Q&A: NY & LA Pizza & Burgers, Do We Need Chilis, Hater Influencers, and Noma Shame with Jackie Gebel aka @NoLeftovers

Jordan and Max sit down with Luger's VP and great grandson of current ownership Daniel Turtel to talk the perfect order, a possible new burger concept, the secret salad, an appetizer meat the boys have never experienced, tips for cooking Luger steaks at home, all the schlag, and Jordan begs for a new location on behalf of Los Angeles.

Jordan and Max have returned from New York, where chicken was all the rage, so the boys talk two meals where poultry was the star. At Torien, an upscale yakitori experience was had, where Max failed at making champagne connections, and Jordan had little heart, but the tail and knee made it all work. Then, Max finally visited Torrisi, where the Major Food Group elements all took center stage, the sandwich was an issue, and the bird happily flew right down the throat.

Octavio Olivas is a one-man showman of the Silverlakemariscos counter that is so far under the radar it’s officially too under the radar, so Jordan and Max have the fish slicing king in to talk his menu, wild daily schedule, and how to balance it all as a father and husband. Plus, date night recommendations from the most romantic fellas in food, a Jordo knife sharpening rant, beer condiments, and everyone’s favorite freak of the oceangame show.

The stomped grape maestro himself, Max “Bubbles” Shapiro,tastes and reviews his three favorite Jumbo Time Wines, offering tasting notes, pairing advice, and thoughts on Jordan’s glassware.

Jordan and Max are joined by Jackie Gebel (@noleftovers on social media) to answer questions on mayo confusion, a shocker top 5 Noma bite, all the best bites at SushiK, Mei Lin departure intel, influencers needing to learn how to eat, Jordan's drinking past, menu font sizing, Max's writing, Triple Dipper desires, ticketed food fests, Josh Skenes' pizza & cocktails spot, at home plating tips, an actual delicious beer, NYC pizza plans, and a live celebrity caviar brand tasting.⁠⁠⁠Visit Jumbo Time Wines, and use promo code: MADJUMBO for 20% off all orders

LA's hottest bar was visited by Jordan, who downed cocktails in an unprecedented move. Then, the Jewish Mad Food boys talk participating in Easter for the first time, and all the tasty delights that came with their resurrection celebrations. Plus, a Cadbury egg rundown, Max went to church, and ham needs to become a bigger thing. ⁠Visit Jumbo Time Wines, and use promo code: MADJUMBO for 20% off all orders

Was it disgusting, challenging or worth the $1,500 price tag? Was a bag of $3 chips really served? Max talks his entire night at Noma LA including the corkage issue, protestors at the entrance, a taxidermy and car dealership greeting, the hilarious dish, the dish he loved, the dish he refused to finish, the unthinkable service blunder and amateur hour all over the 1923 Silverlake mansion, a final Noma LA rating using the very exact and respected Hector Scale, and what was René Redzepi doing during it all (besides unfollowing Max on Instagram)?Visit Jumbo Time Wines, and use promo code: MADJUMBO for 20% off all orders

Jordan and Max explore all the chewing fun available at ballparks, while debating popcorn vs. peanuts, fries vs. nachos, the best dessert combo, new items at Dodger Stadium, all the crazy fusion menu delights and which ones they wanna take for a spin, and if the 9-9-9 challenge is in Max's future, because he hasn't been to game in decades and can't even sing baseball's most popular song.

This week a Food & Wine contributing editor asked the question: What if we just got rid of fine dining? To which Jordan and Max answered, "uh, no thank you." Max breaks down the biggest fine dining misconceptions while Jordan offers popping off advice to all online creators. But first, Spring is flirting with us, and Shapiro details the best market finds.

Jordan and Max answer audience questions on their upcoming New York eating schedule that's giving Max anxiety, Jordo's Chicago and New York pizza thoughts and how LA compares, Peckerman's return, European eating styles, home cooking advice, dining at Bruce, The Grove ain't exactly Napa Valley, community tables, Max's old wardrobe, and to dine or to not dine at Noma.