If you tell them that they WILL need therapy!!!

It's the topic that literally rules Katie's life - sleep! The ripple effect of us not getting enough, them not getting enough and the dramas that lack of sleep bring!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We don't waste food, we put it in a container, it goes back in the fridge, we leave it 2 weeks and then throw it away!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rach has realised she's allowing things that she never used to allow and is now worried she's creating bad habits!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Katie feels that what the kids are learning at school is very old fashioned, they then compare it to what they learned at school!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rachel opens up about something her and her family are going through and how she's navigating honesty with her kids. She was particularly challenged after a moment where she broke down in front of them.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Katie decides one day to go around the house like some sort of detective and point out the absolute epitome of laziness! And no one was able to get away with it - husbands also beware!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rach felt like a kid again when she turned up to something new and felt like she didn't fit in. Although she definitely did give off 'don't talk to me, I'm not a social Mum today' vibes!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Katie talks about the fine line between being honest with her kids and not wanting to pass on her anxieties. Should we be real or let them just be care free kids?!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rach stoops to new lows when she resorts to taking her 9 year old to a not so PG appointment!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Katie finds herself in a situation where if she reveals the truth they may never recover!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.