#40 Children ‘speak’ their family: Therapeutic Work with Parents Helps Therapy with Children

----more----In this podcast based on her presentation to The Therapeutic Consultants in the UK, Dr. Ruth Schmidt Neven child psychotherapist and clinical psychologist brings her longstanding expertise as a clinician, author and trainer to elaborate on the importance of therapeutic work with parents when addressing children’s problems.

In this podcast, Dr. Ruth Schmidt Neven child and adolescent psychotherapist and clinical psychologist talks with Dr. Eva Crasnow and Dr. Sarah Peter, UK based child and adolescent psychotherapists and co-founders of the social enterprise Chorus, which provides therapeutic group work to young children and their parents. Chorus was the winner of the 2024 Association of Infant Mental Health best practice award for their Zero to Toddler group for adopted toddlers and their parents.

In this episode of Talking Child Development, Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks with Tracy Christophi. Tracy is a child and adolescent psychotherapist originally from the UK but now based in Western Australia. In her earlier career as a mental health nurse specialist, Tracy has firsthand experience of the devastating impact of traumatic early experience on later childhood and adolescence. Tracy is passionate about helping children and young people who have experienced relational and developmental trauma. She has written a brief guide for parents and carers to help them understand complex trauma and its effects on children. https://childpsychotherapyperth.com.au/2025/06/02/supporting-children-after-trauma/

In this podcast Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks with Matt Tyler. Matt is the executive director of the Men’s Project at Jesuit Social Services in Melbourne. He works with a team committed to reducing violence, preventing sexual abuse and supporting men and boys to flourish. Through leading research, including the Man Box Project, these findings are translated into practice in the community.

In this episode, Dr. Ruth Schmidt Neven talks to Vannie Ip-Winfield, a Registered Music Therapist and Vice-President of the Music and Imagery Association of Australia.  Originally trained in classical piano, Vannie has used her skills in music therapy and psychotherapy for over 20 years in a wide range of settings, including an Early Parenting Unit, part of an Allied Health Team, in adult psychiatry and in aged care. Ip-Winfield, V, Grocke, D. (2021). Virtual Group Music and Imagery (Grp MI) with healthcare staff during the COVID-19 pandemic in Melbourne. Australian Journal of Music Therapy, 32 (1), 97-111 Shoemark, Helen. (2017). Time Together: A Feasible Program to Promote parent-infant Interaction in the NICU. Music Therapy Perspectives. 36. 10.1093/mtp/mix004.

In this episode, Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks with Dr. Maria Papadima and Catherine Campbell. Maria and Catherine are both UK-based child and adolescent psychotherapists who have developed a successful time-limited model of working with adolescents and their parents in an NHS adolescent crisis team. Their time-limited model considers a crisis as a developmental opportunity that underlies the centrality of parent involvement as part of the therapeutic endeavour. Their paper in the Journal of Child Psychotherapy describing their pilot study is listed as one of the top ten read papers in the Journal and gives hope to professionals working in this challenging field. Papadima, M. Campbell C. et al.  Brief Psychodynamic psychotherapy for adolescents and their families in crisis: A pilot study. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0075417X.2024.2414736   Psychoanalytic Crisis Work with Adolescents: An Independent Approach (In Press) https://www.routledge.com/Adolescence-in-Crisis-An-Independent-Psychoanalytic-Approach-to-Adolescent-Mental-Health/Papadima-Acheson-Tzikas/p/book/9781032972237  Acheson, R. & Papadima, M. (2023). The search for identity: Working therapeutically with adolescents in crisis. Journal of Child Psychotherapy,  49(1), 95-119.

In this episode, Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks to Rhonda Galbally. They discuss her hugely distinguished career as a tireless advocate for disability reform, starting from her own personal experience and including her roles as a disability Royal Commissioner and on the Board of the Disability Insurance Scheme. Rhonda has also been at the forefront of reform with respect to health, welfare and mental health through the development of the Health Issues Centre, as the inaugural chief executive of the Victorian Health Promotion Foundation and as a Ministerial Adviser. The official DRC website DRC Volume 7 online: https://disability.royalcommission.gov.au/publications/final-report-volume-7-inclusive-education-employment-and-housing   Recommendations and summary PDF link: https://disability.royalcommission.gov.au/system/files/2023-09/Final%20Report%20-%20Volume%207%2C%20Inclusive%20education%2C%20employment%20and%20housing%20-%20Summary%20and%20recommendations.pdf   Education: https://disability.royalcommission.gov.au/system/files/2023-09/Final%20Report%20-%20Volume%207%2C%20Inclusive%20education%2C%20employment%20and%20housing%20-%20Part%20A.pdf   All Means All website:  https://allmeansall.org.au/

In this episode Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks to Dr. Matthew Roberts. Dr. Roberts is a Melbourne based psychiatrist and psychotherapist clinical teacher and writer, and in this episode, he dives deeper into his extensive experience in perinatal mental health, his trauma informed clinical practice, and his father-inclusive work as one of the founders of the Australian Fatherhood Research Consortium. Dr. Roberts has distilled his learning and clinical experience into a model called CRESTING that stands for Collaborative, Relational, Evolutionary, Somatic, Trauma-Informed Narrative Growth. Australian Fatherhood Research Consortium:  http://mappresearch.org/fatherhood-consortium Richard Fletcher, The Dad Factor: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=buVOYgEACAAJ&source=gbs_book_other_versions Bruce Ecker et al, Unlocking The Emotional Brain: https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Unlocking_the_Emotional_Brain/wSxcEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0 Bessel van der Kolk The Body Keeps The Score: https://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_Body_Keeps_the_Score.html?id=NKOOEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y Daniel Stern The Interpersonal World of the Infant: https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Interpersonal_World_of_the_Infant/MUtWDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0 Donald Winnicott Playing and Reality: https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Playing_and_Reality/JHMdZC08HhcC?hl=en&gbpv=0 For Bowlby, Jeremy Holmes John Bowlby and Attachment Theory: https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/John_Bowlby_and_Attachment_Theory/30HFBQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0   Dr. Roberts’ clinical science communication and social commentary blog: www.mydoctorshandwriting.com Dr. Roberts’ psychotherapy, arts and culture blog: www.thenormalgrownup.com Dr. Roberts’ solitary original sole author paper: https://www.racgp.org.au/afp/2016/august/there-from-the-start-men-and-pregnancy

In this episode, Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks with Dr. Jenifer Wakelyn child and adolescent psychotherapist, author and researcher in the UK. She is the founder of the innovative program Watch me Play! This is an intervention for caregivers and their babies and young children that with the support of a practitioner aims to enhance child development and caregiver relationships by promoting thoughtful individual attention and age-appropriate stimulation. The Watch me Play approach has been manualised and is disseminated across the UK and internationally. References: watchmeplay.info   Book chapter: Wakelyn, J. (2019) ‘Developing an intervention for infants and young children in care: Watch Me Play!’ In: Supporting Vulnerable Babies and Young Children, edited by Wendy Bunston and Sarah Jones (Jessica Kingsley). Book: Wakelyn, J. (2020) Therapeutic Approaches with Babies and Young Children in Care: Observation and Attention (Karnac/Routledge). ISBN 978-1-782-20438-1  Recent paper: Wakelyn, J. (2025) Psychoanalytic aspects of the Watch Me Play! approach: the psychic energy of attention, Infant Observation, DOI:10.1080/13698036.2025.2471778

Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Ruth Schmidt Neven talks with Meena Singh, Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People in Victoria. Meena is a Yorta Yorta and Indian woman, born, raised and living on the land of the Kulin Nations. Meena commenced her legal career with Victoria Legal Aid where she practiced in human rights and criminal law and was the inaugural Asssociate Director Aboriginal Services. She has led legal services and programs at the Victorian Aboriginal Legal Service and the Human Rights Law Centre as well as consulting in training and organisational development.   www.acfd.com.au www.centreforchildandfamily.com