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Nobody has ever called Roman asking, "Do you do CAS?" Not once. In this episode of No Half Sends (formerly CAS Minute), Roman explains why he's retiring the show's old name and why accounting firms should stop selling "CAS" too. Client accounting services, client advisory services, CAAS: the profession still can't agree on what it means, and clients never use the term. They buy outcomes like cash visibility, hiring decisions, and fundraising readiness. With AI and software compressing the transactional work that sits under the CAS label, Roman argues that firms built around the name are anchoring to the part of the work being automated, and that the real conversation is about what firms sell, how they grow, and what happens to their people.

Whether you're an accounting firm owner rethinking your positioning, a CAS or advisory leader building service lines, or an emerging leader wondering where the profession is headed, this episode makes the case for marketing outcomes instead of labels, and lays out what's changing on the show going forward.

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ā±ļø Chapters
00:00 – Nobody Has Ever Asked for "CAS"
00:44 – CAS Is Firm Language, Not Client Language
02:19 – The Work Under the Label Is Being Automated
03:41 – The Real Subject: The Firm and Its People
04:57 – The Case for Keeping "CAS"
06:24 – What This Means for Your Firm
07:07 – What's Changing on No Half Sends

āœ… Key Takeaways
- "CAS" is firm language. Clients ask why cash is tight or whether they can afford to hire, never for a service line.
- Vague labels lead to vague pricing and vague services. Position around the outcome the client actually buys.
- AI and software are compressing the transactional work under the CAS label, so naming your firm after it is a risky bet.
- Keep "CAS" internally if it helps with benchmarking, org charts, career paths, or service-line P&Ls. Just stop selling it.
- The hard question: if 80% of your transactional work were automated, what would clients still pay you for?

šŸ”— Mentioned in this episode
- Sequoia Capital, "Services: The New Software"
- CPA.com CAS Benchmark Survey

Disclosure: Roman has served on accounting advisory boards for Intuit, Ramp, Gusto, Mercury, and CPA.com.

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No Half Sends (formerly CAS Minute) is a show about firm growth, AI, and the future of accounting, from an operator who's building it in real time.


Disclosure: Roman has served on accounting advisory boards for Intuit, Ramp, Gusto, Mercury, and CPA.com.

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