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What if learning to say no is actually the first step toward saying yes to the life you want?

In this episode of She Says It, host Madeline Sargent sits down with Paula Mathias, author, speaker, and creator of The Yes Test, for an honest conversation about setting boundaries, overcoming people-pleasing, finding confidence, and making intentional choices.

After years of navigating career expectations, Paula began questioning why so many women say yes out of guilt, fear, or obligation. She shares the experiences that inspired her work, including a pivotal moment when she found herself shrinking in a boardroom instead of using her voice.

Together, Madeline and Paula explore boundaries in female friendships, advocating for yourself at work, reinventing yourself at any age, and recognizing the value of your own time.

Paula also shares her experience with the 1,000 Rejection Challenge, why she secretly wrote her first book, and how pursuing big dreams requires getting comfortable with uncertainty.

This conversation is a reminder that you're not behind, it's never too late to change direction, and saying no can create space for the life you actually want.

Because your time matters. Your voice matters. And you get to decide what deserves your yes.

Explore The Yes Test

Discover Paula's book, The Yes Test Method, and learn more about her speaking engagements and workshops.

Order the book and discover Paula's website.

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