On marketing and overshoot | with Phoebe Barnard, scientist and system strategist | S4E9

We sat down with Daniel Christian Wahl to talk about the nature of regenerative cultures and what the world might look like if that were the dominant model for our societies. Daniel Christian Wahl originally trained as a biologist before going on to study holistic science and completing his PhD in Design for Human and Planetary Health. He is an educator, consultant and author committed to shaping a world that harmonizes human and planetary health and wellbeing. His book 'Designing Regenerative Cultures,' is regarded as a seminal work in the field.Born in Germany, he now lives in Mallorca, where he is custodian of a Mediterranean regenerative food forest that serves as a sanctuary and model for sustainable living. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.  In the four years since it has been running, the Inner Green Deal podcast has been entirely self-funded and we are committed to keeping it that way, which means commercials-free. To live up to this ambition, we are inviting you to support us. Every contribution, however small, makes a difference and allows us to continue sharing inspiring stories that highlight how understanding what is going inside can help in tackling the climate crisis. If you would like to donate, click here for more details.   https://app.regen.network/https://www.danielchristianwahl.com/About the Inner Green Deal  The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected].  Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

If marketing is a key driver of behaviour that leads to ecological overshoot, can it be used to reverse it?Each year, we collectively use up more resources than the planet can regenerate. A new paper names the human behaviour crisis as the driver for this ecological overshoot and analyses the role of marketing. Tamsin Walker sat down with Phoebe Barnard who co-authored the paper to discuss the history of our collective consumer behaviour, what role marketing could have in slowing overshoot and what it takes to reach a social tipping point. Phoebe is a biodiversity and climate scientist, systems and policy strategist, societal futurist, writer and film producer. She is campaign advisor at the Global Evergreening Alliance, convenor of the Global Restoration Collaborative, Affiliate Professor at the University of Washington, and Researcher at the University of Cape Town. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.  In the four years since it has been running, the Inner Green Deal podcast has been entirely self-funded and we are committed to keeping it that way, which means commercials-free. To live up to this ambition, we are inviting you to support us. Every contribution, however small, makes a difference and allows us to continue sharing inspiring stories that highlight how understanding what is going inside can help in tackling the climate crisis. If you would like to donate, click here for more details.   Linkshttps://www.phoebebarnard.com/Paper: the behavioural crisis driving ecological overshoothttps://www.evergreening.org/https://www.stableplanetalliance.org/restoration About the Inner Green Deal  The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected].  Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

We are welcoming Nipun Mehta, founder of ServiceSpace, a global movement that touches millions of people through the merging of volunteerism, technology and the gift-economy.Tamsin spoke to Nipun about the potential and far-reaching impacts of an unexpected act of kindness. Not only for the recipient, but for oneself, society and the world at large. Nipun set up ServiceSpace after quitting his first and only job as a software engineer to become a full-time volunteer. Fast forward more than two decades and ServiceSpace has evolved to become a global ecosystem of over 1.5 million members, delivering millions of dollars in service for free. He has also been honoured by the Dalai Lama as an "Unsung Hero of Compassion".Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected].   In the four years since it has been running, the Inner Green Deal podcast has been entirely self-funded and we are committed to keeping it that way, which means commercials-free. To live up to this ambition, we are inviting you to support us. Every contribution, however small, makes a difference and allows us to continue sharing inspiring stories that highlight how understanding what is going inside can help in tackling the climate crisis. If you would like to donate, click here for more details.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

The language we use to talk about things shapes our perception of the world. The more we use certain terms, the more entrenched our perspectives become. What if we started describing things in a new way?Tamsin Walker sat down with Inez Aponte to talk about how different ways of measuring success can lead to a more connected and ultimately healthy experience of life. Both for people and planet.Inez is an educator, storyteller and consultant in Barefoot Economics, which using a fundamental needs framework to assess economic wellbeing, can serve as a tool to change the narrative around economic success.With a background in performance storytelling and improvisation, she focuses on the interplay between language, narrative and behaviour change, working with groups to cultivate what she calls a ‘radical collective imagination’, as the basis for addressing our shared complex challenges. In 2021, she founded a social enterprise called Crazy Beautiful World with her then 16-year-old son. Their mission is to connect young people with the adults who care about their future to explore compassionate and wise ways to navigate the challenges of the 21st Century.If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.  Linkshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/inezaponte/?originalSubdomain=ukhttps://crazybeautiful.world/our-story/ About the Inner Green Deal The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected]. In the four years since it has been running, the Inner Green Deal podcast has been entirely self-funded and we are committed to keeping it that way, which means commercials-free. To live up to this ambition, we are inviting you to support us. Every contribution, however small, makes a difference and allows us to continue sharing inspiring stories that highlight how understanding what is going inside can help in tackling the climate crisis. If you would like to donate, click here.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

In this episode, originally recorded during the 2020 elections, Inner Green Deal co-founder Jeroen Janss spoke to Bryan Welch, leading publisher on sustainability, former CEO of mindful.org and committed rancher from Kansas.He asked Bryan how he felt about the prospect of a second-term Donald Trump presidency and what a contested election means for America.Knowing the system from the inside, he points to the divisions that he has seen deepening over the years and the media and vested interests that have played a role in that. Yet despite the challenging outlook, Bryan also sees many positive developments and talks about the millions of people that discover the power of compassion – a quality that he sees not only as distinctively human - and grounding - but also as critical at a time of societal division, environmental mass extinction and climate change. So take a deep breath and listen to Bryan’s wisdom while the US election season gets underway in earnest. More about Bryan Welch at https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-welch-3383311/.About the Inner Green Deal The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected]. In the four years since it has been running, the Inner Green Deal podcast has been entirely self-funded and we are committed to keeping it that way, which means commercials-free. To live up to this ambition, we are inviting you to support us. Every contribution, however small, makes a difference and allows us to continue sharing inspiring stories that highlight how understanding what is going inside can help in tackling the climate crisis. If you would like to donate, click here. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.  Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Despite the importance of resilience, many myths continue to exist. In this episode we take a deeper dive and explore the nature of resilience and how to cultivate it collectively.Our guest is Chris Tamdjidi, co-author of The Resilient Culture and co-founder of Awaris, a global consulting and training company.Tamsin Walker spoke to Chris about where resilience comes from, the benefits of being curious and how engaging with the natural world can open us up to a deeper understanding of ourselves.With a focus on mindfulness, enlightened leadership and understanding cause and effect, Chris has notched up more than 25 years working in business consulting, leadership development, mindfulness practices and change management. Drawing on that experience and knowledge, he has now co-authored a book out in July together with our Inner Green Deal co-founder Liane Stephan: The Resilient Culture – How collective resilience leads to business success. It explores, amongst others the linkage between resilience and natural world and how it can become woven into the fabric of an organisation. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected].   In the four years since it has been running, the Inner Green Deal podcast has been entirely self-funded and we are committed to keeping it that way, which means commercials-free. To live up to this ambition, we are inviting you to support us. Every contribution, however small, makes a difference and allows us to continue sharing inspiring stories that highlight how understanding what is going inside can help in tackling the climate crisis. If you would like to donate, click here. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.  Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

In this very short episode following the European elections, we offer a pause to reflect on the divisions revealed by the elections and invite you to join us for a short exercise. While the knee-jerk reaction might be to seek distance from 'the other side', could that ultimately lead to deeper polarisation? In this special episode, we introduce a brief exercise based on the work of Emma Stenström that offers a way to reach out and consider 'other' opinions with a view to building bridges and fostering understanding. For more information on this exercise: https://www.hhs.se/en/research/sweden-through-the-crisis/bubble-hopping/We hope you find this exercise useful and appreciate the moment to pause amidst the frantic news coverage. Please share with us your reflections on our Inner Green Deal linkedin or Instagram page. Or write to us on [email protected] the Inner Green DealThe Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on innergreendeal.com.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

We only need to walk down a street, open a browser or turn on the TV to understand that we are being addressed as consumers. But what if behind that narrative, there were another waiting to step into the limelight and reshape the communities and countries in which we live?Jon Alexander, author or Citizens, Why the Key to Fixing Everything Is All of Us, argues that there is. He calls it the citizen story. Tamsin Walker sat down with Jon Alexander to talk about exactly what that is, what can happen when even a small group of people decide to take matters into their own hands, and how some leaders are also daring to dabble with more participatory forms of co-existence. Jon started his professional life in an advertising agency in London, but a decade in, had come to see that treating citizens as eternal consumers was undermining their inherent power as individuals. He returned to university and co-founded the New Citizenship Project, a strategy and innovation consultancy operating on the belief that given the right opportunity, people can and will shape the things that matter to them for the better. To date, NCP as it is known for short, has worked with the European Central Bank, the Guardian and many others to shift the story of the individual in society away from that of consumer to that of participatory citizen.Since publishing his book Citizens in 2022, he has met with and heard from people all across the world, who he says are finding one another, organising together, and stepping into whatever power they have to shape the future for the better.About the Inner Green Deal The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected]. Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

We talk to Li An Phoa, founder of the charity Drinkable Rivers about her work towards a world with waterways so clean that we can sip from their banks. Her mission started in 2005 when she canoed the full length of the Rupert river in Canada, drinking fresh water from it as she went. When she returned there just three years later, she was met with a different picture. The water had been polluted as a result of dams and mining. Fish were dying and local people were falling ill. Seeing the ecosystem thrown out of balance, Li An realised that being able to drink from a river was an indicator of healthy living. She now raises awareness and mobilise people to take action through river walks, citizen science and community building, like Mayors for Drinkable Rivers, a group that emerged from her 2018 walk along the River Meuse. That 1000-kilometer source-to-sea walk took her through France, Belgium and the Netherlands. Most recently, she embarked on 500 kilometre walk along the river Thames, starting at its source in the Cotswolds and ending four weeks later at the mouth of the North Sea. She has also co-authored a book ‘Drinkable Rivers: How the River Became My Teacher’Inner Green Deal host Tamsin Walker sat down with Li An to talk about how we can learn to use rivers as a marker for a healthy society, how we can reconnect with the water that keeps us alive and with each other to keep it clean. Please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.  Drinkable Rivers: https://drinkablerivers.org/ About the Inner Green Deal The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion. In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected]. Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Living within us all, imagination has no small role to play in rethinking the world of today and tomorrow. But how do we harness its phenomenal power? That is the question at the heart of this month's episode of the Inner Green Deal podcast.  Phoebe Tickell, founder of Moral Imaginations and former scientist, talks about the importance of imagination to bring us closer in relationship with the world - as opposed to escaping from it. A fresh and stimulating perspective.If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to our podcast or leaving a review. In doing so you make it easier for people to discover our podcast. We thank you for your support.    Links https://www.phoebetickell.com/ https://www.moralimaginations.com/imaginactivism  About the Inner Green Deal  The Inner Green Deal is a non-profit organisation based in Cologne and Brussels with a growing community around the world. We address the human dimension of sustainability and support leaders, change makers and facilitators to accelerate the green transformation. We offer a range of short and longer programmes cultivating capacities such as collaboration, systems thinking and compassion.   In addition to programmes for organisations, we empower facilitators and offer train-the-trainer programmes, access to curricula and digital tools to create cohesive communities of change. Our podcast is hosted and produced by Tamsin Walker. Executive producer is IGD co-founder Jeroen Janss. For more information, visit us on LinkedIn, innergreendeal.com or write to [email protected].    Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.