86. The Art of Living, Leading, and Letting Go with Jaime McKenna

In Part 2 of this masterclass conversation, former Navy SEAL and leadership architect Rich Diviney returns to go deeper into the strategies behind his new book The Masters of Uncertainty—and delivers real, actionable frameworks for leaders who want to scale, perform, and lead better under pressure.Dwayne and Rich explore how to literally reduce fear using a neuroscience-backed process called Moving Horizons, how to train your brain to handle chaos like a SEAL, and how to architect team trust with the 4 C’s of Trust framework. From building high-performance cultures to instilling behavior-based identity in teams, this episode is packed with takeaways for any business owner, leader, or parent navigating complexity.Timestamps:00:00 – Intro to Moving Horizons: Why the brain craves certainty02:00 – The DPO framework: Duration, Pathway, Outcome05:30 – Real-world example: SEAL training and horizon-setting07:00 – Using cold plunges to practice focus under stress09:00 – Coaching children using horizon-picking11:30 – The neuroscience of dopamine, motivation, and why we quit13:00 – How to shift your horizon in real time15:30 – Eliminating fear by narrowing focus18:00 – Learning to appreciate the moment without losing performance21:00 – Can Moving Horizons help with mental health?24:00 – Fear as a risk assessment tool (not something to eliminate)26:00 – Why Part 3 of the book is a surprise gift for entrepreneurs27:30 – Dynamic Subordination: The new leadership model29:30 – Creating trust: The 4 Cs (Competence, Consistency, Character, Compassion)34:00 – How most companies fall short on trust37:30 – Building character and compassion in your culture40:00 – Behavior = the bridge to trust42:30 – Culture values vs. culture behaviors44:30 – How to rewrite company values using “I Am” statements48:00 – Mapping core attributes to job behaviors50:00 – Redefining success as the exploration of human potential53:00 – Final thoughts: You're not too busy, you’re stuck in certaintyNotable Quotes:“Fear is not the enemy. It’s a risk assessment tool. The goal is not to eliminate fear—but to work with it.” – Rich Diviney“If you’re too busy, it’s probably because you’re hiding in certainty. That’s the enemy of scale.” – Dwayne Kerrigan“Our goal in life is to use life to explore our potential. That’s the real definition of success.” – Rich Diviney“You can’t make anyone trust you. All you can do is behave in a way that earns it.” – Rich DivineyTools & Resources:Rich Diviney’s assessment & attributes work: www.theattributes.comAssessment tool use promo code KERRIGAN15: https://hub.theattributes.com/The Masters of Uncertainty – https://learn.theattributes.com/mastering-uncertaintyThe Attributes Book (2021) – foundational read on human performance“Moving Horizons” method – how to reduce fear through micro-goalsThe 4 Cs of Trust Framework: Competence, Consistency, Character, CompassionCulture Architecture with “I Am” StatementsDopamine and Motivation: How to manage goal-setting energyActionable Takeaways:Use “Moving Horizons” to reduce overwhelm → Set micro-goals with a defined Duration, Pathway, and Outcome (DPO).Teach your team how to lead themselves → Empower...

In this powerful first installment of a two-part conversation, former Navy SEAL commander and performance expert Rich Diviney returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to discuss his groundbreaking new book, The Masters of Uncertainty.With decades of leadership inside one of the world’s most elite military units, Rich unpacks how we can all perform better under pressure, lead with clarity in chaos, and transform anxiety into purposeful action.Dwayne and Rich dive into the neuroscience behind fear, the underestimated power of identity, and the simple yet potent tools you can use to build teams that scale with integrity. Whether you're a business owner, leader, or high performer—this episode is a masterclass in navigating the unknown with confidence and precision.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome back Rich Diviney02:00 – Why The Masters of Uncertainty had to be written05:40 – The book format that turns ideas into tools07:00 – Life after SEALs: Business, family, and building with purpose11:30 – Humans first: Common ground in conflict zones13:30 – The irony of great leadership: Make yourself obsolete16:00 – From Navy SEALs to CEO: The universal language of leadership18:10 – The language of performance and the power of attributes20:00 – Scaling wisely: Patience vs. pressure in entrepreneurship26:00 – The psychology of transition & identity33:00 – “I AM” statements and their impact on behavior37:00 – Why we freeze, panic, or procrastinate40:00 – The science of fear: Uncertainty + Anxiety48:00 – The “Physiological Sigh” and open-gaze breathing53:00 – Cold plunges, breathwork, and nervous system mastery57:00 – Teaser: What to expect in Part 2Notable Quotes:“Leadership is about creating the environment where your team can outrun you.” – Rich Diviney“When the shit hits the fan, personality goes out the window. That’s when attributes take over.” – Rich Diviney“True confidence is knowing that when uncertainty hits, I’ll figure it out—and I’m okay.” – Rich Diviney“Most people are not aware of how driven they are by the need for certainty. That’s what holds them back.” – Dwayne KerriganResources & Tools Mentioned:Rich Diviney’s assessment & attributes work: www.theattributes.comAssessment tool use promo code KERRIGAN15: https://hub.theattributes.com/The Masters of Uncertainty – https://learn.theattributes.com/mastering-uncertaintyThe Attributes Book (2021) – foundational read on human performancePhysiological Sigh (breathwork tool) – Explained in Andrew Huberman’s workOpen-gaze technique – A tool for reducing autonomic arousal instantlyTop Takeaways for Business Leaders:Uncertainty + Anxiety = Fear→ Break the cycle by managing one or both.The Identity Shift Matters→ Retire old “I AM” statements that no longer serve you. Choose new ones consciously.Breath and Vision Are Performance Tools→ Use the “physiological sigh” and panoramic vision to reset your nervous system.Attributes > Personality in Stress→ Know how your team shows up under pressure, not just how they act when it’s easy.Great Leadership is Scalable→ Teach a language of performance so others can lead with the same clarity and...

In this dynamic Part 2 episode, entrepreneur and growth strategist Swish Goswami returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to explore the cutting edge of AI, data ethics, and leading with intention in an unpredictable world.From the growing tension between privacy and innovation to the responsibility of the next generation of creators, Swish unpacks what it takes to thrive in a digital-first era. He also shares actionable strategies for collecting first-party data, using no-code tools to transform customer engagement, and building authentic, future-ready relationships.It’s a sharp, forward-looking conversation at the intersection of modern marketing, entrepreneurial resilience, and tech-powered growth.https://www.swishgoswami.com/Timestamp Guide:[00:00–03:00] The AI surveillance debate: Is our phone listening—and what happens next?[03:00–07:00] How platforms track behavior, listen for cues, and sell targeted access[07:00–10:00] Why North America lags in privacy laws & what GDPR gets right[10:00–14:00] Marketing in the age of AI: personalization, data, and trust[14:00–19:00] Loyalty programs, event-driven marketing & digital rewards for restaurants[19:00–22:00] Replit & no-code AI platforms: Building smarter, faster, and cheaper[22:00–26:00] Gamifying customer experiences and building public-facing leaderboards[26:00–30:00] AI optimism vs. AI caution: The parental dilemma in a post-ChatGPT world[30:00–35:00] The responsibility of Gen Z and what it really means to take initiative[35:00–38:00] Entrepreneurial mindset tips for teens and why network is everything[38:00–42:00] First-principle thinking, Sunday planning rituals & high-performance habits[42:00–47:00] What stops most people? Risk, fear, failure—and how to reframe them[47:00–50:00] Constant motion: why failing fast and often is a sign you’re doing it rightNotable Quotes:“AI is going to replace repetitive roles—but your ability to think critically, build relationships, and act fast? That’s the real differentiator.” – Swish Goswami“Marketing isn’t about shouting louder. It’s about building a feedback loop between trust, value, and relevance.” – Swish GoswamiFeatured Resources & Tools:Replit – No-code AI platform for loyalty cards, gamification, and business apps: https://replit.comTypeform (AI Survey Builder) – https://www.typeform.comGoogle Veo 3 (Video Gen) – AI video generation tool for onboarding & content11 Labs (AI Voice Cloning) – Hyper-realistic audio generation: https://elevenlabs.ioGleam.io (Giveaway Engine) – Smart sweepstakes & lead generation platform: https://gleam.ioGDPR Overview – The global gold standard in data protection: https://gdpr.euKey Takeaways:Businesses should start collecting first-party data now—email, SMS, and engagement tracking are the foundation of future-proof marketing.Use no-code...

In this powerhouse Part 1 conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with Swish Goswami—serial entrepreneur, public speaker, and Head of Growth at Parallel Studios—to uncover what it really takes to build, scale, and sell companies in today’s hyper-evolving landscape.From co-founding the data-forward tech company Surf (acquired in 2025), to leading global growth for sci-fi gaming empire Parallel Studios, Swish shares deeply candid insights on strategic marketing, leadership evolution, the future of AI in games, and building community-led brands that scale with trust. Whether you're a startup founder, a growth strategist, or simply obsessed with the intersection of tech, storytelling, and data—you’ll walk away with a new framework for action.https://www.swishgoswami.com/Timestamp Breakdown:[00:00–02:00] Swish’s philosophy on uncertainty and embracing the mystery of life[02:00–06:00] From public speaking to startup exits—Swish’s journey and intro to Parallel[06:00–10:00] What is Parallel Studios? The origin story, universe building, and IP strategy[10:00–14:00] Building a multi-platform franchise from comics to games to film[14:00–18:00] Growth mindset: From objective-first to understanding user behavior[18:00–22:00] The Parallel marketing playbook: giveaways, influencers, events, ads[22:00–26:00] Cutting channels that don’t convert + redefining what “working” really means[26:00–30:00] Vanity metrics vs. business results and why Swish cut all outsourced agencies[30:00–35:00] Hiring freelancers, testing AI tools, and doing the gritty work yourself[35:00–38:00] The untapped power of word-of-mouth and referral marketing[38:00–45:00] Data ethics, transparency, and the revolutionary Surf browser extension[45:00–50:00] Turning data into customer value without crossing privacy lines[50:00–51:00] Preview of Part 2: AI tools, risk-taking, and scaling smart in a shifting economyNotable Quotes:“You don’t have to be everywhere. Do it yourself first—even if you fail, you’ll understand what it takes.” – Swish Goswami“Marketing starts with a clear objective. Work backwards. Understand your user. Then choose your channels.” – Swish Goswami“PR won’t convert on its own. But what can you do with PR? That’s the strategy.” – Swish Goswami“The beauty of life is mystery. If there was a button that told me what I’d be doing at 40, I’d never press it.” – Swish GoswamiResources & Mentions: Parallel Studios – Explore the sci-fi universe built on original IP, comics, and gamingThe Young Entrepreneur – Co-authored by Swish Goswami Pangea – Hire vetted marketing freelancers and contractors AppsFlyer – Mobile attribution platform used for tracking campaignsGetLeverage.com & Fiverr – Tools for scaling with freelance supportKey Takeaways:Great marketing doesn’t start with channels—it starts with understanding your user and working backwards from your business goals.Word of mouth and grassroots engagement are still unmatched for long-term traction.Don’t fall for vanity metrics. Test, measure real

In the final installment of our powerful 3-part series, Dwayne welcomes back world-renowned energy healer and spiritual teacher Master Stephen Co for a transformative conversation designed to help high-performing professionals reclaim calm, clarity, and control—especially in the face of emotional chaos.This episode is not just a conversation. It’s a clinic.Master Co walks listeners through a step-by-step energetic technique to move from turmoil to stillness, including live guided visualizations and the Screen Technique—an easy-to-follow method to dissolve emotional patterns, cravings, and even chronic self-doubt.Whether you’re navigating business pressure, burnout, personal pain, or simply seeking peace, this episode equips you with practical tools to clear emotional clutter, access stillness, and take back your power.Timestamps00:00 – Why most people stay stuck in emotional pain02:30 – From chaos to calmness: The 4-stage energetic process07:45 – Identity traps: How thoughts and emotions become “you”10:00 – “I am angry” vs. “I feel angry”: Why language matters15:45 – Confession, color therapy, and violet fire17:20 – The “Screen Technique” demonstration24:45 – Visualizing your new reality with the Golden Screen29:00 – Observing the mind: Meditation for finding the Self35:00 – Who is the observer? A guided experience41:00 – Applying the process in everyday emotional triggers43:00 – How to begin forgiving yourself46:00 – Addiction, repeated patterns, and the importance of help50:00 – A powerful real-life story: Dwayne’s son, emergency healing, and immediate pain relief51:45 – Where to learn more about Pranic HealingNotable Quotes“You are not punished for your anger. You’re punished by your anger.” “Whatever comes after the word ‘I am’ becomes your identity—be careful with it.” “Observe the one who is observing. That’s where your real power lives.” “You created your thoughts and emotions—so you have the power to dissolve them.” “Energy goes where your attention flows. What are you feeding today?”Resources & TakeawaysThe Screen TechniqueFree Meditations & Energy ToolsExplore guided practices: https://masterco.orgLearn More About Pranic HealingFind a practitioner or training: https://pranichealing.comRecommended Book: Your Hands Can Heal You by Master Co & Dr. Eric B. RobinsConnect with Dwayne KerriganFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.comDisclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The

In Part 2 of this profoundly moving conversation, Dwayne sits down again with Master Stephen Co—one of the most influential spiritual teachers in Dwayne's life—for a powerful discussion that stretches beyond business and deep into self-awareness, spiritual discipline, and energetic mastery.Master Co guides listeners through a short but transformative meditation, unpacks the mechanics of stress and healing through the lens of pranic energy, and explains how stillness—not just calmness—is the true gateway to mastering your reactions, relationships, and results in life and business. This is more than a conversation—it’s a shift in perspective.Timestamps &amp; Highlights:[00:01:00] – Why you must listen to Part 1 before diving in[00:02:15] – How stress anchors into your energy system and where it lives[00:05:10] – The power and purpose of violet light in healing[00:08:15] – Meditation is not concentration—here’s the difference[00:13:00] – Guided 2-minute meditation for experiencing stillness[00:19:30] – What it means to meditate and remain awake (and why that matters in business)[00:23:15] – Dwayne shares his real-world transformation through energy work[00:25:00] – You are the thinker—not the thought[00:29:30] – Are we just nothingness? The spiritual physics behind your true identity[00:33:00] – What reincarnation teaches about learning through the body[00:36:45] – Master Co’s mind-blowing take on the ego, and training your emotional horses[00:42:30] – The “three questions” Buddhist practice you can apply in business today[00:45:30] – The ripple effect of healing in leadership and life[00:48:10] – The ultimate bottom line: “Being a good person will always make you come out on top.”Notable Quotes:“You are not your body, not your thoughts, not your emotions. You are the creator of them.” – Master Co“The more time I spend in the stillness, the more I realize I get to choose what I create.” – Master Co“Being a good person is the manifestation of the ‘I’ controlling the three horses—body, thoughts, emotions.” – Master CoKey Takeaways &amp; Resources:Guided Meditation: Experience Master Co’s 2-minute “space between the breath” meditation (13:00 mark) to center your awarenessSelf-Mastery Framework: Identify your true self as the creator of thoughts and emotions—not the passenger of themThe Three-Question Method: Ask:What am I feeling/thinking?Why am I feeling/thinking this?What should be my next thought?Energy Anatomy: Understand how emotional energies lodge in specific chakras and how to clear them using breath and visualizationPractical Spirituality for Business: Learn how daily spiritual hygiene leads to better leadership, calmer decisions, and intentional relationshipsShare the Ripple:This is the episode you share when someone you know is stuck in stress, seeking clarity, or struggling to lead with grace. Forward it. Post it. Let them hear it.Connect with Dwayne KerriganFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/Linked In: <a...

In this of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Dwayne sits down with Master Stephen Co—engineer-turned-global-energy-healer—to discuss how ancient energy healing practices like Pranic Healing® can unlock peak performance, faster recovery, emotional balance, and even business success.Dwayne shares intimate stories of miraculous healing, including a shredded ACL recovery in just five days—no surgery required. Together, they challenge skeptics, unpack the science behind energy work, and offer a practical path for the pragmatic leader. Whether you’re a high-achiever looking for an edge or simply seeking to reconnect with your intuition, this episode will stretch your mind and shift your energy.This is the conversation that changed Dwayne’s life. It might just change yours, too.TIMESTAMPS00:00 | Welcome + Why Master Co is one of Dwayne’s top influences02:00 | From engineer to healer: Master Co’s origin story06:30 | Everything is energy: defining prana, chi, and life force09:30 | The healing that started it all—his wife’s broken hip12:50 | “Life will give you what you’re willing to settle for.”16:00 | Dwayne’s miracle ACL healing story19:30 | Master Co on skeptical beginnings and the power of repetition22:00 | A live demo: How to feel energy between your hands27:30 | Dwayne’s first energetic “push” moment in Hawaii30:00 | Types of energy: Earth, air, spiritual—how to use each one33:00 | Why healthy skepticism is essential in spiritual work36:30 | From side hustle to global teacher: The business side of healing41:00 | How we block our own healing (and success)45:00 | Releasing stored emotional pain in the energy body47:30 | Empowerment vs. dependency: teaching people to heal themselves49:00 | Teaser for Part 2: It gets deeper—bring your bootsNOTABLE QUOTES“Life will give you what you’re willing to settle for.” – Master Co“Healing isn’t a miracle—it’s a method. And everyone can learn it.” – Master Co“My emotional home used to be anger. Energy work reconnected me to my soul.” – Dwayne KerriganRESOURCES &amp; MENTIONSMaster Co’s Books:Your Hands Can Heal YouThe Power of Pranahttps://www.masterco.org/&nbsp;KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR BUSINESS LEADERSPeak performance starts with your energy field. Learn how unblocking emotional and physical energy translates to more clarity, leadership, and connection in your business.Healing isn’t woo—it’s repeatable. Like a recipe, Pranic Healing offers step-by-step protocols grounded in logic and years of results.Your greatest resource is within. Don’t outsource your well-being. Learn to self-regulate, self-heal, and stay energetically aligned.Service creates prosperity. “As you focus on serving others, your own needs will be met.” This principle applies in healing and business.Connect with Dwayne KerriganFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/Linked In: <a...

In this powerhouse follow-up episode, Jaime McKenna, President at Fengate Real Estate, returns to unpack the intersection of leadership, housing economics, and strategic foresight in times of uncertainty. She candidly reflects on navigating imposter syndrome, the true nature of financial literacy, and the real estate crisis threatening Canada’s future. From affordable housing and capital flow challenges to why boring businesses often win — this episode delivers practical, hard-earned wisdom for young professionals, seasoned investors, and business owners alike.Timestamps:00:00 — Opening quote: The master in the art of living01:45 — The power of purpose and leading in male-dominated industries03:00 — Battling imposter syndrome and the myth of the perfect path05:30 — Why flexibility and awareness win in uncertain times07:00 — Moving forward in a spin cycle of rhetoric and judgment10:00 — Capital tightness and real estate development under pressure12:45 — Canada’s looming housing catastrophe: What’s ahead16:00 — Why Fengate shifted from condos to high-rise rental apartments18:45 — Gen Z &amp; Millennials: Renting by choice, not failure22:00 — Real estate vs. luxury consumption: A Chanel purse lesson26:30 — Three levels of housing reform Canada urgently needs29:00 — The broken municipal approval system and hidden costs33:00 — Is now the time to buy condos? The case for discounted inventory39:00 — Investing strategies: Seniors housing, data centers, industrial space42:00 — Apartment cap rates explained — and how to win with vanilla investments49:00 — Renovate vs. build: When spiffing up isn’t worth the risk53:00 — How tariffs and global instability are reshaping the market56:30 — The danger of complacency and Canada’s productivity dilemma1:03:00 — Is a majority government the only way forward?1:09:00 — The final word on resilience, leadership, and gratitude for the journeyNotable Quotes:“Courage doesn’t mean you know you’ll be right — it means you act anyway.”— Dwayne Kerrigan“The goal isn’t to eliminate problems. The goal is to upgrade the quality of your problems.”— Dwayne Kerrigan“Every square of adversity is a part of the quilt of your life.”— Jaime McKennaKey Takeaways &amp; Resources:Adaptability Over Strength: In today’s market, it’s not survival of the fittest — it’s survival of the most flexible.Imposter Syndrome Is Universal: Even top executives question their path. Keep building, one block at a time.Now is the Window: With capital tight and developers frozen, long-term thinkers can seize undervalued condo opportunities.Housing: From Crisis to Catastrophe: Supply is frozen while demand climbs. The next 3–5 years may be pivotal.Boring Wins: Apartments and industrial space may lack flash but offer stability and strategic growth.Real Estate ≠ Quick Cash: Real value lies in patience, planning, and resisting shiny object syndrome.Connect with Dwayne KerriganLinked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/ Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

In this deeply candid and inspiring Part 1 of their conversation, Dwayne sits down with Jaime McKenna — President of Real Estate at Fengate Asset Management — for a raw, no-filter look at what it takes to go from near-poverty to managing billions. Jaime shares the deeply personal story of losing everything in her university years, climbing out of debt, overcoming imposter syndrome, and redefining leadership in a high-stakes, male-dominated industry. If you’ve ever doubted your path or wondered how top leaders push forward through fear, shame, and uncertainty — this is your episode.Timestamps:00:00 — Why Jaime shares her story: The power of shedding shame02:00 — A breakdown of Jaime’s career and early hardships05:00 — The root of her humility and difficulty with compliments09:30 — How fear of scarcity became fuel for her success14:30 — Tuna cans, $7 haircuts &amp; the truth behind survival mode18:00 — Baby steps, big vision: The method behind her comeback23:00 — Creating vision when no one else is coaching you26:00 — Studying for a CPA with VHS tapes &amp; Swiss Chalet30:00 — Why discipline is the real secret weapon (not motivation)34:00 — Work-life integration, not balance38:00 — Vulnerability and the power of human leadership44:00 — What Jaime looks for when building elite teams50:00 — Leadership through transitions and letting people go55:00 — Be nice, be direct: How to lead with both heart and clarity1:03:00 — Real workaholism vs. the art of joyful, purposeful work1:08:00 — The power of breathwork and managing internal pressure1:18:00 — Jaime’s battle with anxiety after the loss of her mom1:28:00 — Rebuilding mentally, emotionally, and spiritually1:35:00 — Rewriting identity, leading with heart, and shedding the labelsNotable Quotes:“That fear of having nothing never left me — and it still drives me today.” — Jaime McKenna“If you’re not uncomfortable, you’re not growing. That’s your cue to step up.” — Jaime McKenna“Discipline isn’t punishment. It’s a gift. It’s how I get my freedom.” — Jaime McKenna&nbsp;Key Takeaways &amp; Resources:Jaime’s story shows that a successful life and career can be built without family wealth or connections — but it takes relentless discipline.Massive transformation begins with small, consistent steps — not instant miracles.Jaime outworked, out-disciplined, and outlasted many who may have started with more.The most effective leaders are those willing to show their human side.Jaime’s breakdown after her mother’s death led to a breakthrough that reshaped her approach to leadership.Connect with Dwayne KerriganLinked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.comDisclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those

In Part 2 of this candid global conversation, Karl Tabbakh returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to pull back the curtain on the economic uncertainty that’s gripping both Canada and the U.S.—and what business leaders need to do about it.Dwayne and Karl dissect the real cost of tariffs, the psychological divide between the “haves” and “have nots,” and what a future recession could mean for Canadian competitiveness. They challenge leaders to rethink productivity, wealth distribution, and their own growth mindset in a time of instability.From political coalitions to personal responsibility, Karl doesn’t hold back. If you’re in business today, this episode is your compass in the chaos.Timestamps[00:01:00] – The danger of coalitions and the question of democratic representation[00:04:30] – Program creation vs. program funding: Canada’s economic blind spot[00:08:30] – Do we have the GDP to fund the lifestyle we promise?[00:10:00] – Why Canada’s mindset around growth is dangerously passive[00:13:30] – Who really pays the tariffs—and why they’re hidden taxes[00:17:30] – Are tariffs a strategy or political theatre? Dissecting Trump’s leverage[00:24:00] – The “Somewheres” vs. “Nowheres”: Stephen Harper’s cultural divide explained[00:27:00] – The information echo chamber: Why we don’t see disruption coming[00:29:00] – Education, taxation, and why we must fix the divide[00:36:00] – Capitalism’s existential threat: What happens when the system loses balance[00:43:30] – CEO pay, productivity, and compensation in a modern economy[00:48:00] – Catching a falling knife: Should you invest in uncertain times?[00:52:00] – When clarity returns, capital will too: Preparing for the rebound[00:57:00] – The world is better than you think—but you have to choose that lens[00:59:00] – Final message: Educate yourself. Lead with purpose. Elevate others.About Karl TabbakhKarl Tabbakh is a lawyer, a business leader and a strategic advisor with over 20 years of international business experience. Karl’s expertise is sought after to advise corporations, directors and business executives on a range of strategic issues and transactions both domestically and globally. He is a partner at McCarthy Tétrault LLP with a focus on M&amp;A and private equity and serves on the firm’s Senior Leadership Team as National Leader, Markets and International Business. He was appointed by the Government of Canada as Chairman of Invest in Canada, Canada’s agency responsible for promoting, attracting and facilitating global foreign direct investments into Canada. He previously served as Chair of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce and was on the Board of directors of the Canada Arab Business Council. Karl is a regular speaker on matters of governance, global investment and mergers and acquisitions. In addition to his career in Canada, Karl spent eight years in the Middle East and four years in London, UK, where he developed a solid international network and gained an understanding of international business and investments. An active community leader, Karl supports and leverages his network to benefit many non-profit and local community service organizations, including as member of the Centraide/United Way campaign. Born in Syria, Karl immigrated with his parents to Canada at age 10. He holds an LLB from Osgoode Hall Law School in Toronto, a BCL from the Université de Montréal and a B.Comm from Université Laval in Québec City. Karl is fluent in French, English, and Arabic.Notable Quotes“Imposing a tariff isn’t tax revenue. It’s a