In The Graveyard

blink-182, the band every punk pretends they hate, grows up on their untitled album. All songs by blink-182 unless otherwise noted: Here's Your Letter Circle Jerks - I Just Want Some Skank Frank Turner - Dammit - Live at Salty Dog Cruise 2006 Going Away to College - Live at the Pop Disaster Tour 2002 Dammit Touchdown Boy Dick Lips All Systems Go Feeling This Obvious Violence Interview with Tom DeLonge Down Go Easy Target I Miss You Asthenia Always Dammit - Live in Montreal 1998

In a Sound and the Story first, I interview Dylan Slocum of Spanish Love Songs about their album schmaltz. We talk about Dylan's painful journey south and the mechanics of mediocrity. Full chronilogical playlist (all songs by Spanish Love Songs): Beer and Nyquil (Hold It Together) Sequels, Remakes, and Adaptations Nuevo Buffalo Buffalo The Boy Considers His Haircut Otis / Carl Funeral (Phoebe Bridgers cover) And at 54:58, you can hear Dylan's mom sighing "wow" under her breath as noted in The Boy Considers His Haircut.

Today we talk about depression. Full chronological playlist: The Weakerthans - Virtute at Rest Bright Eyes - Poison Oak The Good Life - O'Rourke's, 1:20 A.M. Laura Jane Grace - Manic Depression Phoebe Bridgers - Funeral Elliott Smith - 2:45 am Frightened Rabbit - Floating in the Forth Luke Rainsford - Frame Titus Andronicus - No Future, Part Three: Escape from No Future Frou Frou - Let Go Local News Legend - i wrote this when I was super mentally bad a few months ago :^( Jetty Bones - Bringing It Up Van Morrison - Slim Slow Slider Here is a Spotify playlist of this episode's songs.