Ep 80 - Current state of the CLO securitization market

Andrew Lom, US Head of Financial Services and Global Head of Private Wealth in the New York office, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss how tokenization is reshaping asset-backed finance. Andrew shares insights into how the foundational components of tokenization work together to reduce costs, boost transparency and accelerate settlement through near-instant transactions. We also examine the potential impact of the GENIUS Act and CLARITY Act on driving broader adoption of tokenization.

Chris Killian, Managing Director, Corporate Credit and Securitization at SIFMA, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss compliance programs in relation to SEC Rule 192. They focus on the impact of clause (a)(3)(iii) and the SEC’s no-action relief issued on May 16, 2025.Listen and subscribe to the Securitization Insight podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast app.

Pratik Gupta, Managing Director and Head of Global CLOs and US RMBS Strategy at BofA Securities, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss the CLO market, covering the key factors that shaped 2024 and the outlook for 2025. Pratik walks us through how syndicated and private credit is reshaping the landscape, the growth of the ETF market and the evolving buyer base.Listen and subscribe to the Securitization Insight podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast app.  

Keith Martin, co-head of projects, United States at Norton Rose Fulbright, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss the recently signed budget reconciliation bill, referred to as the ‘Big Beautiful Bill.’ Keith provides his insight on the implications of the bill, including whether the legislation has accelerated the push to launch renewable energy projects before the deadlines in 2025 and 2026, how changes to technology-neutral tax credits may shift incentives and what the new Foreign Entity of Concern (FEOC) rules mean for sourcing and compliance. We also cover the executive order issued shortly after the bill, examining how stricter enforcement directives may complicate timelines and increase regulatory uncertainty for developers.

Join Christine Dalton, Director, S&P Global and host Patrick Dolan for a deep dive into the growing interest in music securitization. This episode unpacks the music assets involved, the qualities that define strong music investments and the key characteristics of a well-structured securitized pool while also exploring the risks associated with these transactions. We also discuss the potential impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on music valuation and the music industry’s outlook amid global uncertainty.Listen and subscribe to the Securitization Insight podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast app

Derek Moran, Senior Vice President of US RMBS Ratings at Morningstar DBRS, joins host Patrick Dolan to explore home equity sharing agreements, their repayment structures, fees and how they compare to HELOCs. The discussion highlights key risks and increasing regulatory attention under the Trump Administration’s CFPB.Listen and subscribe to the Securitization Insight podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast app.

Fred Perreten, Managing Director of CMBS at KBRA, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss the current landscape of the data center securitization market. We examine the market's performance in 2024, discuss potential shifts in 2025 under the Trump Administration, and break down the ratings criteria that play a role in these unique transactions.Listen and subscribe to the Securitization Insight podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast app.

Rahel Avigdor, Managing Director of Consumer ABS at KBRA, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss trends in auto loan securitizations. Rahel provides her perspective on how the prime and sub-prime auto loan securitization markets performed in 2024, changes she may expect in these markets in 2025 under the Trump Administration, key ratings criteria for rating auto loan securitizations and any new features that she is seeing in auto loan securitizations.

Michael Bright, CEO at Structured Finance Association joins host Patrick Dolan to discus the complexities of GSE reform. We explore key issues including the balance between nurturing the private RMBS market and ending conservatorship, adjustments to loan limits, and restrictions on GSE activities. Fred provides his insight on administrative reform risks, the role of credit risk transfers, capital requirements, government guarantees, and the SEC's oversight on reporting standards.

Alan Todd, CFA, Head of US Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities (CMBS) Research at BofA Securities, joins host Patrick Dolan to discuss the trends and expectations for the CMBS market in 2025. Alan shares his outlook on CMBS delinquency rates, special servicing rates, investor interest in alternatives such as data centers, single family rentals and self-storage and CRE CLO issuance as compared to 2024 levels. We also cover the office market dynamics in major cities, including quality shifts, supply shortages and tenant demand for second-tier office space as well as the outlook for the multifamily sector.