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It’s our season finale and in this episode we go through our hit parade of all 101 songs, with a brief reminder of our episodes, genres and favourites.Above all, though, it’s an opportunity to hear from you – our guests and listeners. Without you, this would have simply been two blokes chatting over a packet of crisps. But with your presence, support and contributions, it’s been lots of people chatting over a sharing bag of crisps.We will be back in December 2026 with Season 3 when we will be looking at 101 more songs from all of the decades around the 80s as well as the 80s themselves. We are sure that there will be some of your favourite artists there.In the meantime, please have a listen to all of our episodes from Seasons 1 and 2. Don’t forget we have 2 playlists with a total of 202 songs on them. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlAnd, above all, stay in touch via our socials:Blue Sky: @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook: Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit: r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail: [email protected] and closing music: (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John Lovering“Cold War” Oppenheimer Analysis, appears courtesy of Andy OppenheimerArtwork: Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer: Shivam PathakIntroduction: Ian Sanders of Cold War Conversations PodcastOpening words: Richie Wheeler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the last 6 songs of the season - numbers 95 to 101 of Season 2 of ‘101 more songs about nuclear war from the 1980s'. All of these songs are loosely based around the theme of nuclear science.We kick off the final countdown with one of the decade’s catchiest songs: ‘Einstein a Go-Go’ by Landscape. It’s been a recurring theme of the podcast that the jolliest tunes often hide the darkest lyrics and this track is the ultimate proof! .Next we look at a more obscure track : Soma Holiday’s ‘Shake Your Molecules’ is another great dance track combing Gallic synth cool with an exuberant American New Wave vocal . It’s rather wonderful.Third up is an absolute favourite of both Pank and Dave . We’d hoped to get a Propaganda song in earlier but nothing from the flawless ‘Secret Wish’ album was nuclear enough. Luckily Claudia Brucken’s next project - Act - produced ‘Absolutely Immune’ which fits the bill perfectly.Our next song started life as a poem but ‘Uh-Oh Plutonium ‘ by Anne Waldman works just as well as an 80s pop single complete with video . Anne is a prolific anti- nuclear activist as a well as a superb wordsmith.One of Dave’s favourites next - ‘Uranium Rock’ by the Cramps . The song covers the brief craze for family friendly uranium hunting in America in the 1950s and is typical of the Cramps’ rockabilly and B-movie horror aesthetic. Finally, what else could we end on but ‘The Future’s So Bright,I’ve Got to Wear Shades’ by Timbuk3? Another big hit and another deceptively jaunty tune that’s not nearly as optimistic as the title would suggest.Our playlists are complete! Download and enjoy all 101 songs.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlWe always love to chat with you via our socials:Blue Sky: @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook: Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit: r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail: [email protected] and closing music: (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John Lovering“Why Don’t You?” Fay Ray, written by John Lovering. With thanks to Tony Travis.Artwork: Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer: Shivam PathakOpening words: Richie Wheeler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Season 2 Episode 17 of our 80s Cold War podcast. In this episode we discuss tracks 91 to 95 of our second list of 101 songs.But first, we introduce a special guest – Aidan Woods of Lightbringers, an East London based musician whose first album “Weather the Storms” came out at the beginning of September. It is an album of differing moods with big synth sounds – full of introspection and views of the world. Aidan discusses the album, the recording process and his musical influences.Our five songs are a mixed bag this week.We start with Three Johns’ “Atom Drum Bop” (not from their album of the same name) – yet another memorable song about dancing to unthinkable destruction.We move on to Pop Will Eat Itself’s “Def Con One” – a reference to a state of military readiness that (happily) we have never reached. This should have been a much bigger hit (were it not for the blatant references to McDonald’s) and also pays tribute to Alan Moore’s Watchmen comics.The next song is “Seven Seconds to Midnight” by Wah! Heat. One of Pete Wylie’s many incarnations, this is a brilliant song from a fecund period of Liverpudlian musical output.We move on to “Friendly Fires” by Section 25 – a dark and bleak picture of the price paid by children in the face of heavy military bombing – nuclear or otherwise.Our final song is “Ask” by The Smiths. This got to 14 in the charts with Morrisey and Marr on fine form as they deal with the issue of spontaneity in love. The question at the end of the song provides the link to nuclear war and the title of this episode.Our playlists are updated – enjoy all 91 songs we have covered so far in this Season as an accompaniment to the podcasthttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlStay in touch via our socials:Blue Sky:                       @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                            [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John LoveringArtwork:                         Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie Wheeler“Heartsoar”, “Hindsight” and “Times Like These” by Lightbringers appear courtesy of Aidan Woods. Give him a follow on @lightbringersofficial Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Episode 16 of Season 2. We have a very special guest, Fraser McCallum, author of the excellent “Cold War Britain – Fifty Years in the Shadow of the Bomb”. The book does not just deal with the important historical aspect of the post WW2 period, but also places Britain’s cultural landscape firmly in the foreground – its music, films and television. Huge thanks to Fraser for joining us.As always, there’s music to discuss. All 5 are British songs, and fit in well with Fraser’s interview. We start with Red Box’s “Billy’s Line” (the playlist says “Lane” – that’s wrong!), a typically anthemic but sad story of a young man from Scotland during the Cold War.The next song is the fantastic Tomahawk Cruise by TV Smith, formerly of The Adverts. We think it’s the only song which speaks from the viewpoint of the British missile itself.Everything But the Girl’s beautiful “The Night I Heard Caruso Sing” is our next song. A piano-based lament, which deals with the horror of discovering nuclear devices during the peace of a family holiday in Scotland.Bowie’s favourite band (of the time) was Screaming Blue Messiahs, whose allegorical guitar-driven “Bikini Red” deals with nuclear testing on that Pacific atoll.We finish with Thomas Dolby’s “One of Our Submarines”. The big synth sound, along with his own family references, make this an irresistible addition to our list.We also pay our respects to Dolly Parton, Frank Beard, Tim Curry, William Orbit and Barry Mitchell.We are up to 90 songs in our latest playlist, which is updated here….https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlHere are our links for you to stay in touch:Blue Sky:                       @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                            [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John Lovering“Why Don’t You?”       Fay Ray, written by John Lovering. With thanks to Tony Travis.Artwork:                         Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie WheelerWith thanks to Fraser McCallum. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Episode 15 of Season 2 and we continue to shine the spotlight on Legends – lesser known tracks by the biggest artists.To start with, though, we are delighted that our dear friend Tony Travis of Fay Ray has kindly given us permission to air a remastering of “Why Don’t You?” This is a recording from the 101 Club, and is an absolute treat. Sheila McCartney sounds fantastic. Tony is working on the band’s back catalogue and, hopefully, some more treasures from the vaults will follow….We start our five songs with “Ban the Bomb” – by Ian Dury and the Music Students – not the Blockheads. Ian Dury was the face of CND in 1982/82 so it is inevitable that he has a song in our catalogue. His vocals are, as ever, on top form, but there’s a clear difference between this and The Blockheads style of playing.Joe Jackson’s “Evil Empire” from 1989 is next. It’s a fine track, with wonderful acoustic guitar playing.We then move on to Manufacture’s synth based “As the End Draws Near”. This was a huge launchpad for Canadian vocalist Sarah Maclachlan. Check out the video, too – it’s full of Cold War images.“Armageddon Days Are Here (Again)” by The The is next. A caustic attack on leadership and religion – with some rockabilly and orchestra, all driven by Matt Johnson’s ever-powerful vocal.We end this episode with “Peace in Our Time” by Elvis Costello (albeit released as The Imposter). He wasn’t particularly fond of this album, but this is a fine track – taking in Neville Chamberlain’s role in the run up to WWII and Ronald Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative (aka Star Wars).Our playlists are updated – enjoy all 85 songs we have covered so far in this Season as an accompaniment to the podcasthttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlStay in touch via our socials:Blue Sky:                      @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                            [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John Lovering“Why Don’t You?”       Fay Ray, written by John Lovering. With thanks to Tony Travis.Artwork:                     Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie Wheeler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Episode 14 of Season 2. Legends are the focus. We discuss some lesser known songs by the biggest artists.   We start with Bruce Springsteen’s “Roulette”. Recorded almost immediately after the Three Mile Island disaster in Harrisburg, PA, but not released until 1988 as a B-side to One Step Up, Springsteen’s anger and mistrust of authority are on electrifying form.We then move on to The Police’s “Walking in Your Footsteps”, a calypso-infused tune all about man’s own ability to destroy the planet where dinosaurs once freely roamed.We next pay tribute to Calvin Hayes of Johnny Hates Jazz. Calvin passed away in July… The song we discuss is “Don’t Let it End this Way”, and is a cool, sophisticated song, quintessentially 80s – a sad goodbye.The mood changes as we delve into classic hip hop.  “Beat Street Breakdown” by rap pioneers Grandmaster Flash and Melle Mel is a full on tirade against the injustices of the world, and nuclear armament features heavily. The version on our playlist is, unfortunately, the shortened one but it still packs a heavy punch.We end with one of the greatest anti-nuclear songs of all time. “London Calling” by The Clash is one of the most important protest songs of all time and remains a huge anthem both in the capital and beyond. Released in December 1979, it charted in January 1980, so we have no hesitation in including it here.  Perhaps overdue, you might think.Please have a listen to our playlists – we are up to 80 songs! And once this season is done, we have plenty more for you.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlDon’t forget our socials:Blue Sky:                       @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                             [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John LoveringArtwork:                          Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie Wheeler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Season 13 of Episode 2 is devoted to Cold War espionage, and we welcome a very special guest. Ian Sanders  is the creator, host, and inspiration behind the magnificent “Cold War Conversations” podcast. Ian chats to us about his work, some important characters from the world of espionage and, importantly, his favourite 80s nuclear tunes.You can find the Cold War Conversations podcast on all the usual platforms. There is so much to delve into.Andy Oppenheimer, who we were lucky to interview earlier in the year, tells us about his new album “Embrace the Dark” and we have a little excerpt of “No Warning”, one of the amazing new tracks – and it’s just right for our nuclear family.There are, as ever, 5 tracks to discuss. And spying remains the theme. “Michael Caine” by Madness is the first. Hugely popular, and all about the safety of informants at the time of the Troubles. We then have the wonderful “Attention Stockholm” by Virna Lindt. This is almost a piece of 60s film noir on vinyl.  “Philby” by Rory Gallagher shows the guitar virtuoso at his finest, even with some electric sitar. “Spies in the Wires” by Cabaret Voltaire deals with 80s Cold War paranoia. It’s one of our favourites.  We finish with Roni Griffith’s fabulous up-tempo Euro disco tune, “Spys”.The updated playlists can be found here:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlDon’t forget our socials:Blue Sky:                      @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                            [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John LoveringArtwork:                         Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie Wheeler“No Warning” appears courtesy of Andy OppenheimerWith sincere thanks to Ian Sanders of Cold War Conversations. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Season 2 Episode 12. We have discussed so many different genres of music over all our episodes, and now we enter the world of folk and country music from both sides of the Atlantic, and we have so much to discuss, that this time there are 11 songs on the list.Country superstar John Denver opens proceedings with the wonderful “Let Us Begin (What are We Making Weapons For?)”. Patriotic and anti-nuclear, it questions the need to spend so much money on arms, while the poor are suffering.Dean Reed (known as Red Elvis) was an American who spent many years in South America and East Germany, and sold loads of records in Russia. His song “Wake Up, America” is a call to his motherland to do better.Worcestershire singer-songwriter Clifford T. Ward’s magnificent “20 minutes” is next.  A gentle piece of folk rock, with a hauntingly bleak instrumental section.Our next song “Four Minute Warning” is by Peggy Seeger and her husband Ewan MacColl. A song without any instrumentation which gives a real-time account of how a nuclear blast in central London would radiate through the city and Home Counties. The list of cities and the sound of children’s voices against Peggy’s plaintive vocal makes this one of our most poignant songs.Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper combined to provide some memorable Bluegrass tunes and “Gonna put my Face on a Nuclear Bomb” is a up-tempo, jaunty example.We then discuss the wonderfully optimistic “The Day After” by The Men They Couldn’t Hang. The singer doesn’t care about nuclear war, because he’s in love….Whitstable’s Oysterband are next, with a wonderfully satirical and melodic song “Ashes to Ashes”, full of interesting characters.There then follow two songs called “Protect and Survive”; the first by Scottish favourites Runrig, the second by perennial heroes, Jethro Tull – both very different, but the sentiments are the same.Christy Moore is one of Ireland’s great folk singers, and his song “Farewell to Pripyat” tells the true story of the evacuation of a town close to Chernobyl, as it was evacuated two days after the blast of 1986.Donovan is one of the best known of Britain’s folk singers, and his jaunty ditty “Neutron” (from which we take our title) is all about the survival of buildings against the destruction of people in a nuclear blast.Our regular playlist now has 70 songs – find something new to enjoy.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlDon’t forget our socials:Blue Sky:                       @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                            [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John LoveringArtwork:                         Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie WheelerVoices of children from Peggy Seeger’s “The Plutonium Factor”. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Season 2 Episode 11. After the extremely focussed and niche topics of the last 2 episodes, we go mainstream again with some of the biggest British artists of that era and beyond….  We start the episode with some feedback from American listener, Walt, who feeds back to us his love of the US punk scene. We then review the wonderful Kraftwerk concert that we both attended a couple of weeks ago. All of this, after a pointless discussion on the meaning of “wheel house”.Our first song of this episode is the wonderful “Star” by Erasure. As with all things by Messrs Bell and Clarke, this is an upbeat, extremely catchy tune, but with a dark and less than rosy outlook (hence this episode’s title).We then move on to “Burning Bridges” by Japan – it was a late and haunting addition to their “Gentlemen Take Polaroids” album and a B-side to “Cantonese Boy”Another B-side follows: “The Sound of the Atom Splitting” by the Pet Shop Boys is not generally regarded as a fans’ favourite – we love the experimental rhythm and ironic conversational tone of the song.China Crisis’ “Papua” is next – a song that drew the attention of Walter Becker of Steely Dan. It’s not surprising to see why, with its lush production and entrancing lyrics.One of the Style Council’s biggest hits “My Ever Changing Moods” did not immediately strike us as an 80s nuclear war song, but it certainly is. Amidst its light funk music, is a dark story of impending doom, which is highlighted in the music video.A less well known track concludes this fortnight’s selection: “The Lonely Spy” by Lori and the Chameleons is one of only two singles the band released. We love it. The band went on to other, better-known projects, but Lori didn’t, which is a shame. If you didn’t know this before, then find it on our updated playlist:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aHCNYfoQ2gtko5z6pwS9O?si=81bce0c59ff2470dhttps://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/bang-101-more-songs-about-nuclear-war-from-the-1980s/pl.u-vxy6L76uzVzd8ZlKeep in touch! Blue Sky:                       @bangpodcast.bsky.socialFacebook:                     Bang Nuclear PodcastReddit:                           r/bangnuclearpodcastEmail:                            [email protected] and closing music:              (Waiting for the) Heatwave – Fay Ray, appears courtesy of Fay Ray. Written by John LoveringArtwork:                         Rachel MalbonAssistant Producer:   Shivam PathakOpening words:           Richie Wheeler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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