#46 Reunion

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder reunite after 17 months of Both/And hiatus. In this wide-ranging conversation, they talk about what they've been up to and how their perspectives of the sensemaking/meta/liminal web have changed.

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder come back one more time to give awards to stand-out Both/And episodes. First, they talk about what they've been up to for the past couple of months and then get to the awards: Most Convivial, Most Intellectually Stimulating, Most Challenging to My Worldview, Most Star-Struck, & MVP. Along the way, they also make a bunch of honorable mentions. In this Episode of Both/And Award Winners #22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality with Jessica #37 Dancing with COVID with Sarah McManus #42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson #25 Horrorism & Culture with Zero HP Lovecraft #29 Reducing Suffering with Evan Sandhoefner #14 Paradigm Shifting with Erik Davis #19 Contextualizing the Spiritual with Jordan Hall #32 Regenerating Earth with Joe Brewer #41 Simpol Global Action with John Bunzl Mentions Donella Meadows' paper, Leverage Points Tyson Yunkaporta's book, Sand Talk Both/And Meets Growing Down #30 Aesthetic Embodiment with Rachel Haywire #4 Climate Change Adaptation & Meditation with Udita Sanga #24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze with Justin Murphy #9 Analyzing Both And with Nathan Snyder #2 Memetic Mediation with Peter Limberg Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder talk about Both/And's hiatus, the sensemaking web, podcasting as a medium, memetic mediation, local community, going 'meta', spirituality, their friendship, COVID, contemporary Vajrayana Buddism, their political triggers, the meta/integral left, GameB, thank you's, the Both/And awards, and more. In this Episode of Both/And Jason's article, The Psychodynamics of Memetic Mediation Jared's new Podcast Jared & Charlie's Stoa Session Twitter Questions Joe Brewer The Unsettling of America by Wendell Berry Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta The Jim Rutt Show and The Wright Show JRS: EP63 Michel Bauwens on P2P & Commons Tyson Yunkaporta on the Jim Rutt Show: Part 1 and Part 2 Aro gTér Buddhism Charlie Awbery Unified Mindfulness Culadasa Growing Down Podcast with Jeremy Johnson and Ryan Nakade B/A #42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson    Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Leslie Rogers about what led him to start the Light Dark Institute, being in a sex cult, kink & BDSM, his dark awakening, personality & identity transformation, dark desires, the difference between light & dark personal work, orgasmic meditation & other influences on Leslie's practices, tantra, archetypes & deities, pleasure, healing & processing, triggering & mythopoetic power, tribal psycho technologies, nonduality, Jared's inner cynic, civilization collapse & catastrophe, death, pain as pleasure, humiliation, stoicism, and more. Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Jeremy Johnson about what led to his interest in Jean Gebser, the nebulosity of time, non-linear consciousness evolution & developmental theory, Gebser's poetic disposition & extraordinary writing style, the un-perspectival world, integral consciousness, the limits of intellect & complex abstraction, the ever-present, mythical consciousness, pattern & nebulosity, wholeness & the spiritual elements of Gebser's work, process orientation vs systemization, maps as living systems, comparing Gebser's view to Integral levels, the danger of meta-theories, the value of pop art, and more. In this Episode of Both/And Mutations Podcast Jeremy's Patreon Jeremy's book, Seeing Through the World Liminal Magazine The Ever-Present Origin by Jean Gebser The Phenomenon of Man by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin The Progress of This Storm by Andreas Malm Jeremy's Side View article, Meta, Modern Small Arcs of Larger Circles by Nora Bateson Twitter Questions Figuring by Maria Popova Seeing That Frees by Rob Burbea Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes   Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with John Bunzl about why he started Simpol & how it enables global cooperation, his multi-issue approach to global issues, UN target failures, first-mover criteria, the democratic accountability strategy, partisanship, global pandemic preparation, efficiency vs resilience, power in metrics, cooperative competition, biomimicry in Simpol, Simpol's history & progress, the role of the nation-state, regional cooperation, diversity & locality, tyranny, getting involved, and more. In this Episode of Both/And (recorded 4/21/20) Simpol The Stoa Twitter Questions Simpol Policy Information Pack The SIMPOL SOLUTION Book Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder talk about humility, memetic mediation, Patreon goals & perks, acting from uncertainty, embodiment & trauma/baggage, map vs territory, individual vs group development, mindfulness, compassion, nonduality & enlightenment, tantric practice, guru abuse, emerging modern spirituality & the limitations of intellect, the void, subtle sensations & the brilliance of the mundane, constructed cognition, what we're both concentrated on at the moment, and more. In this Episode of Both/And Both/And Patreon The Stoa Jared's The Good, the True, the Beautiful Series Twitter Questions B/A: #39 Enabling Collaboration with Richard Bartlett Bodhidave Tweet Guided Christian Centering Prayer Rob Burbea Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Richard Bartlett about what led to his interest in group dynamics, quarantine in Italy, local vs digital collaboration, social enterprise, metamodernism & an action-oriented critique, rivalrous dynamics, the commons, experimentation vs abstraction, GameB, hierarchies, efficiency vs resilience, counter-cultural group dysfunctions, the economic purity delusion, mythopoetic cultural influence, the meta-tribe, memetic mediators & ambassadors, connecting elements of COVID-19, digital/complexity natives, creating digital communitas, and more. In this Episode of Both/And Enspiral | Loomio | The Hum | Microsolidarity.cc Elinor Ostrom's 8 Principles for Managing A Commmons On Leaving the Church of Social Justice Jim Rutt Queer Eye B/A: #37 Dancing with COVID with Sarah McManus Twitter Question Jack Murphy Memetic Mediators Slack B/A: #22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality with Jessica Rebel Wisdom: Predicting the Pandemic, Nora Bateson, Joe Brewer & Jim Rutt The Stoa Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Anna Gat about her background & the Interintellect (I.I.), the structure of I.I. salons & how they're adjusting to COVID-19, uncovering our true social needs in quarantine, local vs virtual community, unifying dynamics of global crisis, COVID paradoxes & artifacts, redefining extraordinary & genius, enabling constraints, adversity, governance, memetic mediation, our tribal histories, leadership, what Anna is working on now, and much more. In this Episode of Both/And The Interintellect Anna's article, Good Life Article on COVID Responsibility, You're Part of History Now Anna's article, As We May Adult B/A #6 Thriving in Modernity with Euvie Ivanova Richard Bartlett Peter Limberg Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Sarah McManus about her background, her emotional & psychological experience of contracting COVID-19, her ayahuasca shamanic apprenticeship in Peru, helplessness, emotional processing, the Bio-Emotive Framework, Buddhist practices & traditions, suffering, building & integrating new cultural platforms, reframing human development, pandemic fragility, learnings from Burning Man, dynamics of self-isolation, moving forward, chaos, order, and much more. In this Episode of Both/And Sarah's Roam Page Twitter Questions Human Age on Twitter Neural Annealing: Toward a Neural Theory of Everything Clean Up, Wake Up, Grow Up with Ken Wilber Doug Tataryn Already Free by Bruce Tift INVISIBILIA Podcast: The Reluctant Immortalist Star Trek The Next Generation S1E2 B/A: #35 Erotic Potential with Debby Friday Nora Bateson on the Emerge Podcast Game B The Context Institute - videos on cultural operating systems Spiral Dynamics Collaborative "nucleation sites" Cultures and cultural platforms The Circles Maps The Egg by Andy Weir The Stoa Anis Mojgani performs Shake the Dust Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes   Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.