How To Market Marketing Internally with Steve Stano, B2B & SaaS Marketing Leader at Morgan Stanley | Ep. 331

Marketing is easy to understand as a Marketer, duh. But to other departments (like Finance, Ops, Sales, etc.), it can be hard to get them to understand WHY your company needs Marketing.  Enter: Steve Stano, a Marketing leader in the financial services space. Sure, not everyone is a Marketer, but he’s here to break down how you can get everyone on board, in the loop, and up to date about what Marketing can do.  What does data have to do with it? Turns out, data should be the reason you do anything. You need the numbers to back it up. And as Marketers, it’s our job to paint the picture so others understand why we do things.  Plus, what’s smarter ABM? We talk about how account-based marketing tactics are evolving based on buying signals and behavior. Whether you’re a Marketer at a large company or at a startup, this is the episode for you.  Follow Steve: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestano/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Influencer marketing isn’t just for DTC anymore and Sarah Adam is here to prove it.  As the force behind Wix’s growing B2B influencer strategy, Sarah shares how she built a program from scratch to scale, working with hundreds of creators across LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok, and more. And, there’s something that most B2B marketers get wrong about influencer campaigns, why a good brief should actually be brief, and how to think about cost-per-view in an opaque market where creators set the rules.  Plus, we find out how Wix measures success, selects creators, balances creative freedom with brand guardrails, and manages long-term partnerships…all without over-engineering or over-scripting. Whether you’re an influencer marketer looking for some new strategies or working on your first creator campaign, this is the episode for you. Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/1sarahadam/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Do waitlists even matter to customers anymore? Or are they a waste of time? Daniel says it depends, but basically, lists are important in marketing. Getting email addresses of important people (including people that are interested in your brand) should always be a priority. But, there are some instances where a wait list wouldn’t make sense, like a free virtual event. Jay and Daniel talk about building hype…and what to do when that hype gets busted.   Plus, what’s the biggest hacks in DTC vs. B2B SaaS? One is using the term “sold out” for social proof and the other is beta access. The OG upsell has always been a long line. How do you do that with a virtual service or product? This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is all about waiting…and waiting…and more waiting. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Last year, I sat down with Marco Steinsieck, the Head of Retail Media at Sephora, ⁠⁠to break down everything retail media. The significance of retail media, its impact on search, social, TV, even how it’s becoming a CRUCIAL tool for Marketers to build customer relationships - this episode touches on it all. See how Marco starts a retail media campaign, chooses the right products and audience, and learn the difference between endemic and non-endemic advertising.  I had a blast chatting with Marco, and you’ll have a blast learning from him. Follow Marco: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcosteinsieck/⁠    Follow Daniel: YouTube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter:⁠ https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing⁠   Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠   Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com

It’s time to talk about customer and market segmentation - no math needed. For now, at least. What exactly is the MAP framework? Tamara breaks it down. It stands for measure volume, analyze performance, and prioritize potential, so you can determine who your highest-potential customers are. It helps you focus your marketing tactics and shape your roadmaps.  But what does measuring volume even mean? Daniel reveals that a lot of Marketers have an idea of what their ideal customer is, but the customers who are sharing the best signals may be completely different.  Plus, Tamara gives a real-life example about an AI-powered project and how she and her team determined whether their customers were valuable in the long run.  If you’re a Marketer who wants to know more about MAP and segmentation, this is the episode for you…And it’s only 13 minutes long. ⌛ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Do testimonials and reviews actually sway people’s opinions of your product?  According to Daniel, you NEED social proof on your website, and Jay agrees. But you don’t want anything generic because it’ll sound weird and forced. Instead, you’ll want testimonials that are specific. Think: “This product cut our costs down by 150%,” or something similar. You want to show impact.  Also, what do your logos and landing pages look like? Make sure it matches your client. Daniel mentions thinking about targeting in tiers. You’ll also want to consider what your customers care about, and not just the fluff.  Plus, should you pretend an unfunny text is funny? Jay tests it on Daniel.  This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is all about social proof and reviews. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What does it take to create $100 million in incremental pipeline in a single year? Kyle Coleman, Global VP of Marketing at ClickUp, unpacks his mission to help the company reach $1B in ARR and why “normal f***ing sucks” might be the best company value he’s ever worked under. From his start as an SDR to becoming a two-time CMO, Kyle shares lessons on category design, uniting sales and marketing, and creating demand in a saturated AI-hyped world.  Plus, what’s ClickUp’s “No Lead Left Behind” initiative all about? Kyle breaks it down, along with how to productize a horizontal platform, why brand awareness makes or breaks regional sales success, and how to build strategic messaging that resonates.  Whether you’re scaling a PLG motion or trying to land 7-figure enterprise deals, this is the episode for you.  ActiveCampaign⁠⁠ turns your ambition into impact by orchestrating your marketing through Active Intelligence and AI agents - powering your imagination with billions of data points, activating fully-realized campaigns and strategies from your ideas, and validating what works - so you can drive real results. Follow Kyle: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyletcoleman/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Price is a form of psychology all on its own…but how do you determine how much your product should cost? You know how some brands will base product price off of what their competitors are doing? Or how some just throw a price out there? Tamara has a hot take: neither of these are good strategies. So, Daniel brings up some points: validation and pressure testing.  Plus, Tamara shares the  Van Westendorp Pricing Test, a framework she insists is perfect for Marketers. Basically, it takes customer acceptance and perception into account. How much is their willingness to pay when researching your product? What type of value does your product offer them?  ActiveCampaign⁠ turns your ambition into impact by orchestrating your marketing through Active Intelligence and AI agents - powering your imagination with billions of data points, activating fully-realized campaigns and strategies from your ideas, and validating what works - so you can drive real results. Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

It’s no secret that AI is super helpful. But how do Daniel and Jay use it? It’s more than just about asking ChatGPT questions or telling it to summarize blocks of text. In Daniel’s case, he uses it to repurpose podcast transcripts into multiple forms of content. (Work smarter, not harder, besties.) It’s a great way to experiment with different formats and tones depending on who your audience is.  Jay mentions you can even use it to optimize your website. What’s the difference between engine optimization and SEO? How do you get your website to pop up the way you want it to? He breaks it down…and even says it’s the #1 thing to focus on.  Plus, what do they think of Love Island’s format? Like AI, it can be A LOT.  This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is all about using AI to your advantage. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What are the key qualities of a successful community, and how can businesses effectively build and nurture them?  In this episode, Daniel interviews David Spinks, a community-building expert, to explore the world of community management. They discuss the importance of organic growth, the qualities to look for in a community manager, and the competitive advantage a strong community can provide for a brand.  How can in-person experiences complement online interactions? David shares his thoughts on the significance of online and offline engagement and explains the different types of communities that are vital to your brand game plan.  And later, he and Daniel explore how focusing on joy and genuine connection when building a community is more valuable than any metric measurement.     Follow David: Website: ⁠https://davidspinks.com⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidspinks/   Follow Daniel: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing⁠   Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:  ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠   Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com⁠