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Out of No Man’s Land: What Happens When Systems Nerds Get in the Same Room (Bonus Episode)

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This is a special bonus episode of Build Your Own Fairytale, recorded live, in real life, while I was in Nashville with two of my favorite fellow systems strategists and business friends.

What started as a casual “let’s finally get together in person” trip quickly turned into something much bigger — real conversations, honest pushback, whiteboard brainstorming, and one brand-new business idea that went from thought to action in under 24 hours.

If you listened to the previous episode about consistency and being stuck in no man’s land, this conversation is the natural next chapter.

In this episode, we talk about:

  • How three “competitors” became genuine business besties
  • Why being in the room together still matters (even in an online world)
  • What actually helps ideas move out of no man’s land and into momentum
  • And what happens when smart women give each other honest, supportive pushback

You’ll also hear how this Nashville trip sparked early conversations around creating intentional space for business owners — part strategy, part systems, part breathing room — and why we’re inviting listeners into that conversation from the very beginning.

If you’ve ever felt stuck between knowing what you want to do and actually doing it, this episode is for you.


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Learn more and connect with my guests here:

Deb Mitzel: debmitzelcreative.com and @debmitzelcreative on IG
Nicole Larson: letnicolehelp.com and @letnicolehelp on IG


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