From Ethics to Action: Navigating Australia’s Tranche 2 AML Reforms

Welcome to the Eight Mindsets Podcast with Nicole Rose and her co host Jason Meer, where Nicole and Jason delve into the Eight Mindsets that bring about great compliance leadership. In this episode, Nicole goes solo with AML expert Wendy Hitchins to break down Australia’s Tranche 2 AML/CTF reforms—what’s changing, who’s affected (lawyers, accountants, real estate agents), and what you need to do right now to be compliant by 1 July 2026.Key takeaways:Understand designated servicesLearn about suspicious matter reportingWhy ethics and systems matter more than everWhat happens if you don’t comply🔗 Want to go deeper?Sign up for our complimentary AML & Ethics webinar:https://www.arevolution.org/aml-ethics-webinar

Welcome to The Eight Mindsets Podcast with Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer.In this episode, we sit down with Tom Hardin—better known as Tipper X, the former hedge fund analyst who became one of the most prolific informants in securities fraud history. Tom wore a wire for the FBI and helped expose 20 of Wall Street’s biggest players.But this isn’t just a story about headlines—it’s about real human drivers, resilience, and the lessons compliance leaders and managers need to hear. Tom shares what truly drove his decisions (spoiler: it wasn’t financial), what it was like to wear a wire, and why “even the best compliance training wouldn’t have stopped me.We unpack:What would have stopped himPractical advice for improving compliance trainingThe human cost of misconductThe path from scandal to speaking globally on ethics and riskHis new book, Wired on Wall StreetThis episode is a must-listen for sales teams, executives in high-risk environments, compliance professionals, and front-line employees who want to understand how small decisions can snowball into massive consequences. 

This episode is an exclusive reading from Nicole's book, TOLD: How In-House Legal and Compliance Professionals Secure Airtime, Gain Traction, and Transform Organizations.Compliance professionals know all about Know Your Customer (KYC)—but what about Know Your Audience (KYA)? If your policies and training are being ignored, it’s not because they aren’t important—it’s because they aren’t connecting.🚀 In this episode, I read from Chapter 1 and cover:The missing focus in compliance—why policies and training often fail.A real-life story of how a single text message revealed a compliance blind spot.How AIM (Audience Initiated Messaging) and Reverse Empathy can transform compliance training.The difference between adequate and effective compliance—and why most programs fall short.📖 Want to read ahead? To get early access to the book and the course, get on the list https://untoldcompliance.com/told-book/To attend the session Nicole is running at the end of March (25 UK and 26 Australia) Measuring Compliance Effectiveness (there are two session) you can register at https://www.riskywomen.org/2025/02/rev-up-measuring-compliance-effectiveness-online-26-mar-2025/

In this episode of the Eight Mindsets Podcast, Nicole shares the introduction to her new book titled "Told: How in-house Legal and Compliance Professionals Secure Airtime, Gain Traction and Transform Organizations ". She shares her philosophy that policies are ineffective in isolation and emphasizes the importance of action. Join Nicole as she shares the introduction in her new book that explores the intersection of effective communication, ethical leadership, and the practical steps needed to implement meaningful change within organizations.To get early access to the book and the course, get on the list https://untoldcompliance.com/told-book/

Beyond Compliance: Ethics – It's Not Meant to Make Things Easier! “In law a man is guilty when he violates the rights of others. In ethics he is guilty if he only thinks of doing so.”   Immanuel Kant  About the podcast: The Eight Mindsets Podcast, hosted by Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance (Australia) and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education (USA), combines legal expertise with creative compliance, ethics and risk insights. The podcast features conversations with organizational leaders, exploring how they navigate real-world challenges using creativity, neuroscience, and ethics and compliance to drive better performance and culture. Our mission is to make legal and compliance topics accessible, empowering leaders to train and communicate more effectively on the issues that matter most to their organizations. About This Episode: In this episode, we sit down with Roderick Noordhoek, Head of the Global Ethics at Rabobank. Together, we explore the critical role of ethics in shaping sustainable business practices, distinguishing it from compliance, and navigating the complexities of global business environments. We discuss The difference between ethics and compliance and why ethics reaches deeper into the heart of an organization. How global organizations balance universal principles with regional cultural, economic, and legal nuances. The challenges of integrating ethics into decision-making without compromising agility or stakeholder trust. Why ethics is essential in driving sustainability, even when the solutions aren’t simple. Insights into fostering meaningful dialogue that aligns business actions with organizational values. What are the Eight Mindsets? The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn. Follow us https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat

About The Eight Mindsets podcast: What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function? The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about. The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States. Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions. About This Episode: In this episode, we sit down with Pav Gill, the whistleblower from the Wirecard scandal, to explore one of the most profound shifts in compliance leadership today. Pav shares his personal journey of exposing Wirecard’s multibillion-dollar fraud, offering invaluable insights into leadership accountability and compliance empowerment. Key insights include: How Wirecard's leadership failures and compliance shortcomings led to its collapse. The importance of creating strong, independent compliance functions that safeguard organizations. Pav's essential advice for legal and compliance teams: stay independent, build strong internal channels, and never compromise on ethics. Pav’s story is a powerful reminder that when compliance is sidelined, ethical blind spots can grow—and why proactive leadership is essential for a healthy corporate culture.   About the Eight Mindsets: The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn. Follow us on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? Part 4: Business and values led compliance with a small c About The Eight Mindsets podcast: What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function? The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about. The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.  Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions. About this series: In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach. Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions:   Has Compliance assumed far too greater a role in our organisations? Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?    Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement?  What alternative approaches should we consider?  How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success?    About the Eight Mindsets: The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn. Follow us on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? Part 3: The Ethics Policy Chronicles About The Eight Mindsets podcast: What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function? The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about. The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.  Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions. About this series: In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach. Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions:   Has Compliance assumed far too greater a role in our organisations? Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?    Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement?  What alternative approaches should we consider?  How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success?    About the Eight Mindsets: The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn. Follow us on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

Part 2 Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? When “Compliance” is a bad word About The Eight Mindsets podcast: What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function? The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about. The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.  Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions. About this series: In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach. Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions:   Has Compliance assumed far to greater a role in our organisations? Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?    Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement?  What alternative approaches should we consider?  How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success?    About the Eight Mindsets: The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn. Follow us on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

Part 1 Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? A Multicultural Approach to Ethics About The Eight Mindsets podcast: What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function? The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about. The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.  Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions. About this series: In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach. Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions:   Has Compliance assumed far too greater a role in our organisations? Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?    Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement?  What alternative approaches should we consider?  How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success?    About the Eight Mindsets: The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn. Follow us on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.