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In this episode, Todd and Michael talk about reputation —inner and outer —branding, and the balance between art and design.
You can find Todd’s work on bergerfohr.com and Michael’s via Cina Associates (graphic design/branding studio) Cina Art (painting, etc), Pubic Type (retail and custom typefaces), and words here on Substack. Michael’s new project is https://tell-world.com
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