Kirk Franklin, the story he's never shared until now, the 20x Grammy winner bares his soul on childhood pain, absent fathers, fame under fire, faith in the storm, and the road to healing. Shocking truths, deep redemption, and the power of forgiveness.

Join us for a transformative discussion with Grammy-winning gospel artist Kirk Franklin, whose musical genius and unwavering faith have reshaped contemporary Christian culture. In one of the most raw and revealing Pivot Podcasts to date, Kirk sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred to open up about the deeply personal battles he's faced behind the spotlight. Known for his musical influence, Kirk shows a different side here—one marked by pain, healing, and redemption. With honesty, humor, and deep vulnerability, he talks about what it really takes to heal—when the cameras are off and the crowd is gone. The guys are able to get him to let his guard down, turn heavy moments light and provide a safe space as the conversation transcends into identity, family, and finding purpose not just through success, but through surrender. In this moving episode, Kirk opens up about: The art of writing hope: Exploring how music becomes a vessel for healing—both for himself and the world. Faith through the fire: Navigating personal struggles, spiritual seasons, and finding renewal in the midst of chaos. The scars of a turbulent upbringing – and how trauma shaped his views on love, trust, and self-worth. Faith when it’s messy – how he wrestled with God during his darkest moments and found peace on the other side. Reuniting with the father he never knew – and the emotional toll of reconciling decades of abandonment. Fatherhood and forgiveness – breaking the cycle for his own children and choosing healing over bitterness. Leading with authenticity: What it means to shepherd a movement when you're also the one being led. With profound vulnerability and trademark energy, Kirk Franklin shares stories of redemption, breakthrough, and creative inspiration. This episode offers a blueprint for staying rooted in purpose, pursuing excellence, and never feeling to flawed to forgive and move forward. Comment and let us know your thoughts on this episode! Thank you to our friends and partners at KaChava for sponsoring this episode. Go to ⁠⁠https://kachava.com⁠⁠ and use code PIVOT for 15% off your next order for a limited time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As our inside look into the 2025 X Games continues, we sit for a special conversation with Skateboard icon Nyjah Huston, who we first had the chance to meet a few years back on The Pivot, and although we get to sit with him again now, it feels as it's a completely new person, as his talent is still top tier, but Nyjah's energy and life perspective is on an entirely different level. As the background noise of Salt Lake City’s mega ramp echoes around them, this episode gives a front-row seat to Nyjah's inner workings—his mental framework, his resilience, and how he envisions the next chapter of his legendary career. Nyjah brought a unique blend of technical insight, raw emotion, and phenomenal perspective sharing with Ryan, Channing and Fred about how life and his sport continues to evolve as he has changed as well. A few of the things we chat about:  Controlling the uncontrollableNyjah opened up about the razor-thin margin between victory and failure on the street course. He shared how he trains his mindset to treat each run as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity—because in competitions like this, "you get one shot."  High-stakes mental focusIn his signature calm tone, he walked listeners through his mental prep before high-stress runs. Emphasizing visualization and emotional detachment, he explained how he stays in the moment: “I don’t think past tricks. I just skate.”  Trick evolution in real timeNyjah detailed how he and his team approach trick selection during events—balancing hype-worthy high-risk lines against guaranteed clean runs. He spoke on adapting instinctively to course flow and weather variables.  Injury, recovery & longevityHaving faced setbacks recently , he revealed new rehab routines, strength protocols, and mental wellness check-ins—enhanced by his ongoing work with spiritual mentor Chervin Jafarieh.  Chasing gold, redefining legacyReflecting on his fierce Olympic & X Games pedigree, Nyjah admitted he's at a crossroads—driven still by competitive hunger but also exploring the freer, street-skater version of himself. He hopes to build a legacy that balances medals with creativity and personal expression.  Beyond pro skatingThe conversation also veered into life off the board—his newer ventures in fashion, music, and philanthropy. Always disciplined, he credits a humble, growth-minded support team for keeping him grounded beyond the ramp. Tap in now for this special conversation live from the X Games! It's filled with a lot of gems around personal growth, focus, commitment and competition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pivot Family! We are out here in Salt Lake City checking out a whole new world for us as we are on site for the 2025 X Games! As the X Games get underway, The Pivot Podcast sits down with two of the most explosive names in action sports — Ryan Williams, the BMX innovator pushing the limits of what's possible, and Dashawn Jordan, the street skater known for his power, precision, and style. Two completely different approaches to each's sport, but unified by the same goal- compete to win. Ryan, Channing and Fred get introduced to the extreme side of action sports, the high risk-high reward mentality and the laser focus needed to lock in on the one opportunity that measures success or failure. We talk mindset, motivation, and mayhem — from landing never-been-done tricks to staying locked in under pressure. Ryan and Dashawn open up about their journeys, what it takes to stay at the top, and what fans can expect at this year’s X Games. Whether it’s the mega ramp or the street course, these athletes are ready to redefine progression. Don’t miss this raw and real conversation with two athletes redefining their sports and giving us a glimpse of what it takes to compete at the highest level. Comment and let us know what you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I realized- dam, I’m causing them shit now and I’m not able to take it…I almost need to save them from me now. I’ll come save you from anybody, and now, I have to come save you from me.” Draymond Green In one of the most personal and revealing episodes of The Pivot Podcast, 4x NBA champion and outspoken leader Draymond Green joins Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a raw, unfiltered conversation that dives deep into the mind of one of sports' most polarizing figures. Draymond opens up about his journey from Saginaw, Michigan to the NBA spotlight, the evolution of his role with the Golden State Warriors, and the challenge of balancing intensity with leadership. He reflects on the highs and lows of his career—including that infamous punch—and how holding teammates accountable has shifted into something deeper: holding himself to an even higher standard. He speaks candidly about the moments he regrets—on and off the court—and how his passion, at times unchecked, has shaped him as a teammate, a leader, and a man. Offering rare insight into who he is beyond the headlines, Draymond contrasts public perception with personal truth, sharing emotional stories of fatherhood, the sacrifices of family, and one pivotal moment that nearly made him walk away from the game he loves. He also addresses Steph Curry’s recent admission of imposter syndrome—why it surprised him, and why it didn’t—shedding light on the bond between teammates whose dynasty was fueled by doubt and relentless drive. Draymond also breaks down LeBron James’ take on ring culture, offering clarity on a message he believes was misunderstood, and shares thoughts on KD’s future and the shifting nature of loyalty in the NBA. From legacy to leadership, mindset to media, Draymond doesn’t hold back—offering one of the most honest, vulnerable, and introspective conversations of his career. With retirement now looming, he reflects on the fears that come with closing this chapter and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. This isn’t just a basketball conversation—it’s a story of growth, accountability, and a story of one of the most misunderstood sports' figures. Tap in now for a side of Draymond Green you've never heard before. Don't forget to subscribe for the latest content and comment to let us know what you think!  Get a free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/pivot. Thanks to ShipStation for partnering with us on this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Comedy, I compare it chefs, you are going to make what you are going to make and people who are gonna like it, will like it. Can’t worry about it, as long as you know you are a good chef.” Godfrey- Comedian  On this powerful and laugh-filled episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder sit down with the one and only Godfrey—comedian, actor, and unapologetic truth-teller. Known for his razor-sharp wit and fearless commentary, Godfrey dives into everything from the evolution of comedy and cancel culture to growing up Nigerian in America and making it in the entertainment industry. Godfrey has been a trailblazer in stand-up for over two decades with his voice becoming a vital force both in comedy and culture. Proud of his Nigerian roots, Godfrey shares stories around his upbringing, importance of education and his family values that helped steer him down an unlikely path of finding success on the stage. In a raw, hilarious, and eye-opening conversation, Godfrey shares personal stories of his journey, reflects on the importance of staying authentic in today’s world, and shares insight into creating viral impressions that have taken social media by storm. Nothing’s off-limits as Godfrey breaks it down with Ryan, Channing, and Fred—bringing laughs, dropping gems, and reminding us why real talk still matters. This episode is a deep dive into the mind of a comic who’s not just funny, but fearless. Tap in to laugh, learn, and understand why Godfrey doesn’t just tell jokes—he tells his truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"When you went through what I went through, there’s nothing to celebrate about that…I look back at all of it, there’s nothing cool about it, I’m hurt from all of it. I have real trauma and pain inside of me from all of that.” Dejounte Murray  In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, NBA guard Dejounte Murray sits down with Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder for a raw, emotional, and reflective conversation on how as a young man he defied odds making it off the Seattle streets to becoming a basketball star to choosing an unlikely life path that forever changed him. Dejounte reveals what it was like growing up in a tough environment, detailing experiences with violence, homelessness, and parental incarceration as he shared how these hardships fueled his determination to succeed and provided the foundation for his resilience on and off the court. With pain and hurt in his voice, Dejounte find the words to share with the guys on the healing process of what he did in his early life, what he witnessed and how survivor's remorse eats at him, saying how everyone he knew from home is either in jail or deceased, and he starts most of his mornings by emailing his friends and relatives who are in prison. Overcoming the unimaginable as he explains how he went from catching a criminal case at 11 years old, to juvenile detention to playing one year of college basketball before being drafted in the first round by the San Antonio Spurs. Discussing his NBA journey and reflecting on lessons learned, Dejounte shares how instrumental his time was with the Spurs, specifically Coach Popovich, who was more than a coach and served as his first real father-figure guiding him through the ups and downs of life. He talked about the pressure of being a young player in a storied franchise, the complexities of team dynamics, transitioning to the Atlanta Hawks, dealing with injuries, setbacks and now trying to navigate life and basketball playing with the New Orleans Pelicans, his latest NBA home. Ryan gets into the growth and maturity sides of life, as Dejounte is unique in he doesn't drink, do drugs, party and very rarely seen outside in a public setting. Committed to his family, being a father and the game he loves so much, Dejounte isn't willing to risk any outside factor messing up this gift of life outside what he used to know and doesn't want anything to interfere with his healing. A heart-wrenching conversation at times, but one definitely worth listening to as Dejounte's courage to open up on overcoming life-changing obstacles, and the pivotal moments that shaped his path to success, will impact you in ways you never thought possible. This is more than a sports story—it’s a story of resilience, redemption, and rising above. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more unfiltered conversations every week. Thank you to our friends at Monarch Money for sponsoring this episode, Check them out here and use code PIVOT to get 50% off your first year. https://www.monarchmoney.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“What story are you living and what story are you leaving.” DeLand McCullough In this powerful Father’s Day special of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan, Fred, and Channing sit down with Super Bowl-winning coach DeLand McCullough for one of the most incredible and inspiring conversations about family and faith. Known for his work on the field, DeLand opens up about the deeply personal journey off the field that reshaped his life — discovering his biological father as an adult and learning how that revelation changed his understanding of identity, fatherhood, and destiny. It’s the kind of story you’d think was scripted in Hollywood — a man at birth grows up never knowing his biological family, becomes a star athlete and championship coach, and then, in a twist no screenwriter could invent, discovers that the mentor who helped shape his football journey is actually his biological father. It’s a full-circle moment filled with fate, family, and rejuvenation — a real-life ‘long-lost father’ story that doesn’t just tug at your heartstrings, it rewrites them. Through candid reflection and heartfelt honesty, he talks about what it means to be a father — to his own sons, including those following in his football footsteps — and how the lessons he's learned have molded the man he is today. This isn’t just a conversation about football — it’s about the bonds that define us, the stories we carry, and the choices we make that can break generational cycles and that faith is real if you allow it to lead you. We get into all the hows, the whys and whats but for more detailed perspective, check out DeLand's book- Runs In The Family, for a written adaptation of his story, one that seems fiction but as real as it comes.  Tune in and Pivot with purpose on this day, as we celebrate Father’s Day with a story that will move you, inspire you, and remind you of the strength in every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Playing in the NFL is a privilege and if you don't take advantage of that privilege, you are going to lose it in a heartbeat." Jack Jones NFL Free Agent In this powerful and unfiltered episode of The Pivot Podcast, NFL free agent Jack Jones joins Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder to speak candidly about the road less traveled — a path marked by talent, turbulence, and turning points. Once a highly touted prospect with game-changing potential, Jack’s NFL journey has been anything but smooth. From academic ineligibility at USC and legal trouble in college, to his surprising rise with the Patriots and a second chance in Las Vegas, Jack opens up like never before. Known for his electric plays and having some of his best games against the league's best in Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert...Jack is ready to get back on the field and show the world he's still that guy. With free agency looming and a chip on his shoulder, Jack talks about how he’s stayed mentally tough, why he believes his best football is still ahead of him, and what it’s really like trying to rebuild a reputation in a league that doesn’t wait for anyone. He shares how poor decisions nearly derailed his career, the humbling reality of being waived, and how public criticism and personal reflection forced him to mature. Jack talks about the emotional toll of being misunderstood, the pressure of growing up fast in the NFL spotlight, and the accountability he’s had to develop as a man off the field. Growing up in Long Beach had its fair share of challenges but having Snoop, a musical and cultural icon, be a mentor and leader in his football league, he understood that having a strong support system is what keeps you grounded.  This isn’t just a football conversation — it’s about ownership, self-awareness, and rebuilding from the inside out. With his future in the league uncertain, Jack discusses how he’s training harder than ever, shifting his mindset, and why he’s now focused not just on proving people wrong, but proving himself right. If you’re looking for an honest conversation about growth, second chances, and the hard lessons that shape real change — this one’s for you. Don't forget to subscribe and comment! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"These five words changed everything: It All Starts With You." Trent Shelton June is Men’s Mental Health Month, and on our platform, that means leaning into the tough conversations—asking the hard questions that may be uncomfortable, but are necessary for real change. Sometimes, all it takes is one honest moment, one powerful story, to shift a mindset or spark a breakthrough. In this special episode, we sit down with former NFL player turned motivational force and social media phenomenon, Trent Shelton, for a raw, honest, and deeply necessary dialogue about the emotional struggles many men face behind closed doors. Joined by Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor, Trent shares his powerful journey—from chasing NFL dreams to losing his sense of self, battling depression, and ultimately rediscovering purpose through pain. He opens up about the crushing pressure to appear strong, the stigma around vulnerability, and how real strength lies not in silence, but in healing. Trent recounts the darkest moment in his life—when he nearly gave up—and how one glimmer of hope helped him fight his way back. Together, the guys chat about life after sports, identity crises, the importance of mental health, and how Trent transformed his lowest point into a movement with his powerful message: “It’s Rehab Time.” Inspired by the tragic loss of a close friend to suicide, Trent turned pain into purpose, creating a platform for healing and growth. The episode takes an even more personal turn as Channing opens up about grieving the loss of his father, Fred reflects on the weight of quiet moments, and Ryan shares his thoughts on life’s next chapter. The conversation is unfiltered, vulnerable, and incredibly moving—a testament to the power of speaking truth, facing pain, and finding strength through faith, family, and brotherhood. Whether you're an athlete, a father, or a man struggling in silence—this conversation is for you. We all have had pivotal moments and know others going through it, we hope this episode serves as a beacon of light for anyone who may need it. Subscribe for more pivotal conversations and drop a comment to let us know what you think. Thank you to our friends and partners at KaChava for sponsoring this episode. Go to ⁠⁠https://kachava.com⁠⁠ and use code PIVOT for 15% off on their subscription for a limited time. Get a free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/pivot. Thanks to ShipStation for supporting this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Find the positive. The devil doesn’t sleep and that’s what is sneaking into your mind so when I say F the outside haters, F your inside haters too and know who you are.” Channing Crowder It's another three-man Friday and Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder are breaking down all the big sports storylines and trending topics that have us all talking! This unfiltered conversation keeping it 100 as always speaking from the heart and our own experiences. NFL and NBA Updates: Deion Sanders' reaction to Shedeur's draft fall out, Stephen Curry's revelation, Stefon Diggs' offseason, Lebron and Luka's recent comments. Trending Topics: Discussing current events and cultural moments making headlines today such as youth sports burnout, imposter syndrome, mental health, younger dating trends and more. Personal Insights: Sharing personal stories and experiences that offer a unique perspective on the sports world. June is Men's Mental Health Month and with recent passing of Sports Science host, John Brenkus, Channing says no evaluation of money or success dictates what goes on inside someone while Ryan talks about how being tough isn't always the best tool, but rather strength can be found in vulnerability, failure and growth. Whether you're a die-hard sports fan or just tuning in for the engaging discussions, this episode promises to deliver thought-provoking content and plenty of laughs as we break it all down for you heading into thee weekend! 🔔 Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes of The Pivot Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices