Episode 69: How to disagree with physicians

To learn more about Nathan's new 5-week virtual cohort, click below ​Hybrid: A Clinician’s Course to Strength Training for Runners.    To learn more about Bones, Tendons, Weights, & Whistles in New York City, click HERE.  The Runners Zone  Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endurance athletes. For over 10 years, we’ve helped passionate professionals fast-track their skills, grow their confidence, and build beautiful, word-of-mouth businesses that runners rave about. Join us if you’re ready to level up—and have fun doing it. Use code “rzpod” for 10% off the annual membership. To learn more click HERE.

Join Chris and Nathan for Bones Tendons Weights & Whistles @ Motion PT in New York City on October 4-5.  To learn more click HERE.  Episode Timestamps 2:00 "Put more tools in your toolbox" is a bad message 6:00 Red flags in a con ed course or instructor 7:40 You only have so much time for a test 8:00 More is not always better 11:00 The best tests for a "difficult" patient 13:30 PT isn't all about talking to someone 18:00 You can only change so much about your treatment strategy 20:30 Clinical reasoning and the table torsion test 21:00 Gaps in BSI literature and working with actual runners 23:00 The primary clinical tools you need 30:00 Taking away runner's pain is seductive Thanks for tuning into The Runners Zone Podcast.  Chris and I would love it if you gave us a review as those really help us continue to produce episodes. The Runners Zone  Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endurance athletes. For over 10 years, we’ve helped passionate professionals fast-track their skills, grow their confidence, and build beautiful, word-of-mouth businesses that runners rave about. Join us if you’re ready to level up—and have fun doing it. Use code “rzpod” for 10% off the annual membership. To learn more click HERE.

Join Chris and Nathan for Bones Tendons Weights & Whistles @ Motion PT in New York City on October 4-5.  To learn more click HERE.  Episode Timestamps 2:00 When PTs and doctors clash 9:10 How to do well by patients 10:30 Disagreeing on when a patient can run 14:00 Patients need a unified providers  17:30 A challenging navicular BSI 22:00 The need to have imaging that matches a pain presentation 27:00 Doctors, PTs, & researchers have different viewpoints 34:00 Don't overstep your role Thanks for tuning into The Runners Zone Podcast.  Chris and I would love it if you gave us a review as those really help us continue to produce episodes. The Runners Zone  Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endurance athletes. For over 10 years, we’ve helped passionate professionals fast-track their skills, grow their confidence, and build beautiful, word-of-mouth businesses that runners rave about. Join us if you’re ready to level up—and have fun doing it. Use code “rzpod” for 10% off the annual membership. To learn more click HERE.

Thanks for tuning into The Runners Zone Podcast.     Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global online community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endurance athletes.  For over 10 years, we’ve helped passionate professionals fast-track their skills, grow their confidence, and build beautiful, word-of-mouth businesses that runners rave about. Join us if you’re ready to level up—and have fun doing it. Use code “rzpod” for 10% off the annual membership. To learn more click HERE. Episode Timestamps 1:00 PTs should have a nationwide license 6:20 How much running is too much article 10:40 Principles for progressing a runner's training load 19:00 Life loads versus training loads 23:45 Tissue specific training considerations31:00 When training isn't working anymore Studies from this episode -  How much running is too much?  Bone stress injuries

Thanks for tuning into The Runners Zone Podcast.  Chris and I would love it if you gave us a review as those really help us continue to produce episodes. The Runners Zone  Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endurance athletes. For over 10 years, we’ve helped passionate professionals fast-track their skills, grow their confidence, and build beautiful, word-of-mouth businesses that runners rave about. Join us if you’re ready to level up—and have fun doing it.Use code “rzpod” for 10% off the annual membership. To learn more click HERE. Episode Timestamps 1:00 An update on the podcast 9:15 Current reading recommendations 11:30 Empathy without accountability is a slippery slope 16:45 The importance of communication in business 17:45 The need for delayed gratification 22:30 The need to share your ideas (not other people’s) 29:00 Why you need to write a newsletter 35:00 The need to edit roles out of your life 40:00 Think more about your follow up emails    

Chris and Nathan both have new online courses for you to check out.  Nathan's course Rebuild: BSI Management https://runningmatekc.com/rebuild-bone-stress-injury-online-course/ Chris's Course: Clinical Running Essentials https://chrisjohnsonpt.com/clinical-running-essentials/ In this episode, Chris and Nathan dive into  2:00 Does an absensce of pain mean you can start running?7:00 What if a physician gives the runners a green light?11:50 The research on asymptomatic BSIs12:45 Nathan’s phases of BSI rehab17:15 What if running is too important to the patient?21:00 Avoiding distractions in recovery23:00 The George article32:00 Navigating symptoms during BSI rehab39:00 Should patients avoid social media? Warden article https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33962529/ George article https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39141251/ Asymptomatic tibial BSIs https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15333349/

Boston Bones, Tendons, Weights, & Whistles  https://chrisjohnsonpt.com/product/bones-tendons-weights-whistles-boston-march-2025/ Timestamps: 2:20 What’s new with Chris4:30 What’s new with Nathan5:30 Case study one - vague hip pain14:10 Case study two - glute med tendinopathy?16:30 Chris and Nathan come to Boston18:20 Solopreneuer corner: One tip for if and when you go out on your own25:00 What do we struggle with in the clinic?    

To learn more about Chris and Nathan's new business offer click below. https://skilled-teacher-862.kit.com/7fca4b4f3b Episode Timestamps 3:00 Taking time off around the holidays 6:30 Downtime in training and in business 9:00 The space between the stimulus and response 12:42 A new offering from Chris & Nathan 15:20 The non-clinical skills you need 20:00 The top 3 skills that will help your career 25:43 Figuring out YOUR approach to social media 28:00 What we’ve learned from clinics across the country If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love it if you gave us a review and shared with a friend.  

Hey and welcome back to the RZ Podcast On episode 63 Nathan and Chris dive into navigating running related pain.  They cover how we manage pain in our patients, when it’s necessary to push through pain or completely stop training, and how we help healthy runners navigate the inevitable discomfort of running.  Bones, Tendons, Weights, and Whistles @ Gig Harbor, Washington If you are ready to step up your game at managing RRIs, come join Chris and myself in Gig Harbor, Washington on 2/24-2/25. Learn more by clicking HERE.  Yamato Study Bruce Wilk Book The Running Injury Continuum Bone Stress Injury Book 

In today's episode, Chris and Nathan dive into how to start your own running business. They cover their mistakes and failures in starting out, navigating social media, how to grow local relationships, and how to develop your unique voice.  Chris and Nathan are excited to launch our 2024 Long Run Mastermind, designed to help you build a business you love. Check out the link below to learn more and schedule a discovery call.  Long Run Mastermind