ABCs of NMOSD 404. All Things Relapses

In this "ABCs of MOGAD" episode, "Steroid Dependence," Krissy Dilger of SRNA was joined by Dr. Eoin Flanagan from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. They began with a summary of how steroids are used to manage MOG antibody disease, particularly during acute attacks [00:01:25]. Dr. Flanagan described the mechanics of steroids in reducing brain inflammation and the importance of early treatment [00:04:14]. They discussed the concept of steroid dependence and the complications that arise when tapering down the steroid dose [00:05:46]. Dr. Flanagan highlighted alternative treatments to manage steroid dependence and emphasized the importance of working closely with healthcare providers to safely reduce steroid use over time [00:09:42].Eoin Flanagan, MB, BCh is a Professor of Neurology and Consultant in the departments of Neurology and Laboratory Medicine and Pathology at the Mayo Clinic (Rochester, MN). He completed his medical school training at University College Dublin in Ireland in 2005. He did a medical residency in Ireland and then completed neurology residency, fellowships in neuroimmunology and a master's in clinical and translational science at Mayo Clinic (Rochester, MN). He works in the Autoimmune Neurology and Multiple Sclerosis Clinics and the Neuroimmunology Laboratory at the Mayo Clinic.His clinical expertise and research are focused on inflammatory myelopathies and their imaging patterns, myelin oligodendrocyte glycoprotein (MOG) antibody associated disorder, neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorders, autoimmune encephalitis, paraneoplastic neurologic disorders, and multiple sclerosis. He is principal investigator on an NIH RO1 grant studying MOG antibody associated disorder.00:00 Introduction01:25 Understanding Steroids in MOG Antibody Disease04:14 Steroid Dosage and Administration05:46 Steroid Dependence in MOGAD Patients09:42 Managing Steroid Dependence14:02 Balancing Inflammation Control and Steroid Risks17:31 Conclusion

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! Beginning January 5, 2026, SRNA is bringing all five of our podcast series together into a single, unified podcast channel called “SRNA Soundwaves.” This means that all episodes of "Ask the Expert, ABCs of MOGAD, ABCs of NMOSD, ADEM Academy, and Community Meets Clinic" - past and present - will now be found in one feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other podcast streaming platforms.What this means for you: If you are already subscribed to our "Ask the Expert" series, you will automatically be subscribed to "SRNA Soundwaves" once the merge happens on January 5th. If you are subscribed to "ABCs of MOGAD, ABCs of NMOSD, ADEM Academy, or Community Meets Clinic," make sure to subscribe to "Ask the Expert," which will be renamed “SRNA Soundwaves” on January 5th, to continue to get new episodes in your feed. You can subscribe here: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/srna-ask-the-expert/We hope this change helps our community navigate our educational content more easily and enjoy a smoother, more organized podcast experience. If you have questions about the upcoming change, please email: [email protected]

The "Community Meets Clinic" podcast series introduces clinicians and healthcare personnel specializing in rare neuroimmune disorders. In this episode, Krissy Dilger of SRNA interviewed Dr. Alexandra Kornbluh from Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C. about her role and journey into neurology and neuroimmunology. Dr. Kornbluh discussed her interest in the fast-paced nature of neuroimmunology and her involvement in clinical research, particularly in MOG antibody disease (MOGAD) [00:01:32]. She elaborated on the multidisciplinary approach at Children's National Hospital that supports comprehensive care and ongoing research for pediatric neuroimmune disorders [00:04:58]. Dr. Kornbluh emphasized her commitment to holistic care and the future advancements in treatment and diagnostics for rare neuroimmune conditions [00:05:44].Alexandra Kornbluh, MD is Associate Program Director for the Child Neurology residency and Co-Program Director of the Pediatric Neuroimmunology Fellowship at Children’s National Hospital in Washington, D.C. She completed her medical training at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and her pediatric and child neurology residency training through Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus, Ohio. She then pursued additional subspecialty fellowship training in pediatric multiple sclerosis and related demyelinating diseases. Through this fellowship, she gained expertise in caring for both children and adults across the age-span of neuroinflammatory diseases at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and the University of Pennsylvania.Dr. Kornbluh sees patients from the greater Washington, D.C., area as well as second opinion consultations for pediatric demyelinating disease and related disorders within the multidisciplinary neuroimmunology program. She also evaluates patients with headaches and provides general neurology care for patients.Dr. Kornbluh serves as the Director of Investigational Therapeutics through the pediatric neuroimmunology program and is the principal investigator for clinical research studies in pediatric demyelinating conditions. Her research interests include pediatric multiple sclerosis (MS), myelin oligodendrocyte glycoprotein antibody-associated disorders (MOGAD), and other related demyelinating conditions. You can view her medical profile here:https://appointments.childrensnational.org/provider/alexandra-behar-kornbluh/235982601:32 Dr. Kornbluh's Journey into Neuroimmunology03:29 Focus on Rare Neuroimmune Disorders04:58 Children's National Neuroimmunology Clinic05:44 Multidisciplinary Care Approach07:31 Personal Insights and Self-Care08:25 Message to Families and Final Thoughts09:48 Hope for the Future

SRNA's Krissy Dilger was joined by Dr. Hamza Coban to discuss neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorder (NMOSD) relapses. They discussed distinguishing between true relapses, pseudo relapses, and Uhthoff's phenomenon. Dr. Coban discussed the importance of early diagnosis and prompt treatment to prevent severe and debilitating symptoms. He described various treatments to prevent relapses. He also talked about the timing of relapses and when to consider switching therapies.

In this episode of "ABCs of NMOSD," host Landy Thomas, joined by Doug Newby, Heather Dawn Newbie, and Caitlyn Flickinger, discussed the impact of NMOSD on romantic relationships. The guests shared their personal experiences with relationships and how they manage living with NMOSD [00:02:27]. They also addressed how they met, support each other during treatment, and the importance of understanding and patience in relationships [00:09:37]. Finally, they provided advice on dating with a chronic illness and the significance of self-love and finding a supportive partner [00:35:06].Johnney (Doug) Newby lived most of his life in Colorado, only moving recently to Pennsylvania in the last year. Doug has a background in criminal justice and worked as a security guard the last few years in Colorado. Doug became symptomatic more than ten years ago with neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorder (NMOSD) spending many weeks in and out of hospitals with transverse myelitis (TM) and optic neuritis (ON). Doug is newly married to Heather ,who is also an NMO patient, and they’re making a life together in Pennsylvania along with their dog, Bailey and their cats.Heather Dawn Newby has lived most of her life in Pennsylvania. After earning her bachelor's degree in Environmental Science and her master's degree in Environmental Studies, she returned home to her family’s dairy farm where she utilized her degree focusing on sustainable agriculture. Heather also spent two summer seasons working in Alaska with the Fish and Wildlife Department focusing on sustainable fisheries. Heather first became symptomatic for neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorder (NMOSD) around 2004 and has since lost a good deal of her vision, but she is doing well otherwise. Heather is newly married to Doug, a fellow NMOSD patient, and they are creating a life together in Pennsylvania along with their dog, Bailey and their cats.Caitlyn Flickinger is a care partner to Landy Thomas, her fiancée, who has NMOSD. Starting college at only 14 years of age, Caitlyn is pursuing her bachelor's degree in political science, with minors in sociology and business. A prolific writer, Caitlyn spends most of her free time writing sci-fi books and letters to her soon-to-be wife, dreaming of one day breaking into the industry and getting her work published and in the hands of readers. Caitlyn also serves as president of the UCF student club she and Landy helped establish, called Epoch: A Minecraft SMP.00:00 Introduction and Guest Bios02:27 Meet Doug and Heather Newbie06:22 Meet Landy Thomas and Caitlyn Flickinger09:37 Doug and Heather's Love Story14:46 Landy and Caitlyn's Love Story20:00 Living with NMOSD25:50 Navigating Relationships with NMOSD26:38 Commitment and Understanding29:47 Challenges and Support35:06 Dating Inside and Outside of the Community47:00 Advice for NMOSD Patients on Dating55:17 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

In part six of the “Ask the Expert, Research Edition” mini-series, “Parenting is Hard,” Krissy Dilger of SRNA was joined by Barbara Babcock, a family therapist from the UK's National Health Service, to discuss the role of siblings in families with a child diagnosed with a rare neuroimmune disorder. Barbara shared findings from her research on how siblings provide crucial support to parents and the positive impacts this has on family dynamics [00:04:31]. They explored the concept of parentification and the importance of assigning age-appropriate tasks to siblings [00:25:10]. Barbara also provided advice on fostering healthy sibling relationships and the significance of open communication [00:35:34]. At the end of this mini-series, we will host a Q&A episode where Barbara will answer questions from the community. To submit your question, please visit https://srna.ngo/submitBarbara Babcock works as a Family Therapist in a child and adolescent mental health outpatient unit in the United Kingdom's National Health Service. In her private practice, she works with individuals and couples who are navigating challenging health issues and wish to get their lives back. She obtained her Master of Science in Family Therapy from the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology, and Neuroscience at King's College London. Barbara also has a Master of Arts in Coaching Psychology/Psychological Coaching and her dissertation research focused on the impact that a systemic approach to coaching has on the wellbeing of adults who have a rare neuroimmune disorder and their primary caregivers. Previously, she was Chair of the Transverse Myelitis Society, from 2013 to 2016, and led their Family Weekend from 2015 to 2019, an event to support families who have a child/adolescent with a rare neuroimmune disorder to discover their potential through challenging outdoor activities. She had transverse myelitis in 2008 and is originally from Pennsylvania, USA. You can contact her at [email protected] and her website is www.returntowellness.co.uk00:00 Introduction00:28 Meet Barbara Babcock02:08 Theme Four: Support from Siblings04:31 Siblings' Characteristics and Their Impact06:57 Voluntary Help from Siblings25:10 Parentification: Understanding the Concept36:34 Fostering Healthy Sibling Relationships39:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The "Community Meets Clinic" podcast series introduces clinicians and healthcare personnel specializing in rare neuroimmune disorders. In this episode, Krissy Dilger moderated a discussion with Dr. Shuvro Roy of the University of Washington and Dr. Catherine Otten of Seattle Children's Hospital. Dr. Otten elaborated on her work with child neurology and pediatric neuroinflammatory disorders, while Dr. Roy discussed his research interests and the complexities of neuroimmunology [00:06:03]. They shared insights into their multidisciplinary clinic teams and how new patients can expect to be integrated into their care systems [00:11:01]. Both doctors highlighted the promising future of treatments for rare neuroimmunologic disorders and shared how they personally manage the emotional toll of their work [00:17:41]. You can view their medical profiles here:https://www.uwmedicine.org/bios/shuvro-royhttps://www.seattlechildrens.org/directory/catherine-ellyn-otten/Shuvro Roy, MD is an Assistant Professor of Neurology at the University of Washington, specializing in neuroimmunology, with a specific focus on multiple sclerosis (MS) and related neuroimmunologic disorders. He is Co-Director of the UW SRNA Center of Excellence for Rare Neuroimmune disorders. He is also a core teaching faculty member for the UW Medicine Multiple Sclerosis Center’s fellowship program, contributing to clinical education and research initiatives like the ECHO MS program in collaboration with the National MS Society. Dr. Roy is actively engaged in projects aimed at improving access to care, addressing healthcare disparities, and enhancing patient safety for individuals living with MS and related conditions. He has co-authored recent research articles in medical journals on a variety of topics, including studies on stiff person syndrome, encephalomyelitis, MOG-antibody disorder, and multiple sclerosis treatment protocols. Dr. Roy is dedicated to helping his patients thrive amid challenging, lifelong neurological conditions.Catherine E. Otten, MD is a Clinical Associate Professor of Neurology at the University of Washington in the Neurology Department, specializing in child neurology and pediatric neuroinflammatory disorders. Dr. Otten is the Neuroimmunology Medical Director at Seattle Children's Hospital where she runs subspecialty programs for patients with rare neuroimmune conditions. She is board-certified in Pediatrics and Neurology. She leads the Pediatric Neuroimmunology clinic serving patients with multiple sclerosis, MOGAD, NMOSD, transverse myelitis, optic neuritis, acute flaccid myelitis, and other neuroimmune conditions. Dr. Otten co-leads the Inflammatory Brain Disorders Clinic, a multidisciplinary hub serving patients with autoimmune encephalitis, autoinflammatory disease, and other forms of brain inflammation. Her work extends across Alaska, where she has provided care in outreach clinics in rural Alaskan communities for the past decade. Her academic work includes collaboration with CDC as a consultant on acute flaccid myelitis, as well as published work on autoimmune encephalitis, demyelinating disease, and other neuroimmune conditions. She is committed to the care of pediatric patients with neuroinflammatory diseases and their families across the Pacific Northwest.00:00 Introduction02:01 Journey into Neurology and Neuroimmunology06:03 Research and Clinical Interests11:01 Multidisciplinary Clinic Teams17:41 Self-Care and Wellness25:04 Future of Rare Neuro Immune Disorders27:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode of the SRNA "Ask the Expert" podcast moderated by Dr. GG deFiebre, Dr. Kyle Blackburn and Dr. Benjamin Greenberg discussed the need for updated diagnostic criteria for myelitis. Dr. Blackburn explained the term myelitis and the importance of precise terminologies for accurate diagnoses and research [00:05:10]. Dr. Greenberg elaborated on the advancements in testing and understanding of associated disorders like NMOSD and MOGAD since 2002 [00:11:10]. Both experts stated that the shift from "transverse myelitis" to "myelitis" will aid future research, treatments, and patient care [00:17:27]. They reassured patients that these changes would essentially refine their care but not alter it dramatically [00:23:40]. They encouraged patients to stay informed and communicate with their healthcare providers about these updates [00:28:58].Kyle Blackburn, MD is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Neurology at UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, Texas. He specializes in neuroimmunology and has clinical interests in antibody-mediated neurologic disorders, including autoimmune encephalitis, epilepsy, and ataxias; neurologic complications of cancers, including paraneoplastic disorders and checkpoint inhibitor/CAR T-cell toxicity; and demyelinating disorders, including sarcoidosis, neuromyelitis optica, myelin oligodendrocyte glycoprotein (MOG)-associated disease, and multiple sclerosis. Dr. Blackburn earned his medical degree at the University of Kentucky College of Medicine. He performed his residency in adult neurology at UT Southwestern, serving his final year as Chief Resident, and stayed to complete a fellowship in neuroimmunology, during which he earned the James T. Lubin Clinician Scientist Award from the Siegel Rare Neuroimmune Association (SRNA). He joined the UT Southwestern faculty in 2020.Benjamin M. Greenberg, M.D., M.H.S. is a Professor and the Cain Denius Scholar in Mobility Disorders in the Department of Neurology at UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, Texas. He currently serves as the Vice Chair of Translational Research and Strategic Initiatives for the Department of Neurology. He is also the interim Director of the Multiple Sclerosis Center and the Director of the Neurosciences Clinical Research Center. In addition, he serves as Director of the Transverse Myelitis and Neuromyelitis Optica Program and the Pediatric Demyelinating Disease Program at Children’s Medical Center.Dr. Greenberg earned his medical degree at Baylor College of Medicine before completing an internal medicine internship at Chicago’s Rush Presbyterian-St. Luke’s Medical Center. He performed his neurology residency at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. He also holds an M.H.S. in molecular microbiology and immunology from the Bloomberg School of Public Health, as well as a bachelor’s degree in the history of medicine – both from Johns Hopkins. Prior to his recruitment to UT Southwestern in 2009, Dr. Greenberg was on the faculty of the Johns Hopkins Division of Neuroimmunology, serving as the Director of the Encephalitis Center and Co-Director of the nation’s first dedicated Transverse Myelitis Center.Dr. Greenberg splits his clinical time between adult and pediatric patients at William P. Clements Jr. and Zale Lipshy University Hospitals, Parkland, and Children’s Medical Center. His research focuses on better diagnosing, prognosticating, and treating demyelinating diseases and nervous system infections. He also coordinates clinical trials to evaluate new treatments to prevent neurologic damage and restore function to affected patients. 00:00 Introduction00:58 Overview of Myelitis and Diagnostic Criteria02:57 Historical Context and Importance of Updated Criteria05:10 Challenges with Current Terminology11:10 Changes in Understanding and Diagnostic Approaches17:27 Implications for Patients and Clinical Practice23:40 Impact on Research and Future Directions28:58 Patient Advocacy31:17 Conclusion

Krissy Dilger of the Siegel Rare Neuroimmune Association (SRNA) was joined by experts Janet Dean, MS, RN, CRRN, CRNP and Florence Hanssen, RN to discuss skin health and the prevention of skin breakdown. The conversation covered the structure of the skin and how paralysis affects skin health [00:01:48]. Key topics included the role of daily skin checks, moisture management, and the importance of pressure relief [00:11:48]. They also reviewed how nutrition, rehabilitation, and technology can aid in the prevention and treatment of skin breakdown [00:17:51]. Lastly, the episode covered the signs of serious skin issues and when to seek medical attention [00:50:18].Janet Dean, MS, RN, CRRN, CRNP attended nursing school at the University of Michigan, completing a master’s degree in parent-child nursing in 1979. She is a board-certified Pediatric Nurse Practitioner and is also a Certified Rehabilitation Registered Nurse. She has over 30 years of experience in the specialty of pediatric rehabilitation. Prior to becoming a nurse practitioner, Ms. Dean enjoyed 10 years as a staff nurse on a pediatric rehabilitation unit caring for children with physical and developmental disability. As a nurse practitioner for the International Center for Spinal Cord Injury, she specialized in the prevention and treatment of the common health consequences of pediatric spinal cord injury. The focus of her practice is on health promotion and health maintenance.Florence Hanssen, RN is a nurse coordinator at the Kennedy Krieger Institute’s International Center for Spinal Cord Injury. She obtained her licensure in 1993, and her bachelor’s in nursing science from Ohio University in 2014. Her primary interests are in wound care and the continuous outpatient healthcare for those living with spinal cord injury/ disease. She earned her wound care nurse certification in 2023. 00:00:00 Introduction00:00:17 Meet the Experts00:01:48 Understanding Skin Structure and Function00:03:59 What is Skin Breakdown?00:05:49 Impact of Paralysis on Skin Health00:08:15 Causes of Skin Breakdown00:11:48 Preventing Skin Breakdown00:14:00 Mechanical Injuries and Skin Health00:16:21 Hygiene Practices for Skin Health00:17:51 Nutrition and Skin Health00:20:17 Rehabilitation and Skin Health00:23:15 Preventing Pressure Ulcers00:28:58 Managing Muscle Spasms00:31:28 Identifying and Treating Minor Skin Breakdown00:34:14 Understanding and Treating Minor Skin Irritations00:36:24 Identifying Pressure Points and Vulnerable Areas00:40:17 Managing Scrapes and Tears During Transfers00:43:21 Preventing Skin Breakdown Under Braces00:47:20 Addressing Skin Breakdown in Perineal Areas00:50:18 Recognizing and Treating Serious Skin Breakdown01:03:46 The Role of Technology and Resources in Skin Care01:06:32 Final Thoughts and Advice

At the end of this mini-series, we will host a Q&A episode where Barbara will answer questions from the community. To submit your question, please visit https://srna.ngo/submitIn part five of the “Ask the Expert, Research Edition” mini-series, “Parenting is Hard,” Krissy Dilger of SRNA was joined by Barbara Babcock to further explore her research concerning the changing beliefs around parenting when a child has been diagnosed with a rare neuroimmune disorder. They explored the theme of finding a balance in attending to the needs of all children in the family and discussed the importance of fairness and communication between parents [00:02:18]. The conversation also touched on the cultural differences and how these influence family dynamics and parenting strategies when one child requires more attention [00:13:33]. Barbara shared various strategies families use to ensure each child feels valued, such as integrating quality time into existing routines and understanding the different needs of children at various developmental stages [00:18:30]. Barbara Babcock works as a Family Therapist in a child and adolescent mental health outpatient unit in the United Kingdom's National Health Service. In her private practice, she works with individuals and couples who are navigating challenging health issues and wish to get their lives back. She obtained her Master of Science in Family Therapy from the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology, and Neuroscience at King's College London. Barbara also has a Master of Arts in Coaching Psychology/Psychological Coaching and her dissertation research focused on the impact that a systemic approach to coaching has on the wellbeing of adults who have a rare neuroimmune disorder and their primary caregivers. Previously, she was Chair of the Transverse Myelitis Society, from 2013 to 2016, and led their Family Weekend from 2015 to 2019, an event to support families who have a child/adolescent with a rare neuroimmune disorder to discover their potential through challenging outdoor activities. She had transverse myelitis in 2008 and is originally from Pennsylvania, USA. You can contact her at [email protected] and her website is www.returntowellness.co.uk00:00 Introduction 00:28 Meet the Expert: Barbara Babcock02:18 Theme Three: Balancing Sibling Needs03:59 Parental Communication and Mutual Support13:33 Cultural and Family Contexts18:30 Building Quality Time with Siblings26:13 Parental Guilt and Compensation35:09 Conclusion