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This episode got raw.
In Episode 2 of our series, we sit down as husband and wife and say the words that made us most vulnerable:
we don’t need each other.
What started as an honest conversation turned emotional—tears, tension, disagreements, and a level of vulnerability we’ve never shared publicly. We talk about breaking free from co-dependency, redefining partnership, and what it actually means to choose each other instead of needing each other to survive.
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👉 Did it challenge how you see relationships?
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(00:00) we don’t need each other
(03:00) accolades, do they matter?
(10:43) what’s factual vs what’s emotional
(15:00) “it doesn’t mean anything if you’re by yourself”
(18:47) can you have an integrated, codependent marriage?
(26:05) we can, but we’re better as a team
(31:11) “i could, but is that what i want?”
(38:22) choosing each other
(43:56) we don’t know, but we’re trying
(52:16) is the grass greener? can i do this alone?
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