Phil Freelon

In the season finale, history buff and Bowery Boys podcast co-host Greg Young sits down with Zoe and Asad to chat about the weird, wild, and wacky relationship between American presidents and New York City.

Tony Award-winning architect David Rockwell, of New York firm Rockwell Group, talks with the Appeal hosts about the magic, quirks, and benefits of designing for the stage and how the theater has transformed his thinking about his work in other categories.

San Francisco Bay Area housing policy advocate and tech writer Kim-Mai Cutler sits down with the Appeal to talk about race, class, the tech boom, and a regional affordability crisis.

Interior designer Nicole Gibbons joins the Appeal hosts to chat about her career trajectory, her Oprah Winfrey Network show, and what it's like to be a woman of color working in the racially-exclusive world of interior design.

Curbed's L.A.-based Urbanism editor, Alissa Walker, joins the Appeal hosts to talk infrastructure and the election, living car-free in the car-loving City of Angels, and the future of transportation in the U.S.

Amy Auscherman has the job design nerds dream of: archivist for furniture powerhouse Herman Miller. Amy joins the Appeal hosts to chat about what an archivist does, why the company needs one, and how the notoriously careful set designers of Mad Men once got it wrong.

Aminatou Sow—co-host of the podcast Call Your Girlfriend, digital strategist, and all around Internet badass—sits down with the Appeal hosts to talk about what it means to make a home online, seasonal dressing for your bed, and why San Francisco isn't a real city.

Phil Freelon, one of the architects behind the new National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington, D.C., joins the Appeal hosts to talk about the long-awaited museum's design and the importance of its place on the National Mall.

Filmmaker Gary Hustwit talks to the Appeal hosts about virtual reality in documentary cinema, post-Olympics infrastructure, and how his movie Helvetica made typeface lovers out of laypeople.

In the first episode of season 2 of the Appeal, Asad and Zoe sit down with designer Karim Rashid, the man Time Magazine once described as the "most famous industrial designer in all the Americas.” Rashid discusses his controversial love of color, his ideas on tech in design, his resistance to historical influences, and more.