Episode 442: Leaks, Loyalty, and the Pentagon’s Process Problem

Today, Jess, Martha, Morgan, and Algene discuss the latest Ukraine ceasefire talks in London. With Trump envoy Keith Kellogg at the table, the administration is signaling it might walk away if a deal is not reached quickly. The administration’s push for Ukraine to give up Crimea, alongside Trump’s public frustration over continued Russian attacks, has raised concern among Ukraine’s allies.What happens if the U.S. takes a step back from the conflict? Does the Trump Administration's Ukraine strategy embolden China? Does Zelensky have the leverage to resist a deal that hands Crimea to Russia? Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/23/world/europe/ukraine-cease-fire-talks-london.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250423&instance_id=153146&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=71709507&segment_id=196578&user_id=b36bb8b1fddc039dd3b9788419691dbdhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/24/world/europe/europe-ukraine-russia-trump.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/24/trump-presidency-news/ Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@morganlroach@marthamillerdc@AlgeneSajeryLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/o_DuLxekPYg  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Morgan, Martha, and Jess break down Vice President JD Vance’s visit to India—a trip originally billed as personal but packed with high-level meetings and geopolitical implications. Vance’s arrival coincided with the deadliest terrorist attack in Kashmir in nearly 20 years, as gunmen killed at least two dozen tourists. As India blames Pakistan, tensions are rising, just as the U.S. seeks to deepen trade and security ties with New Delhi. What does this attack mean for India’s potential military response—and for regional stability? Can the U.S. and India align more closely on counterterrorism and China strategy? And with Trump and Vance pursuing a more transactional approach to diplomacy, is this the moment to finally lock in a U.S.-India trade agreement?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-kashmir-terror-attack-tourists-killed-wounded-pahalgam/ Follow our experts on Twitter: @morganlroach@NotTVJessJones@marthamillerdcLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/5F1Mj-0zC4k  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Les, Martha, Bishop, and Amy unpack the latest controversy surrounding Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, who’s now facing allegations of leaking classified information via another Signal chat—just days after three senior aides were abruptly fired. The allegations raise serious questions about process, discipline, and accountability at the heart of the Pentagon.Is the Trump administration holding Hegseth to a different standard? What are the consequences of removing the senior political staff who understand how the Department of Defense operates? And with growing concerns over the handling of classified information and a lack of internal checks, will Congress step in to create accountability in the system?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our expert's discussion!https://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/-nothing-about-this-is-normal-fmr-pentagon-official-blasts-turmoil-in-hegseth-s-pentagon-staff-237948997897 https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/16/pentagon-inquiry-hegseth-suspends-caldwell-selnick/ https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/20/ullyot-pentagon-hegseth-chaos-00300695 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/19/hegseth-leak-probe-officials-ousted/5380c9f0-1d7b-11f0-9160-306c35f9b3a8_story.html Follow our experts on Twitter: @lestermunson@marthamillerdc@amykmitchell@BishopGarrisonLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/cug1_ERc_7Y  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Jess, Martha, and Les discuss Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s visit to the White House. As the EU’s unofficial emissary, Meloni is hoping to head off an EU-U.S. trade war. Trump says a deal is coming “100%,” but he’s in no rush. Meanwhile, the EU is in talks with China over EV tariffs, as Trump reportedly ups pressure on Europe to pick a side: Washington or Beijing. Oh, and NASA has found signs of life on an exoplanet. From trade to space and everything in between—it’s a very Fun Friday.Is Trump driving a wedge between the EU and China—or just improvising one day at a time? Can Meloni, a right-wing nationalist, effectively represent Europe’s broader interests? Does NASA and the Trump Administration know more than they’re saying about alien life?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our expert's discussion!https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-100-confident-of-trade-deal-with-eu-during-italian-pm-melonis-us-visit/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/16/meloni-italy-eu-tariffs-trump/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-china-start-talks-lifting-eu-tariffs-chinese-electric-vehicles-handelsblatt-2025-04-10/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/04/16/alien-life-exoplanet-webb-telescope/Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@lestermunson@marthamillerdcLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/EuMN6WzKIPg  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Martha, Les, Andy, and Jess unpack the Trump administration’s latest mixed signals on Iran. After U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff publicly suggested the U.S. might accept uranium enrichment at levels allowed under the JCPOA, the statement was quickly walked back—raising major questions about whether the administration has a coherent strategy for talks with Tehran.What is the Trump administration’s actual position on Iran’s nuclear program? Is Witkoff—despite his lack of diplomatic experience—shaping U.S. foreign policy by default? Can the U.S. pursue negotiations without clear parameters, or should it return to a maximum pressure campaign?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-softens-position-on-iranian-uranium-enrichment-5bf0953a https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/15/trump-envoy-steve-witkoff-demands-iran-eliminate-nuclear-programme https://www.ft.com/content/5fa3707d-7952-464f-a67c-37ddfc061ed5 Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@lestermunson@marthamillerdc@AndyKeiserLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/qqev_TnyGVk  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Les, Martha, and Jess unpack the surprise departure of Pete Marocco, Director of the Office of Foreign Assistance, the architect behind the Trump administration’s dismantling of U.S. foreign assistance. In less than three months, USAID has been effectively gutted, with over 6,000 programs under review and thousands of jobs in the U.S. and abroad at risk. Marocco’s approach—mirroring Elon Musk’s soon-ending stint at DOGE—has thrown American aid policy into turmoil just as China deepens its influence in key developing regions and Congress begins to push back on the administration’s agenda.Was Marocco’s removal part of a broader shift—or just the end of a mission to dismantle American aid? Who’s actually calling the shots now, and could this signal a shift to a more measured approach to foreign assistance? And as U.S. credibility erodes abroad, will rivals like China turn this moment of disarray into a permanent strategic advantage?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/13/pete-marocco-usaid/https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-appointed-official-who-oversaw-dismantling-of-usaid-leaves-state-department/ar-AA1CRgrp?ocid=BingNewsVerphttps://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-official-who-oversaw-closure-of-usaid-has-left-state-department-5760da3dFollow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@lestermunson@marthamillerdcLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/C_aBds84CoI  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Jess, Morgan, Amy, and Algene dive into the shifting dynamics of European security as the Trump administration reportedly considers withdrawing up to 10,000 U.S. troops from the continent, while the head of U.S. European Command and several members of Congress urge against a drawdown. At the same time, European allies are boosting their defense investments, Ukraine is accusing China of direct involvement in the conflict, and the broader transatlantic relationship faces a potential realignment.What would a U.S. troop withdrawal signal to Russia and China? Is Europe prepared to fill the gap if the U.S. steps back? Could a force reduction undermine ceasefire efforts in Ukraine—or is this an opportunity for Europe to redefine its role in regional security?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-considering-proposal-cut-thousands-troops-europe-officials-sa-rcna199603https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/08/troops-europe-withdraw-cavoli-republicans-00007176https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-force-coalition-britain-france-nato-4c87525361eb3cf1c860075d4519f6d8https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/beijing-rejects-ukraines-claim-significant-numbers-chinese-troops-120627611https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/04/10/trump-defense-europe-eu-arms-sales-rearm-trade-war/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones@amykmitchell@morganlroach@AlgeneSajeryLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/6NnsxR0jd64 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Martha, Les, Bishop, and Amy discuss the Democratic Republic of the Congo’s plea for a minerals-for-security deal with the United States, as the country faces mounting violence and instability. With $24 trillion worth of natural resources—including critical cobalt reserves—on the line, Rwandan-backed rebel groups have seized key mining hubs in eastern Congo, killing thousands, displacing millions, and igniting regional tensions.What’s in it for Washington, and can the Trump administration craft a consistent, credible Africa strategy? As Rwanda and Uganda continue to exploit the chaos and U.S. tariffs hamper global engagement, will this become another case where talk outpaces action? And with American companies reluctant to invest in conflict zones, is the DRC poised to become another lost front in the race for critical minerals?Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation: https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/while-war-rages-congos-neighbors-smuggle-out-its-gold-and-mineral-wealth-8582b882?mod=hp_lead_pos8https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/17/amid-conflict-why-does-the-drc-want-a-minerals-deal-with-trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp34140qkw0o Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Follow our experts on Twitter: @amymitchell@bishop@lestermunson@marthamillerdcLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/ixUbjMEunxc Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Les, Martha, and Jess unpack the growing global fallout from President Trump’s expanding tariff agenda. With a minimum 10% tariff imposed on all imports – and significantly higher rates hitting key partners like Vietnam and the European Union – the administration’s “America First” approach is straining alliances and undercutting strategic objectives.Will Congress push back before economic strain turns into political blowback? Can national security priorities withstand the ripple effects of a disrupted global supply chain? And as China retaliates and allies like Japan, South Korea, and Israel respond, is Trump’s trade strategy isolating America at a time when unity is essential?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones @lestermunson@marthamillerdcLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/Nme-ogi97zM Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, Morgan, Les, Amy, and Jess unpack the dramatic firings at the National Security Council, following far-right influencer Laura Loomer’s unexpected meeting with President Trump. In just 24 hours, two rounds of senior NSC officials—including the Commander and Deputy of U.S. Cyber Command—were dismissed, with a third round reportedly imminent. What triggered the purge? A mix of internal power struggles, loyalty tests, and fallout from last week’s Signal Gate scandal.Is the Trump administration sidelining expertise in favor of ideological alignment? With trust in National Security Advisor Mike Waltz shaken and figures like Pete Hegseth gaining influence, is a broader battle underway between traditional GOP Reaganites and those who are more skeptical of U.S. alliances. And who stands to benefit from this internal unraveling at the heart of U.S. foreign policy?Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: https://jinsa.org/jinsa_report/path-to-snapback-april-2025/ https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/trump-iran-talks-bomb-threats https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/03/31/there-will-be-a-bombing-trump-threatens-to-attack-iran-if-no-nuclear-deal-reached/ Follow our experts on Twitter: @NotTVJessJones @morganlroach@amykmitchell@lestermunsonLike what we're doing here?  Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.  And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/n8jDdjPvV64 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.