My Conversation with the Newsboys—And What the Church Needs to Hear (w/ Adam Agee & Jeff Frankenstein) - Ep. 151

God does not waste our brokenness—in fact, He weaves it into something beautiful. For Christian parents facing heartache, disability, or shattered expectations, this truth is not only comforting—it is transformative. In this powerful “Best Of” episode, host Catherine shares one of her most beloved interviews with Andy Howard, author of When Words Don’t Come Easy and father to a daughter with profound special needs. Together, they wrestle with the question: How does God bring beauty from the most broken parts of our lives? Andy recounts his family’s journey after their daughter Peyton’s diagnosis—her lifelong inability to walk or speak, and the deep despair that followed. Yet, through a moving moment on a beach, God showed Andy that He cherishes the broken as much as the whole. Peyton’s life, though different from what he imagined, has become a source of profound joy, purpose, and testimony, touching more lives than Andy ever expected. Catherine and Andy also discuss critically needed ways Christians can support families with special needs: by offering acknowledgment, compassion, and connection—treating every child and parent with the dignity and attention they deserve. Key Insights and Takeaways: The Beauty in Brokenness – God often reframes what the world calls “broken”; Peyton’s life exemplifies beauty, purpose, and joy, reminding us that divine value supersedes worldly milestones. A Call to Compassion – Andy offers practical advice for supporting special needs families: acknowledge them, approach them, and affirm the dignity and purpose of every child. A simple greeting or act of kindness can mean the world. Strength for the Journey – For parents wondering if they are “strong enough,” Andy reiterates that it’s not about innate strength, but about building on the foundation of Christ. “Keep your foundation on God, on Christ. No matter what comes your way, you can do it. You really can with His help.” Perspective and Purpose – While Andy once prayed for a viral miracle, God had a different plan. Today, Peyton’s quiet witness and Andy’s message of hope encourage families across the globe. About Andy Howard:For over 20 years, Andy Howard has served in ministry as a youth pastor and marriage ministry pastor. A passionate advocate for mental health awareness, Andy has personally walked through the valley of depression—at one point tipping the scales at 345 lbs. as he tried to cope with family trauma through food. But God had more in store. Together with his wife Tiffany, Andy has lost over 350 lbs. combined and co-founded a transformational health coaching business called Taking Back My Life, helping thousands reclaim physical and emotional wellness. Andy is the host of the When Words Don’t Come Easy podcast and author of a book by the same name. He lives in Bryan, Texas with Tiffany and their three beautiful daughters: Payton, Parker, and Presley.   Resources Mentioned: Andy’s WEBSITE Andy’s podcast: When Words Don’t Come Easy Andy’s book: When Words Don’t Come Easy Catherine’s episode on Andy’s podcast: From Grief to Redemption: Catherine Segars’ Powerful Story of Faith, Love, and Redemption Download Catherine Segars’ free ebook for moms, “Beyond the Lies: Uncovering Five Myths Our Culture Spreads to Mothers,” at catherinesegars.com For every parent walking through shadows, this conversation is a reminder: Your brokenness can become a testimony, and the hope of Christ is strong enough to transform any story. Want more inspiration? Subscribe, review, and share Christian Parent/Crazy World, and follow Catherine on Instagram and Facebook for new episodes and resources. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

There are few things more painful than hearing God say no. Especially when we’re pleading—not for riches or success—but for healing. For hope. For our child. We fast. We pray. We believe. We speak life over the situation. And still, the miracle doesn’t come… at least not the one we hoped for. In this special Best Of archive episode from two years ago, we revisit a deeply moving conversation that is just as relevant today as the day it aired. This story is evergreen, because the struggle to understand God’s will in seasons of sorrow is one we all face—especially as parents. My guest, Andy Howard, knows that struggle intimately. When his firstborn daughter, Payton, received a devastating diagnosis at Dallas Children’s Hospital, Andy’s world collapsed. The weight of that moment spiraled into a four-year battle with depression. But God didn’t leave him there. In this first installment of our two-part conversation, Andy shares how God met him in the most unexpected and intimate ways in his darkest valley. You’ll hear: How Andy and his wife navigated a life-altering diagnosis The gut-wrenching process of accepting an answer from God that wasn’t what they prayed for The tender message God spoke to Andy in the midst of the heartbreak Why suffering doesn’t mean God has abandoned us—and how beauty can truly rise from brokenness Next week, we’ll hear Part 2, where Andy shares the redemptive turn in his story, how Payton is doing today, and how we as the Church can come alongside special needs families with compassion and strength. This episode will speak to the places in your heart that still carry questions. It’s a sacred story you don’t want to miss. Let’s Stay Connected!To see video clips from this conversation, as well as powerful quotes and encouragement for your parenting journey, connect with me on Instagram and Facebook.For updates on each new podcast episode and free resources like: Scripture songs Bible verses to pray over prodigal children A topical index of Scriptures for prayer ...be sure to subscribe to my website. About Andy Howard:For over 20 years, Andy Howard has served in ministry as a youth pastor and marriage ministry pastor. A passionate advocate for mental health awareness, Andy has personally walked through the valley of depression—at one point tipping the scales at 345 lbs. as he tried to cope with family trauma through food. But God had more in store. Together with his wife Tiffany, Andy has lost over 350 lbs. combined and co-founded a transformational health coaching business called Taking Back My Life, helping thousands reclaim physical and emotional wellness. Andy is the host of the When Words Don’t Come Easy podcast and author of a book by the same name. He lives in Bryan, Texas with Tiffany and their three beautiful daughters: Payton, Parker, and Presley. Resources Mentioned: Andy’s WEBSITE Andy’s podcast: When Words Don’t Come Easy Andy’s book: When Words Don’t Come Easy Catherine’s episode on Andy’s podcast: From Grief to Redemption: Catherine Segars’ Powerful Story of Faith, Love, and Redemption CPCW Episode 66: “How Can A Good God Allow So Much Evil and Suffering in the World?” (w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis) Scriptures Referenced: Matthew 11:6 Job 13:15 Isaiah 61:1-4 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Nothing shakes the church—and Christian families—like the shattering fall of a trusted leader. With the recent explosive scandal surrounding the Newsboys and Michael Tait, this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World tackles the urgent, sobering question: Why do so many Christian leaders keep falling, and how can parents respond and lead their families through the fallout of hypocrisy in the church? In this must-listen episode, Catherine sat down with Adam Agee and Jeff Frankenstein of the Newsboys for what was meant to be a joyful, lighthearted Father’s Day special on faith, family, and legacy. Just hours after recording, devastating news of one of the biggest scandals in Christian music history broke—bringing the darker reality of double lives and hidden sin to center stage. The conversation with Adam and Jeff dives into their lives as fathers, their experiences balancing family with the demands of a global touring band, and the multi-generational legacy of the Newsboys. They reflect on the influence of their own fathers, sharing powerful stories of integrity, faith, sacrifice, and steadfastness—qualities now more critical than ever in light of public failures within Christian circles. Yet, as Catherine points out in her heartfelt message at the end of the episode, the discussion takes on new and poignant meaning: what does it mean to be authentic behind closed doors? How do we raise our children in a world where even spiritual heroes fall? And, ultimately, what must the Western church do to break the cycle of idolizing celebrities instead of worshiping Christ alone? Episode highlights: The candid, behind-the-scenes reality of life in a band famous for its ministry and impact over forty years Jeff and Adam’s reflections on fatherhood, work-life balance, and lessons learned from their own dads A moving discussion of legacy—what truly matters when all the spotlight fades Catherine’s unfiltered, Spirit-led call to the church: a challenge to stop worshipping the gifts and start seeking the Giver, to reject celebrity culture, and to “climb the mountain” into God’s presence and holiness The episode closes with a stirring reminder from Catherine: “We must rid ourselves of these idols and climb the mountain to worship the one true God.” Every parent, leader, and believer will find encouragement, conviction, and hope in the call to stop seeking our own glory and to, instead, turn our eyes upon Jesus. Guest Bios: Adam Agee is Newsboys’ newest lead singer, formerly part of Audio Adrenaline and Stellar Kart, a veteran musician and devoted dad. Jeff Frankenstein has been the Newsboys’ keyboardist for over thirty years, a father of five, and a thoughtful leader both on and off stage. Takeaways: How Christian parents can help their kids process the pain of public scandal and hypocrisy in the church Why integrity at home—and in private—is the cornerstone of spiritual legacy A biblical reminder that the Western church must stop elevating personalities and start seeking God’s presence above all For listeners shaken or disillusioned by recent events in the church, this episode delivers both realism and a rallying cry to return to Christ—our only true foundation and fortress. EPISODE RESOURCES: EXCLUSIVE: Former Newsboys Frontman Michael Tait Accused of Sexual Assault, Grooming, and Substance Abuse, Dating Back to 2004 by Jessica Morris, The Roys Report Michael Tait Admits to “Living Two Distinctly Different Lives,” Involving Cocaine and Sexual Assault by Jessica Morris, The Roys Report K-LOVE Pulls Newsboys and DC Talk From Rotation Following Tait Sex Abuse Allegations by Jessica Morris, The Roys Report Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

When the world feels upside down, Christian parents are called to stand firm—but what happens when the very systems meant to protect our children threaten their bodies, minds, and hearts? Catherine sits down with Leigh-Allyn Baker—former Disney star turned medical freedom advocate and children’s author—to unpack one of the most divisive and urgent issues facing families today: how to safeguard our kids’ health and souls in a culture that often disregards parental rights, pushes conformity, and floods young minds with spiritually corrosive media. Key Highlights from This Episode: The Battle for Medical Freedom: Leigh-Allyn details her family’s experience with vaccine injury, the shocking aftermath, and why she fled California to protect her children from mandates and discrimination. When Standing Up Comes with a Price: Hear Leigh-Allyn’s account of going viral after speaking to a Tennessee school board—only to be publicly labeled a “domestic terrorist.” What Parents Aren’t Being Told: Learn why informed consent is more important than ever—from questionable laws stripping exemptions, to stories that never make the news. A Deeper Look at “Safe” Expert Advice: Featuring an eye-opening segment with Dr. Marty MaKary on how misguided medical recommendations (like those that caused America’s peanut allergy epidemic) remind us to question everything. Guarding Kids' Hearts AND Minds: Leigh-Allyn shares the transformation in her own faith, how “what you let into your body and your spirit” truly matters, and the link between physical and spiritual health. Raising Kids with Courage: Discover Leigh Allyn’s new book, One Small Little Voice, and her work with Kirk Cameron on Iggy and Mr. Kirk—a wholesome, biblical kids’ show designed to counteract Hollywood’s harmful messages. Why CONTENT Matters: Understand the real agenda behind children’s programming today—and what you can do to fill your child’s mind with truth and light. Why This Conversation Matters:In an era when every sphere—from schools to screens—competes for our children’s hearts, Christian parents can’t afford to be passive or uninformed. This episode is both a wake-up call and a roadmap: Stand up. Ask questions. Protect your rights. And above all, pour godly wisdom, beauty, and love into the next generation. About the Guest: Leigh-Allyn Baker is an American actress. She had recurring roles on Charmed and Will & Grace, and a starring role as mother Amy Duncan on the Disney Channel sitcom Good Luck Charlie. After leaving California, she became an outspoken advocate for parental rights and medical freedom, drawing on her own family’s journey through vaccine injury. Now based in Tennessee, she has teamed up with Brave Books to release One Small Little Voice and is starring with Kirk Cameron in “Iggy and Mr. Kirk.” Episode Resources: One Small Little Voice by Leigh Allyn Baker Brave Books Brave Streaming Service “Iggy and Mr. Kirk” Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3 Leigh-Allyn’s Viral School Board Meeting “Exposing the Truth about Peanut Allergies” The Megyn Kelly Show Blind Spots by Dr. Marty Makary Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

What if a 2,700-year-old prophecy could explain the chaos in America today—and offer your family a roadmap to understand our times? If you’ve ever wondered whether Scripture speaks to the headlines—or how to make biblical prophecy compelling and relatable for the next generation—this episode is for you. Catherine welcomes back internationally acclaimed best-selling author and prophetic voice Jonathan Cahn for a powerful conversation that bridges ancient truth with modern turmoil. Known by many as one of the most influential Christian leaders of our time, Jonathan returns to discuss the reimagining of his groundbreaking book The Harbinger—a New York Times bestseller for over 100 weeks—now released as a stunning, fully illustrated graphic novel designed to captivate a new generation. Together, Catherine and Jonathan explore why biblical prophecy isn’t just a theological niche—it’s a vital tool for apologetics and a faith-building resource for parents and teens alike. With clarity and conviction, Jonathan unveils the uncanny and often chilling ways that the prophetic patterns of ancient Israel are unfolding in America today. In this episode, you’ll discover: The shocking biblical parallels between Israel’s fall and America’s spiritual decline How prophecy can transform your family’s faith and spark meaningful dialogue with your teens Why modern-day prophetic fulfillment serves as a powerful and often overlooked defense of the Christian faith Jonathan shares how specific warnings from Scripture—originally spoken to ancient Israel—are now echoing in America through real-world events, political acts, and public declarations. These harbingers manifest in physical objects and moments of national significance—often through leaders who are unaware they are echoing the voice of God. From the fallen sycamore tree at Ground Zero to prophetic utterances on Capitol Hill, this conversation builds a compelling case for the supernatural accuracy of God’s Word. Don’t miss these unforgettable moments: Jonathan’s miraculous journey from never having written a book to penning The Harbinger, and the prophetic confirmations that guided him The jaw-dropping fact that Isaiah 9:10—the very verse warning of judgment—was the daily reading in the One Year Bible on September 11th… sixteen years before 9/11 A powerful discussion about America’s current “window of opportunity” for revival—and how humility, repentance, and prayer are key to changing the course of our nation Jonathan delivers a sobering reminder: “If we change the laws but don’t change the people, the unchanged people will change the laws back… The only thing that can save America is repentance and revival.” And Catherine challenges parents to respond with faith, not fear: “The signs of the times are not a cause to be afraid, but a call to return.” As you listen, ask yourself:What might God be saying to your family through the shaking of our times?How can you use prophecy—not only to defend your faith—but to plant seeds of unshakable hope in your children’s hearts? About the guest: Jonathan Cahn has been named along with Billy Graham as one of the top spiritual leaders to have radically impacted our world in modern times. He has spoken at the United Nations, on Capitol Hill, to members of Congress, and to millions around the world. Every one of his books, starting with The Harbinger onward, has become a New York Times bestseller. He is recognized as a prophetic voice for our times. His teachings and prophetic words on YouTube have received over 100 million views. He leads Beth Israel at the Jerusalem Center in Wayne, New Jersey, and Hope of the World ministry, a world outreach of God’s Word and compassion to the world’s most needy. Episode Resources: The Harbinger: A Graphic Novel (June 3, 2025) The Dragon's Prophecy: Israel, the Dark Resurrection, and the End of Days The Return of the Gods Beth Israel Worship Center Hope of the World Ministries   Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Are your kids prepared to withstand the tidal waves of our culture—or will they get swept away? The cultural currents our kids are facing aren’t just subtle—they’re hitting like tidal waves, challenging the very foundations of our parenting. If you’ve ever wondered what exactly our kids are up against and how in the world we, as parents, can help them stand strong, this “Best Of” episode of CP/CW is for you. Catherine welcomes back Dr. Jonathan Morrow, a true heavyweight in the world of apologetics and worldview training. With over 18 years equipping students and parents, Dr. Morrow is uniquely qualified to map out the storms facing our kids—and how you can help them stand strong. To unpack these seismic shifts, Jonathan digs deep into the five biggest challenges facing this generation. He doesn’t just identify headlines or surface trends—he gets to the heart of what’s shaping our kids every single day. In this episode, Dr. Morrow casts an unflinching light on what he calls the “cultural waves” crashing down on Gen Z and Gen Alpha: Digital Saturation & Distraction: Our kids are drowning in digital noise—a reality that shapes their minds and depletes their ability to reflect deeply on truth. “If Christianity never calls us to look different than the culture in which we’re in, we might want to reevaluate.” ~ Jonathan Morrow Scientism: Society treats the hard sciences as the only trustworthy source of truth, quietly nudging faith and morality out of the conversation. “If science is the only way you know something, guess what you can’t have knowledge of? Morality, spirituality, and history.” ~ Jonathan Morrow Relativism: “You do you.” In a world where truth is seen as subjective, our kids are tempted to believe there is no objective reality—just personal preference. Tribalism: Forget persuasion; today’s climate is about power and alliances. The result? A deeper us-vs-them mentality that threatens the unity Christ calls us to embody. The New Sexual Revolution: Cultural norms around sexuality and gender have been radically redefined—impacting even how our children understand themselves and others. Progressive Christianity: When secular ideologies get relabeled as Christian, children and teens may be drawn in by messages of acceptance and activism while losing sight of the Gospel’s transformative core. This episode isn’t just an exposé of what’s broken in our world—it’s packed with encouragement, powerful insights, and actionable wisdom that will help you and your kids become steadfast in faith. Don’t let culture catch your family off guard. Will you be a passive observer—or will you become the anchor your family needs? About the Guest:Jonathan Morrow holds master’s degrees in divinity and philosophy of religion and ethics, a doctorate in worldview and culture, and serves as Director of Cultural Engagement at Impact 360 Institute. He’s the author of Welcome to College, Questioning the Bible: 11 Major Challenges to the Bible's Authority, and Is God Just a Human Invention, and has trained thousands of young believers to build a lasting, reasonable, and robust faith.  Resources & Next Steps: Other Episodes in this Series: Bridging the Generation Gap - 5 Keys to Reaching the Next Generation w/ Dr. Jonathan Morrow Learn more about Impact 360’s life-changing programs at impact360.org Grab Jonathan’s free resource, The Case for Christianity in Four Words, and discover his course for parents at jonathanmorrow.org Subscribe for more parenting resources at catherinesegars.com Share this episode with a fellow parent or leader navigating the Gen Z gap Let’s raise a generation that owns their faith and shines in the “crazy world” they’ve inherited—by God’s design, and for His glory. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

How do we reach a generation that speaks an entirely different language—one shaped by screens, skepticism, and seismic cultural shifts? For Christian parents, grandparents, and youth leaders, it’s the challenge—and opportunity—of our age. In this compelling “best of” episode, Catherine sits down with renowned Christian apologist Dr. Jonathan Morrow to unlock the secrets of relating to Gen Z and Gen Alpha. As Director of Cultural Engagement and Student Discipleship at Impact 360 Institute, adjunct professor at Biola University, and the author of celebrated apologetics books, Jonathan brings nearly two decades of front-line experience equipping young people for lasting faith in a post-Christian world. Together, Catherine and Jonathan dive deep into five essential insights every adult needs to know about Gen Z: Why Gen Z are true “screenagers”—and how the digital world is dramatically accelerating and intensifying the questions of identity, meaning, and truth. How Gen Z is now thoroughly post-Christian, with only 4% holding a biblical worldview—what that means for sharing faith, and why “business as usual” discipleship just won’t work. The rise of “safe spaces,” intellectual bubble wrap, and the urgent need to introduce challenge and opposing ideas—inside the safety of Christian love and guidance. The paradox of safety: why today’s students crave safe spaces yet feel more unsafe, anxious, and mentally strained than ever before—and how parents can provide real security and hope. The opportunity and challenge of unprecedented diversity—what the Bible says about ethnicity, and how to navigate the subtle pitfalls of secular approaches to justice and inclusion. Throughout the episode, Jonathan shares real-world examples and tested strategies including immersive learning, intentional worldview training, and how to disciple students for life in “Babylon,” not Jerusalem. “There’s a world we want, and there’s the world that is—and they’re not the same world,” Jonathan observes, urging parents: “If we’re not intentionally helping them understand that truth exists and you can know it, they’re going to become Christian relativists.” This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to faithfully guide the next generation to lasting faith—while respecting their unique struggles and leveraging their immense potential. Every generation faces its intersection with culture—this is ours. Notable Episode Moments: The hilarious nostalgia of card catalogs and how research has changed forever Practical advice for introducing “bad ideas” in healthy, guided ways—building spiritual and intellectual muscle Why anxiety, depression, and loneliness are skyrocketing, and where young people can find lasting safety A clear-eyed look at diversity: its beautiful biblical roots and how to celebrate differences without embracing every passing trend Are you proactively training your kids for the world as it is—or the world you wish it was? What is one step you can take this week to intentionally disciple your child amid the pressures and possibilities of Gen Z’s reality? Tune in for a conversation packed with actionable hope, fresh perspective, and the tools every Christian parent needs for today’s crazy world. About the Guest:Jonathan Morrow holds master’s degrees in divinity and philosophy of religion and ethics, a doctorate in worldview and culture, and serves as Director of Cultural Engagement at Impact 360 Institute. He’s the author of Welcome to College, Questioning the Bible: 11 Major Challenges to the Bible's Authority, and Is God Just a Human Invention, and has trained thousands of young believers to build a lasting, reasonable, and robust faith.   Resources & Next Steps: Learn more about Impact 360’s life-changing programs at impact360.org Grab Jonathan’s free resource, The Case for Christianity in Four Words, and discover his course for parents at jonathanmorrow.org Subscribe for more parenting resources at catherinesegars.com Share this episode with a fellow parent or leader navigating the Gen Z gap Let’s raise a generation that owns their faith and shines in the “crazy world” they’ve inherited—by God’s design, and for His glory. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Is Your Church Still the Right Soil for Your Family's Faith? The soil you plant your family’s faith in matters more than we often realize. It’s not just about where you go on Sunday—it’s about the spiritual environment shaping your children’s hearts every single week. And sometimes, the signs that something’s off are easy to miss… until it’s almost too late. In this eye-opening episode, Catherine gets real about a question that many Christian parents quietly wrestle with: “How do I know if it’s time to find a new church home?” Drawing from her own family’s deeply personal (and painful) church transition, Catherine walks through six red flags that might mean your current church isn’t cultivating the spiritual growth your family needs. They are: When churches skip parts of the Bible.If whole books or tough topics are off the table, your kids won’t get the full truth they need to stand firm in their faith. When the flesh goes unchallenged.A feel-good message might draw a crowd, but if no one’s being stretched or sanctified, something’s missing. When there’s a disconnect between evangelism and discipleship.Getting people in the door is important—but so is growing deep roots. If your church leans too hard one way, it leaves gaps that can stunt faith. When charisma outweighs character.A church built around a magnetic personality rather than godly integrity can quickly become a breeding ground for spiritual fallout. When the Holy Spirit has no room to move.Programs and polish are fine—but without the Spirit’s power, real transformation doesn’t happen. When the youth group is spiritually flat.If the next generation isn’t fired up for Jesus, it’s time to ask some hard questions about what seeds are (or aren’t) being sown. With honesty, compassion, and hard-won wisdom, she shines a light on issues that are often ignored—but have huge consequences. This isn’t about being picky—it’s about being purposeful. Catherine reminds us that the stakes are high when it comes to our kids’ spiritual formation. The cost of change can be steep, but the fruit of a thriving, Spirit-led church family is worth every step. In this episode, you’ll also learn: Why glossing over hard truths sets kids up for weak faith How to spot signs of spiritual stagnation in your home The warning signs of a numbers-driven, personality-centered church culture What to look for in a youth group that truly disciples your kids Encouragement for parents facing tough church decisions Mentioned Resources: ✨ Catherine’s free Prodigal Bundle: Hope-filled tools, Scripture lists, and encouragement for parents of prodigals → Download it here 📖 The Heavenly Man by Brother Yun – a powerful testimony of bold, persecuted faith Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Is the American church asleep at the wheel—on the very edge of spiritual collapse while pretending all is well? In one of the most profound and challenging episodes yet, Catherine welcomes world-renowned evangelist Nick Vujicic to the show for a candid, no-holds-barred conversation that every Christian parent needs to hear. Born without arms or legs, Nick’s extraordinary journey from hopelessness to hope has reached over 2 billion people across 74 countries. But today, his urgent warning is not for the world, but for the American church and its families. Nick Vujicic pulls no punches, declaring: “We are asleep, we're on a ventilator… If we don't actually repent as a country, we're about to be jack hammered, dude.” This episode began in Episode 146 with intentions to discuss cancel culture and Christian values in finance but quickly transforms—through a “divine interruption”—into a prophetic wake-up call. The conversation exposes the deep divides, delusions, and complacency within the Western church, shining a light on the dire need for unity, repentance, and genuine disciple-making. Key insights and takeaways: The American church is dangerously divided, distracted by political tribalism, and often failing to address real issues like pornography, mental health, and compassion for the hurting. Nick laments the “delusional” state of believers who substitute church growth for true discipleship, warning that, “We are going to be the biggest judged country in the world because we were given the most. And look at what we've done.” Leadership accountability is critical: Many pastors are unable to address taboo topics like sexual addiction and abortion, often because they themselves are ensnared or complicit. True revival starts at home: Nick urges parents to reclaim spiritual leadership, prioritize Scripture memorization, serve the poor, and model real faith—instead of outsourcing spiritual formation to church leaders. Catherine echoes Nick’s call, sharing how a change in church “soil” radically transformed her children’s faith journey and underlining the need for churches that are both uncompromising and overflowing with love for the lost. Notable moments: Nick’s passionate critique: “If your church didn’t teach you how to preach to your neighbor in love, they failed you.” A heartfelt challenge to pastors and youth leaders: “If you actually allow one of His kids to get off the path, it’s better for you to commit suicide… That’s how sacred your job is.” Catherine’s warning: “We can’t make America great again if we don’t know what made it great in the first place… we need a deep church, not a wide church.” About Our Guest: Nick Vujicic is a world-renowned evangelist, motivational speaker, and founder of Nick V Ministries. Born without arms or legs in Australia, Nick has inspired millions across 84 countries, reaching over 2 billion people with the message of hope and Jesus Christ. After facing cancelation by his own bank for his Christian convictions, Nick co-founded ProLife Fintech to empower believers to steward their finances according to their faith. Despite being “canceled” by major corporations for his faith, Nick refuses to back down from the call to awaken and unite the church. Parents, are you awake? Are you equipping your children with a biblically grounded faith that can withstand the pressures and confusions of today’s world? Are you modeling true discipleship—or just religious activity? Tune in to this urgent, eye-opening episode and consider: What is God calling you and your family to change? And is it time to plant your family in deeper soil for the sake of your children’s faith? EPISODE LINKS: Nick V Ministries ProLife Fintech “Going from Megachurch to Microchuruch” The Roys Report Don’t miss next week’s follow-up as Catherine shares practical steps on discerning when—and how—to find a faith community that champions both truth and love. This is the wake-up call we all need.   Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Is your money funding causes you stand against? Most Christian families have no idea that their bank may be silently supporting abortion, transgender procedures for minors, and even the silencing of believers. In this powerful episode, Catherine sits down with world-renowned evangelist and motivational speaker Nick Vujicic to expose the dangerous influence financial institutions have over people of faith—and what you can do about it. After being canceled by his own bank for his biblical convictions, Nick uncovered just how deeply major financial institutions are entangled with political agendas that directly oppose Christian values. From funding Planned Parenthood to freezing accounts of those who dare to speak truth, the reality is more shocking—and more urgent—than most realize. In this episode, Catherine and Nick discuss: Nick’s incredible testimony: from a childhood without limbs or hope to becoming a global evangelist who has reached billions with the Gospel. How his family's courageous stand for faith under Communist Yugoslavia shaped his unshakable trust in God. The shocking story of how Nick’s bank dropped him in 2019 based on false accusations tied to his Christian beliefs. Why many major banks today are quietly supporting abortion, gender ideology for minors, and anti-biblical movements. How ESG (Environmental, Social, Governance) policies and massive investment firms like BlackRock are setting agendas that impact your money—and your family. How financial institutions are increasingly weaponizing money to silence Christian voices. Practical steps every Christian family can take to align their banking with their biblical values. Nick’s exciting launch of ProLife Fintech, a groundbreaking banking alternative created specifically for faith-driven families and organizations. Nick also shares how ProLife Fintech is not just a financial service—it's a movement to reclaim financial stewardship for the Kingdom, ensuring that your resources advance life, liberty, and biblical truth.   Guest Bio: Nick Vujicic is a world-renowned evangelist, motivational speaker, and founder of Nick V Ministries. Born without arms or legs in Australia, Nick has inspired millions across 84 countries, reaching over 2 billion people with the message of hope and Jesus Christ. After facing cancelation by his own bank for his Christian convictions, Nick co-founded ProLife Fintech to empower believers to steward their finances according to their faith.   Resources Mentioned: 🌟 Learn more about ProLife Fintech and open an account 🙌 Nick V Ministries 📚 Connect with Catherine Segars and download her free ebook for moms   Don't Miss This: Next week, Catherine and Nick dive even deeper with a prophetic challenge to the American church—and why planting your family in the right spiritual soil could change everything.   Are you ready to put your money where your faith is?Don't miss this urgent, eye-opening conversation! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.