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Album 8 Track 6 - Step Up. Speak Up. Move Up. w/Shawna Hausman

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Album 8 Track 6 - Step Up. Speak Up. Move Up. w/Shawna Hausman


Brand Nerds, get ready to take some serious notes! On this episode of Brands, Beats and Bytes, hosts Darryl "DC" Cobbin and Larry "LT" Taman sit down with retail and digital marketing powerhouse Shawna Hausman. From her scrappy early days in the Gap Inc. universe to driving a massive 300% sales increase as CMO of FSA Store, Shawna has built an incredible career by stepping up, speaking out, and never letting fear dictate her next move.


Shawna takes us behind the scenes of some of the most iconic retail brands, sharing hilarious and anxiety-inducing stories, like the time she told retail legend Mickey Drexler that his marketing wasn't working when she was just a 22-year-old intern! We also dive deep into the modern marketing landscape, discussing everything from the rise of AI to why heritage brands like Birkenstock are winning by refusing to compromise their identity.


Whether you are looking to climb the corporate ladder, pivot into consulting, or simply understand the psychology of retail sales, this episode is packed with "Triple C" leadership advice: Clarity, Conviction, and Courage.


What You'll Learn in This Episode:

  • The Mickey Drexler Story: How a bold critique from a young intern led to an unexpected seat on the corporate jet with the "Merchant Prince" himself.
  • Avoiding the "Mushy Middle": Why brand overlap (like the historical dynamic between The Gap and Old Navy) can eat your own market share, and why you must carve out distinct lanes.
  • The Power of Executive Buy-In: Shawna gets vulnerable about her biggest career "F-up" involving an unapproved $40,000 app at West Elm, and why you absolutely need skin in the game from your key overlords.
  • Embracing AI: Why marketers must lean into artificial intelligence tools rather than fearing them, and how it is revolutionizing the way we work today.
  • The Birkenstock Strategy: How "winning ugly," maintaining scarcity, and leaning unapologetically into comfort and heritage is keeping Birkenstock at the top of the footwear game.
  • Fearless Career Growth: Why you should never stay in a miserable job just for the money, and how taking calculated risks leads to the real magic.

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