Guatapé, Colombia

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan loads up the family and heads to sunny Detroit. On our previous Detroit episode (Epi 153), we focused on the art and major tourist attractions, and this time around we hit up Detroit’s surprisingly lovely nature (read: Belle Isle) and amazing local eats (read: Dearborn, MI.) Things we talk about on this week’s episode: Saint Sebastian is a gay icon https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/stories/lgbt-artwork-marks-saint-sebastian-feast-day  Basilica of Saint Sebastian Outside the Walls https://www.turismoroma.it/en/places/basilica-san-sebastiano-outside-walls  Detroit 101 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/detroit-101/id1438098925?i=1000617683551 Detroit Riverfront https://www.detroitriverfront.org/  Cullen Family Carousel https://www.detroitriverfront.org/plan-your-visit/things-to-do/cullen-family-carousel-seasonal  Belle Isle https://www.belleisleconservancy.org/  Livingstone Memorial Lighthouse http://detroithistorical.org/learn/online-research/encyclopedia-of-detroit/livingstone-memorial-lighthouse  The Gothic Room https://www.detroithistorical.org/exhibitions/gothic-room  James Scott Memorial Fountain https://historicdetroit.org/buildings/james-scott-memorial-fountain  Halal Food Guru https://www.tiktok.com/@halalfoodguru   Altayeb https://www.yelp.com/biz/altayeb-of-dearborn-dearborn   Pupuseria https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Salvadoran&find_loc=Detroit%2C+MI  Leila https://www.leiladetroit.com/  Detroit style pizza https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-pizza-restaurants-detroit?srsltid=AfmBOooztxdpsnekr53gxRIgkbl654hgGtOqjTYgjNCaX1QnyzGizSbO   Boston’s Detroit Pizza Co https://www.dpcboston.com/s/order#most-popular  Pie Sci https://piescipizza.com/  Ryan can’t go to Singapore https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz60z98nzx7o 

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Guatapé, Colombia, land of big rocks and little zócalos, with an interview with tour guide Oscar Lujan. Plus, Kiernan takes us back to London for a preview of The Darkest Hour: The Musical. Things we talk about on this week’s episode: Oscar: https://www.instagram.com/medellinpeaks/ Ryan: https://www.instagram.com/p/DNbi4w4pQzI/?igsh=MWR0ZnczM2doczBxeg%3D%3D Kiernan: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/british-history-royals-rebels-and-romantics/id1516524780   

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan chats with Daniel Stables, the author of the new book “Fiesta”, which chronicles Daniel’s journey around the world attending parties, shindigs, ceremonies, gatherings, jamborees, and other alluring functions! Things we talk about on this week’s episode: “Fiesta” by Daniel Stables https://www.iconbooks.com/ib-title/fiesta/  Garcia Marquez laid to rest https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36355670  Benjamin Pollock’s Toy Shop https://www.pollocks-coventgarden.co.uk/ 

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” a listener request! Kiernan offers tips, tricks, watch-outs, and must-dos when traveling with children. From gear to diversionary tactics, this is a must-listen for wanderlusty parents.  Things we talk about on this week’s episode: Anker external batteries https://www.anker.com/collections/power-banks Puro headphones https://purosound.com/ “America, América” https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/747326/america-america-by-greg-grandin/  “Fiesta” by Daniel Stables https://www.iconbooks.com/ib-title/fiesta/  Charlie's Place https://lnk.to/CharliesPlace-OutofOffice  

Ryan has been laid low with an exotic Mexican stomach bug, so this week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys are revisiting an old favorite: a friendly chat about how to pick souvenirs that will powerfully evoke memories without powerfully draining your bank account. This one is a tried and true classic from the archive. Wish Ryan a steady recover with a 5-star review! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925  

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys continue their discussion of must-see museums, churches, and curiosities in Rome. Plus, you’ll learn why cappuccinos are called that—and how they relate to rooms decorated with bones! Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode: National Museum of Rome https://www.rome-museum.com/national-roman-museum.php  Capitoline Museums  http://museicapitolini.org/en/node  Capuchin Crypt https://museoecriptacappuccini.it/en/the-crypt/  Cat Ruins https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/torre-argentina-roman-cat-sanctuary  Bocca della Verita https://www.rome.net/mouth-of-truth  Ostia Antica https://www.ostia-antica.org/  Trastevere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trastevere  Where to Travel Now…While You Can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b07NlIkKDc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PAA3WIWtg New Giant Marble Head! https://x.com/gualtierieurope/status/1936334736198144396   

Kiernan takes us to the City of Lights—Paris!—for a magical trip from French Impressionists to the gargoyles of Notre Dame. Plus, how to read stained glass like comic books and take home some museum-quality taxidermy. And Ryan reflects on the passing of Edmund White.

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys share their insider knowledge on how to lock down fantastic trips and deals even if you’re a little late to the party. Hidden National Parks, secret city hideaways, and booking schemes await! Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode: Julie Klausner https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/how-was-your-week/  Boop the Musical https://boopthemusical.com/  North Cascades https://www.nps.gov/noca/index.htm  Isle Royale https://www.nps.gov/isro/index.htm  Great Sand Dunes https://www.nps.gov/grsa/index.htm  Mesa Verde https://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm  Badlands https://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm  Rapid City Sculptor episode https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/city-of-presidents-with-james-van-nuys/id1438098925?i=1000451011128  Canyonlands https://www.nps.gov/cany/index.htm  Bear Ears National Monument https://www.blm.gov/visit/bears-ears-national-monument  Great State Parks episode https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/  Great State Parks NYT article https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/travel/state-parks-visit-colorado-nc-florida.html   Google Flights “Explore” function https://www.google.com/travel/explore  Skyscanner “Explore Everywhere” function https://www.skyscanner.com/transport/flights-from/us/?adultsv2=1&cabinclass=economy&childrenv2=&ref=home&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&oym=2507&iym=2507  AirBNB Experiences announcement https://news.airbnb.com/airbnb-2025-summer-release/  The Walker Library of the History of Human Imagination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_the_History_of_Human_Imagination 

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Romania—visiting Bucharest, Brașov, and Cluj-Napoca. Expect puppets, dictator mansions, and steampunk exhibits along the way. Things We Talked About In Today's Episode:  - Ceaușescu Mansion  https://timharford.com/2024/04/cautionary-tales-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-megalomaniac/ - Palace of the Parliament - "Dimitrie Gusti" National Village Museum - Carturesti Verona  - The Puck Puppet Theater   https://teatrulpuck.ro/?lang=en @tomiksz13 the puppeteer  https://www.instagram.com/tomiksz13?

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys treat the ancient aqueducts like a flume ride and splash right into Rome! Kiernan and Ryan talk Emperors, SPQR, why columns make the best decor, plus just a touch of new Pope speculation. Our episode on Vatican City: https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-197-vatican-city/ Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode: “The Fall of Rome” podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fall-of-rome-podcast/id1141563910 “SPQR” by Mary Beard https://a.co/d/71DS93Z  “Roman Holiday” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rL5QxXF0g8  Colosseum https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-colosseum/  Forum https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-roman-forum/  Palatine Hill https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-palatine/  Pantheon https://www.pantheonroma.com/home-eng/ Borghese Gallery https://galleriaborghese.beniculturali.it/en/  Bath of Diocletian https://museonazionaleromano.beniculturali.it/en/baths-of-diocletian/  Trevi Fountain https://www.blacktomato.com/us/inspirations/the-history-of-romes-trevi-fountain/  Spanish Steps https://romesite.com/spanish-steps.html  Catacombs of Saint Sebastian https://www.catacombe.org/  Lego Trevi Fountain https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/trevi-fountain-21062