194- Journaling to Get the Ugly Out

What does depression really feel like — especially when you don’t even realize you’re experiencing it?In this special retrospective episode, Terry sits down with her sister and original co-host, Bridget, to reflect on hundreds of conversations about depression — and what they’ve learned along the way.After hearing more than 300 stories of lived experience, one thing has become clear: depression isn’t “just a number.” It’s people. Real people with names, families, jobs, responsibilities — and internal battles most of us never see.Bridget shares powerful insights about:How she experienced depression without naming itThe danger of believing depression’s internal messagingWhy depression doesn’t look the same for everyoneThe difference between being depressed and having depressionHow stigma and silence delay helpThe toll depression takes on caregivers and loved onesWhy recognizing symptoms earlier could change outcomesThis episode is deeply personal. It’s about learning to create space between yourself and the voice of depression. It’s about realizing depression is an illness — not an identity. And it’s about the life-saving power of conversation.If you’ve ever wondered whether what you’re feeling “counts” as depression, this conversation may help you find language for your experience.Primary Topics Covered:What depression feels like internallySigns and symptoms of depressionDifferent manifestations of depressionNegative internal messaging and ruminationDepression stigma and silenceCaregiver impactTherapy and medication decisionsEarly recognition and preventionDepression vs. identityBuilding a mental health toolkitTimestamps:00:00 – Introduction and milestone reflection02:41 – Turning “300 million” into real people06:06 – The weight and honor of shared stories07:52 – When listening saves lives10:57 – What we didn’t understand about depression11:31 – Creating space between yourself and depression12:52 – The non-linear journey of treatment14:02 – Different manifestations of depression16:16 – The surprising similarity of depression’s internal voice17:00 – Recognizing symptoms earlier18:25 – Building a depression toolkitExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

If the world feels heavy right now — you're not imagining it.In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Jeffrey Rubin, we explore how to cope with depression and anxiety during overwhelming times. From constant news cycles to collective trauma, many of us are operating in survival mode.Dr. Rubin offers practical strategies to protect your mental health without disengaging from reality:How to “titrate” your exposure to newsWhy empathy becomes overwhelming when we try to fix everythingSomatic reset techniques to physically release tensionHow to stop fighting your own emotionsWhy building in self-care is more effective than “fitting it in”The difference between helping and fixingHow to change channels when rumination becomes self-attackWhy flourishing matters more than chasing happinessTerry and Carly also share candid reflections about closing “sense doors,” taking breaks before burnout, and learning to honor early warning signs.This episode is about staying informed, without losing yourself.About compassion, without drowning in it.About surviving hard seasons, and even flourishing through them.Primary Topics Covered:Coping with depression during crisisAnxiety and media overwhelmGrounding exercises and breathworkSomatic resets (tighten and release technique)Emotional boundaries and self-protectionEmpathy vs. over-responsibilityRumination and how to “change channels”Grief processing and giving yourself permission to feelFlourishing vs. happinessGratitude as emotional anchorClosing “sense doors” to prevent overloadTimestamps:00:00 – The weight of living in a “polycrisis”03:24 – Titrating your news exposure04:47 – Guided breathing reset (nose breathing)06:06 – Build it in vs. fit it in07:25 – Why habits fail without structure09:03 – Mini resets to prevent emotional overload11:43 – Empathy without drowning13:13 – Grief, boundaries, and “coming back to the land of the living”14:29 – Stop fighting your own emotions15:00 – Flourishing vs. chasing happiness16:39 – How to stop rumination (“change channels”)18:01 – Consuming news differently19:35 – Gratitude instead of forced happiness21:36 – Helping vs. fixing22:01 – Honoring early warning signs23:42 – Closing your “sense doors”Explore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

What if depression isn’t an enemy — but a message?In this episode, Dr. Jeffrey Rubin, a pioneer in integrating Eastern meditation with Western psychotherapy, shares a powerful reframing of depression. Instead of viewing it as proof that something is wrong with us, he invites us to consider what it might be trying to tell us.Dr. Rubin explains:Why depression often feels permanent (even though it isn’t)How shame and self-criticism deepen sufferingThe three illusions depression createsWhy we feel like we’re the only one strugglingHow to build self-care into your life instead of “fitting it in”Why protecting your energy from news and overstimulation mattersTogether, Terry and Carly reflect on how depression “talks in your own voice,” how difficult emotions visit us like guests, and why small daily practices — like intentional breathing — can change your relationship with your mental health.If you’ve ever thought:“This feeling will never end.”“I’m the only one who feels this way.”“I’m weak for struggling.”This conversation offers both validation and hope — and practical ways to cope in overwhelming times.Depression is real. But so is resilience.Primary Topics Covered:How to deal with depression in difficult timesDepression as communication rather than inadequacySelf-compassion vs. self-contemptThe illusion that depression is permanentShame, isolation, and distorted thinkingProtecting your mental health from media overloadBuilding self-care practices into daily lifeBreathwork and grounding techniquesEastern philosophy and mental healthThe “Guest House” metaphor for emotionsTimestamps :00:00 – Introduction and context for today’s discussion01:22 – Quotes about depression and modern society03:02 – What makes experiences traumatic05:09 – Depression as a message, not evidence of inadequacy06:00 – Artificial connection vs real intimacy07:13 – Opening to emotions with compassion07:46 – The illusion that feelings never end08:22 – The belief that “I’m the only one”09:58 – Depression plus self-contempt10:45 – Managing mental health during overwhelming times12:25 – Protecting yourself from constant news exposure12:45 – Build self-care in, don’t fit it in14:09 – Small daily grounding practices18:53 – The illusion that we’re alone in depression21:13 – Rumi’s “The Guest House” and welcoming emotionsExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

What does depression actually feel like from the inside?In this candid conversation, Terry McGuire shares the origin story behind the Giving Voice to Depression podcast — and opens up about her own experience with major depression, antidepressants, intrusive thoughts, and the isolating voice of the illness.She describes how depression “talks in your own voice,” how it infiltrates your thinking before you realize what’s happening, and how it convinces you that you are a burden, alone, and beyond hope.But this episode is not just about the darkness — it’s about what helped her come out the other side. With medical support, medication, and a decision to speak openly, Terry turned her experience into a mission: helping others feel less alone.This episode also explores:Masking depression with humorPTSD and trauma rewiring the brainWhy listening can save livesWhy depression lies feel like truthThe importance of speaking openly about mental healthIf you've ever wondered whether what you're feeling is depression — or if you love someone who may be struggling — this conversation offers honesty, clarity, and hope.You are not alone. And recovery is possible.Primary Topics Covered:What depression really feels like internallyNegative self-talk and cognitive distortionsDepression symptoms: withdrawal, hopelessness, fatigueAntidepressants and medical treatmentCrisis hotline volunteering and suicide preventionThe power of listening and compassionMasking depression with humorPTSD and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs)Depression in familiesThe origin story of the Giving Voice to Depression podcast:Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction and purpose of the podcast03:02 – Terry shares her depression origin story04:32 – Why hearing from someone who’s been there matters05:19 – Evidence of the deep need for real depression stories06:16 – Volunteering for a crisis hotline after family loss07:10 – Powerful suicide prevention stories10:55 – Using humor to mask depression11:59 – What Terry’s depression felt like internally12:22 – “Depression talks in your own voice”13:45 – PTSD, trauma, and brain changes15:43 – Experiencing depression differently within families17:11 – Depression thoughts feel like “truth”18:21 – Where to find Giving Voice to Depression19:42 – A reminder: It is worth the fightExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

What if the “sad kid” in school wasn’t just sensitive — but struggling with depression?In this powerful episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Sally looks back at her childhood and teenage years and recognizes signs of depression that were misunderstood or overlooked. Excessive sleeping. Dark poetry. Persistent sadness. Thoughts about suicide. A lonely letter written at age ten.At the time, mental health education was limited. Her teacher raised concerns. Her parents didn’t know what to do. Therapy wasn’t discussed. Medication wasn’t considered.Now, nearly 70, Sally shares her story not with blame — but with purpose.She wants today’s parents, teachers, mentors, and caregivers to recognize the early signs of childhood depression and to know that help is available. Through diagnosis, medication, therapy, and self-awareness, Sally built a successful career and meaningful life — while still managing depression honestly.If you’ve ever wondered:“Is this normal teen behavior?”“Are these warning signs?”“How do I help a child who won’t talk?”This episode offers clarity, compassion, and a call to action.Depression in children is real. It’s treatable. And early intervention can change — and save — lives.Primary Topics Covered: Early signs of childhood depression (sleeping excessively, isolation, persistent sadness)The difference between “moody teen” and clinical depressionWriting dark poetry and suicidal ideation as warning signalsThe impact of grief and unprocessed loss on childrenMissed opportunities for early interventionDepression diagnosis at 21 and delayed treatmentFinding the right antidepressant medication after years of trialWhat depression feels like: “the rain-soaked coat” metaphorThe importance of educating families about youth mental healthWhy reducing stigma saves livesTimestamps: 00:00 – Introduction to Sally’s story and why youth mental health matters01:26 – Is it surly teen behavior — or depression?02:50 – Excessive sleeping and feeling “different” as a teen03:58 – Grief after her grandmother’s death and emotional shutdown04:44 – Dark poetry and early suicidal thoughts05:41 – Teacher warning signs — and missed intervention07:06 – The letter written at age 10: loneliness and sadness08:03 – How childhood depression steals joy09:14 – Adult diagnosis and unexpected antidepressant breakthrough10:38 – The mistake of stopping medication too soon12:10 – Building a successful career while managing depression13:06 – What depression feels like: the “rain-soaked coat”14:13 – Why today’s children have more access to help14:58 – What parents should look for beyond scraped knees15:16 – Youth suicide prevention and early intervention16:33 – Reducing stigma: calling therapists “feeling doctors”17:45 – Closing reflections and hopeExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

When Kathleen’s life fell apart near age 50 after a traumatic family event, she found herself battling severe depression, anxiety, PTSD, and suicidal thoughts. After years of therapy and treatment-resistant depression, a turning point came through an unexpected source — crocheting tiny hearts.In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Kathleen shares how creating and distributing these handmade hearts evolved into The Little Heart Project, a grassroots movement spreading kindness, connection, and suicide prevention awareness one heart at a time.Through the project, strangers exchange hope — crocheters, volunteers, and recipients alike — proving that small, loving gestures can open conversations about mental health that might save lives.Hosts Terry McGuire and Dr. Anita Sanz discuss how compassion and community can coexist with clinical care, how simple acts of creativity support emotional recovery, and how we can all play a part in turning despair into connection.If you’ve ever wondered whether small acts of kindness can make a difference, this episode will convince you that they can.Primary Topics CoveredKathleen’s journey through depression, PTSD, and suicidalityHow crafting and purpose can support recoveryThe creation and growth of The Little Heart ProjectHow simple acts of kindness can spark mental health conversationsThe power of messages like “You are loved” and “It’s okay to not be okay”The role of ketamine therapy in treating treatment-resistant depressionBuilding a mental health “toolbox” — strategies that actually helpWhy talking about depression and suicide is essential for healingThe ripple effect: how one heart led to a life-saving late-night conversationFinal reflections on hope, survival, and doing what you can in dark timesTimestamps00:00 – Welcome and introduction from Terry and Carly01:03 – Why this Valentine’s-themed episode focuses on “hearts that heal”02:59 – Kathleen’s story: depression, trauma, and PTSD after a family crisis03:56 – Living with depression while trying to work and survive05:42 – Discovering crochet as a mindful escape06:30 – Launching The Little Heart Project and how it works 07:42 – How kindness sparks mental health conversations 08:41 – What messages are on the heart tags (“You are loved,” “It’s okay to not be okay”) 10:46 – How therapy and ketamine treatments helped her recover 12:27 – Building a “mental health toolbox” of coping strategies 13:38 – Sharing her story and reducing stigma through speaking 14:45 – The story of Samantha and Andrea — a heart that saved a life 16:05 – Hope, honesty, and understanding different healing paths 18:17 – Dr. Anita Sanz: why focusing on “what we can do” brings peace 19:12 – The value of surviving long enough for treatment to work 21:34 – Why hope — even 0.01% — is enough to keep going 22:01 – Closing thoughts and how to get involved in The Little Heart ProjectExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

When depression runs in families, so can silence.In this deeply personal episode, Giving Voice to Depression listener Alexander shares his journey from hiding his pain to opening up about it — and helping his family do the same.After years of quietly managing chronic illness, anxiety, and depression, Alexander realized he couldn’t keep pretending he was “fine.” What began as a search for understanding led him to Giving Voice to Depression, where hearing others share openly gave him permission to speak about his own struggles.Now, Alexander is choosing a different path. He’s building a foundation of communication with his wife and sons, breaking the generational silence that once defined his family. He talks about learning to accept his diagnosis, managing depression alongside chronic illness, confronting alcohol misuse, and reaching out for professional help when life feels overwhelming.Hosts Terry McGuire and Carly McCollow reflect on Alexander’s courage and what it means to be a “cycle breaker” — someone who changes inherited patterns of silence, stigma, and shame into compassion, honesty, and healing.If you’ve ever felt alone with your depression or unsure how to start a conversation about mental health, this story will remind you that you’re not alone — and that change begins with one brave voice.Primary Topics Covered:Breaking generational cycles of silence around mental healthMen and depression: the pressure to “soldier through” painLiving with chronic illness and its mental health tollThe impact of family stigma and emotional suppressionRecognizing depression as part of the human experience, not a character flawSeeking help and opening up about suicidal thoughts safelyParenting with awareness: raising emotionally open childrenUnderstanding that healing is ongoing — and often starts with small, brave conversationsTimestamps:00:00 – Welcome and episode introduction01:21 – The power of shared personal stories in changing mental health stigma02:10 – Meet Alexander and how he found Giving Voice to Depression 03:25 – How hearing others’ stories made him feel less alone 04:39 – Growing up without open conversations about mental health 05:38 – Managing chronic illness and its emotional toll 06:30 – Accepting a diagnosis of depression and anxiety 07:40 – Realizing depression runs in the family 09:17 – Self-medicating with alcohol and the journey to recovery 10:20 – Shame, honesty, and learning to ask for help 11:15 – Breaking cycles through communication with his children 12:40 – Terry and Carly reflect on “cycle breaking” and generational healing 14:05 – The importance of curiosity about family mental health 15:22 – How awareness helps us create change for future generations 17:10 – Closing thoughts: Depression is too dark a road to walk aloneExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

When depression takes hold, even the smallest tasks — doing the dishes, making your bed, sending a text — can feel insurmountable. In this honest and compassionate conversation, writer Molly Bacchus joins host Terry McGuire to talk about what she calls “The Impossible Task.”Molly’s viral description of this experience gave language to something millions silently endure: the crushing paralysis of depression that turns simple responsibilities into emotional mountains. Together, they explore why this happens, why it’s not laziness or weakness, and how asking for help can make all the difference.Through personal stories and raw honesty, this episode offers comfort, validation, and practical insight — reminding listeners that depression lies, help is possible, and no one should have to face it alone.💬 Primary Topics CoveredWhat “the impossible task” really means in depressionHow guilt and shame reinforce depression’s paralysisWhy everyday tasks can feel physically and mentally overwhelmingLearning to separate inability from lazinessThe importance of community and “co-depression friends”How helping others can also help us healGiving yourself permission to ask for help — without shameWhy depression lies about being permanent — and how to hold on to hope⏱ Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to Giving Voice to Depression 01:20 – Why words matter when describing mental health 02:08 – Introducing “The Impossible Task” and how it began 03:32 – When daily chores feel impossible 04:45 – Molly’s month-long struggle to make her bed 06:23 – Why simple things can feel overwhelming 07:19 – Fighting the self-blame that comes with depression 08:36 – Emotional triage: choosing what your brain can handle 09:28 – When picking up a prescription feels like climbing a mountain 10:54 – The power of a friend who simply shows up 11:49 – A message of hope: “This will not last forever.” 12:19 – Remembering that depression lies about permanence 13:22 – Helping others can help yourself, too 14:19 – Finding “co-depression friends” and mutual support 15:08 – The courage to talk about your impossible task 16:16 – Closing reflections: asking for help and finding strengthExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

In this inspiring episode of Giving Voice to Depression, wellness expert and author Darin Olien — co-host of Netflix’s Down to Earth with Zac Efron — opens up about his personal experiences with depression and shares how physical and mental health are deeply connected.Olien, known for his best-selling books SuperLife and Fatal Conveniences, discusses how diet, hydration, sleep, trauma, and emotional awareness play crucial roles in improving mental health. He shares candid reflections on grief, loss, and rebuilding his life after his Malibu home burned down — revealing how embracing vulnerability and self-compassion became essential parts of his healing journey.Together with hosts Terry McGuire and Dr. Anita Sanz, Darin explores how we can take small, realistic steps to strengthen mental resilience, nurture our bodies, and reclaim hope.Whether you’re struggling with depression, supporting a loved one, or simply looking for practical ways to take better care of your mind and body, this conversation offers real-world tools and the reminder that you don’t have to walk this road alone.💬 Primary Topics CoveredThe powerful link between physical and mental healthPersonal experiences with depression and lossThe role of nutrition, hydration, and sleep in mood regulationUnderstanding trauma, grief, and emotional healingPractical wellness tools for depression and anxietyHow to recognize when to seek professional helpThe value of community, empathy, and therapyWhy it takes courage to feel and process emotionsBuilding resilience and redefining hope after major life changes⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Welcome and episode overview01:20 – Meet Darin Olien: Author, wellness expert, and mental health advocate03:38 – Darin shares his family’s experience with depression05:42 – “When your body is depressed, your mind follows”: the biology of depression06:12 – Losing everything in the California wildfires — grief and renewal07:35 – The courage it takes to process pain and let go08:41 – How ultra-processed foods affect mood and mental clarity09:31 – Trauma, stress, and their long-term impact on mental health11:13 – Why community, therapy, and medication all matter12:27 – The importance of radical self-honesty and emotional safety13:17 – The power of empathy and active listening13:50 – Breaking stigma: why therapy isn’t weakness, it’s wisdom15:19 – Self-forgiveness and letting go of pain that isn’t yours16:36 – Understanding control: sleep, nutrition, and body rhythms18:07 – How diet and hydration influence mental health19:49 – “Get help. This is your life.” — Darin’s call to action20:54 – Permission to dream: finding purpose after depression22:00 – Dr. Sanz on what you can control — nutrition, sleep, activity, stress 24:47 – How genetics account for 20% — and your choices for 80% — of outcomes 25:51 – Closing reflections: hope, control, and compassionExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

In part two of his conversation with Giving Voice to Depression, musician, author, and activist Andre Henry continues sharing how creativity, self-compassion, and community have helped him survive depression and suicidal thoughts.Following his song “Make It to Tomorrow”, Andre walks listeners through the tools that keep him grounded — self-hugs, breathing exercises, and reframing shame into self-acceptance. He explains how therapy helped him build a “safety plan” that brings him back from despair to agency.Hosts Terry McGuire and Carly McCollow join him to discuss the power of community, how to show yourself the same compassion you’d show others, and the importance of recognizing that needing help doesn’t mean you’re broken — it means something in you needs attention.If you’ve ever felt stuck in darkness or hopelessness, this episode offers the real-world reminders and tools that can help you make it to tomorrow, too.💬 Primary Topics CoveredHow music helps process depression and emotional painAndre Henry’s “safety plan” for surviving suicidal thoughtsUsing self-hugs and breathing techniques to manage shameTransforming hopelessness into small acts of self-careWhy feeling suicidal doesn’t mean you’re broken — it means something needs attentionReframing depression as a sign of unmet needs, not personal failureThe role of community and therapy in mental health recoveryUsing creativity as emotional resilienceWhat it means to believe you can “make it to tomorrow”⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Giving Voice to Depression continues the conversation with Andre Henry01:12 – Revisiting “Make It to Tomorrow” and the meaning behind the song02:31 – How music helps Andre process depression and connect with others03:32 – The “safety plan” built into the second verse — sunlight, movement, connection04:42 – How therapy and body awareness helped him reclaim control05:15 – Self-hugs and the science of self-compassion06:22 – The Rick Hanson exercise: turning compassion inward07:12 – “I’m not afraid to say I’m not okay”: Andre’s emotional honesty08:38 – Why depression is a logical response to pain, not a personal failure09:10 – Remembering resilience: “You’ve outlived every bad day so far.”10:28 – How self-love changes the way you face external challenges11:13 – Why feeling suicidal doesn’t mean you’re broken — it means something needs care12:20 – “I didn’t see this beauty coming, but here we are.”13:27 – Carly and Terry reflect: Depression doesn’t mean brokenness — it signals a need for care14:32 – Full song performance: Make It to Tomorrow 17:21 – Closing message: Depression is too dark a road to walk aloneExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/