#178 - MIKE DEMARAIS

W1NTΞR is the co-creator of BasePaint, a collaborative pixel art project built on Base. He specializes in unique smart contracts, user interfaces, and everything in between. W1NTΞR has built several crypto projects in the last few years and worked for FAANG companies and startups before that. Follow him on X @w1nt3r_eth and on Farcaster @w1nt3r. Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/184-w1nt3r For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Jacob is a cofounder of Zora, an onchain social network revealing new opportunities to create, connect, and earn from your life online. It's new app could be compared to a crypto version of Instagram. Before creating Zora, Jacob was a product designer and product manager at Coinbase. Follow Jacob on Warpcast @jacob and on X @js_horne. 0:00 - Jacob’s journey to creating Zora 11:40 - The evolution of monetizing information 15:15 - Business model experimentation at Zora 25:39 - The spectrum of fungibility 35:34 - Zora’s fee structure and incentive model 43:41 - Collecting and aggregating within Zora 48:18 - Quantity vs quality of posts on Zora 1:00:35 - Introducing Sparks as a new unit of account 1:10:14 - The story behind Zora’s Zorb logo Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/183-jacob-horne For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Dariya is a Co-Founder at Layer3, the consumer attention layer for Web3. Previously, he built several apps, sold an Instagram network, and launched Mastermind, a mentorship platform. Follow Dariya on X @DariyaKho 0:00 - Selling Pokemon cards as a kid 7:32 - Building curated accounts on Instagram 15:59 - Being early to Instagram and learning to grow audiences 21:50 - Dariya’s favorite apps he built when he was young 28:51 - Monetizing intangible value with crypto 38:06 - Discovering crypto as a “nerd on the internet” 46:46 - Learning to express creativity in design versus code 48:33 - Making products that make users feel good 55:52 - The origin story behind Layer3 1:01:26 - Layer3’s business model and recent success 1:05:06 - What’s next for Layer3 Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/182-dariya-khojasteh⁠ For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

RAC is a Grammy award-winning musician, record producer, and pioneering creator in crypto. He is currently building Factory.fm (a music app) and Oscillator (a music protocol). Follow RAC on X @RAC. [0:00] - How RAC combined his interests in business and music to create a remix-as-a-service collective [13:56] - His discovery of and excitement about Ethereum [20:56] - Permissioned vs permissionless remixes [28:07] - RAC’s early attempts to bring music onchain [37:10] - Creating a shared social graph for onchain music [50:57] - Why music requires a dedicated social graph [1:03:14] - RAC’s creative process Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/181-RAC For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Jason is the Founder & CEO of Airstack, a leading Farcaster development company, and the creator of Moxie, a community owned, community-governed Farcaster protocol on a mission to grow the Farcaster GDP. [0:42] - Jason’s experience working at the White House during Bill Clinton's presidency [3:30] - Becoming a highly successful tech entrepreneur [12:18] - Making the decision to go all in on Farcaster [15:47] - Moving from Twitter to Farcaster after a decade [18:52] - Flipping traditional social economics with Farcaster [21:56] - Moxie’s careful approach to monetizing Farcaster [34:48] - The Moxie airdrop and rewards structure [41:02] - Moxie 101 and how to get started Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/180-jason-goldberg For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Nobody (legal name: Nobody Special) is the founder & CEO of Theopetra Labs. Theopetra aims to build a network state where citizens collectively & equally own both the financial infrastructure of the nation and the real estate it encompasses. Nobody previously has spent several years working in residential real estate and experimenting with concept like microspaces. Follow Nobody on X @Mel_Anic. [0:42] - Growing up as an immigrant and early entrepreneurial experiences [4:45] - Introduction to crypto and early Web3 real estate projects [7:52] - Sourcing early interest in Theopetra [11:25] - Theopetra’s approach to crowdfunding and community ownership [17:13] - Using micro spaces to bootstrap Theopetra [21:59] - Micro spaces as a minimal viable living space to reduce burn [27:24] - Lifestyles fit for micro space living [30:44] - The current state of Theopetra and benefits of being a member [35:55] - The importance of community within Theopetra [39:14] - Other projects building in the Network State space [42:43] - Attempting to break the longest live stream world record Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/179-nobody-special⁠ For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Mike is a co-founder of Rainbow, one of the most widely used wallets in crypto (wowowow). Before Rainbow, Mike started a couple of companies and worked for a few others after dropping out of college following his first semester. Follow Mike on X @mikedemarais and on Warpcast ⁠@mikedemarais.eth⁠. [0:42] - Mike's story from college dropout to crypto founder [10:31] - Starting companies to fix computers & 3D print toys [17:24] - Why Mike likes small towns and lower tier cities [23:53] - The irresistible opportunity to build in crypto [27:00] - Mike's product and design forward approach [30:33] - Inflection points in Rainbow’s growth to date [38:25] - Breaking down Rainbow’s ETH rewards program [46:25] - The future of Farcaster compared to Twitter Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/178-mike-demarais For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Joshua is the Founder & CEO of DoNotPay. He is a Thiel Fellow who has been called "Robin Hood of the Internet" for building products to save people time and money. DoNotPay is an automated service that handles over 200 consumer rights challenges such as cancelling subscriptions, obtaining refunds, and appealing tickets. Follow Joshua on X @jbrowder1. [0:16] - How Joshua turned his penchant for parking tickets into a successful business [6:31] - Joshua’s early experiences building iPhone apps [9:11] - Why Joshua took a careful and patient approach to starting DoNotPay while at Stanford [14:11] - Why Joshua waited so long to start charging for DoNotPay [15:51] - Alternative business models for DoNotPay [19:32] - Joshua's approach to building a lean, efficient team [24:25] - Operating as a global, in-person, nomadic organization [26:45] - How the advent GPT has transformed DoNotPay’s services [35:20] - Joshua’s perspective on the current and future states of AI [39:16] - Why Do Not Pay issues dividends to its employees and investors [43:16] - Joshua’s approach for growing DoNotPay from here [45:43] - Technology’s fast pace of change versus society’s slow pace of change [48:47] - Wisdom gained from The Thiel Fellowship Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/177-joshua-browder For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Jeremy is Co-Founder, Chairman and CEO of Circle, the financial technology company behind the USDC stablecoin. Before Circle, Jeremy co-founded several companies, including Brightcove and Allaire Corporation, which was acquired by Macromedia. Follow Jeremy on X @jerallaire. 0:00 - Jeremy’s career growth in parallel to the internet 10:06 - Comparing the first decade of internet adoption to the first decade of crypto innovation 18:37 - Why infrastructure innovation precedes application innovation 25:44 - What happens when the marginal cost of moving value approaches zero 33:59 - Crypto’s potential impact on existing institutions and society at large 43:19 - Jeremy’s thoughts on internet-native currencies 48:07 - The potential impacts of regulating crypto Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/176-jeremy-allaire For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!

Luca is the CEO of the Pudgy Penguins. Pudgy Penguins is one of the two or three most successful PFP NFT collections in the world by floor price and volume. Since dropping out of high school, Luca has become a serial entrepreneur and successful internet marketer who has built multiple e-commerce businesses. Follow Luca on X @LucaNetz. [0:00] - How an entrepreneurial mindset allowed Luca to experience early success in brand building, e-commerce, and NFTs [9:35] - Luca’s entrance into crypto and his fundamental beliefs about the industry [14:13] - The importance of self-awareness and building the right team for Pudgy Penguins [20:14] - The unique properties of building in Web3 [26:29] - Luca’s experience building alongside the Pudgy Penguins community [30:56] - The pros and cons of being a Non-Founder CEO [34:26] - Why Luca believes IP is the most valuable part of NFTs [39:55] - The current state of NFTs at large [42:37] - The future of IP, NFTs, and crypto's impact on value Mint this episode for free onchain on Base at ⁠pods.media/pod-of-jake/175-luca-netz For more episodes, go to ⁠⁠podofjake.com⁠⁠. Previous guests include ⁠⁠Mark Cuban⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Vitalik Buterin⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Brian Armstrong⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Balaji Srinivasan⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rabois⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Ali Spagnola⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Anthony Pompliano⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Raoul Pal⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Julia Galef⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jack Butcher⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Tim Draper⁠⁠, and over 100 others alike. Learn from founders and CEOs of companies like ⁠⁠OpenAI⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Coinbase⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Solana⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Polygon⁠⁠, ⁠⁠AngelList⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Oura⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Replit⁠⁠, and investors from ⁠⁠Founders⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fund⁠⁠, ⁠⁠a16z⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Union Square Ventures⁠⁠, and many more. I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy. Thanks to ⁠⁠⁠Chase Devens⁠⁠⁠ for the show notes and ⁠⁠⁠Yiction⁠⁠⁠ for the music. Lastly, I love hearing from fans of the pod. Feel free to email me any time at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠. Thank you!