[14] Knight Fall: Perspectives on the End of an Era

On this episode of Xs and Joes, the crew explores how college basketball programs try to use pace of play to their advantage, bringing in Coach Tonsoni and Coach Adragna to provide tactical insights.The discussion examines how tempo and pace interact with personnel, recruiting, and program philosophy in modern college basketball. Our panel explores how some traditionally slower-paced programs like Wisconsin are adapting to modern play styles, while others like Virginia maintain their methodical approach.They also analyze how factors like the transfer portal and player development are forcing programs to evolve their systems and pace of play.Segment 1Everyone says they want to play "fast" (except members of the Bennett family) so why don't they?Why do coaches want to push or pull back tempo? What are the advantages and disadvantages in playing at certain paces?What do teams do to control the pace of play? What can a team do on both ends of the floor to pressure an opponent?How total number of possessions can be misleading in how fast some teams want to play?Segment 2So, who is actually playing fast (like Wisconsin is...for them...this year) and how are they doing it?What are some faster playing programs doing differently to get a quicker shot?How are teams slowing down opponents' offenses but getting out ahead in transition or after a score?How has overall roster moves and lineup construction impacted a team's pace of play?Segment 3 and wrap upHow is a faster pace of play "modern" basketball even though teams have played "fast" (or taken lousy fast shots) throughout the ages?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode examines how college basketball programs experience and handle regression, exploring both historical patterns and current examples of teams navigating performance declines. Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth break down what separates programs that successfully bounce back from those that struggle to recover, while examining different strategies for mitigating regression's impact.Segment 1: Understanding RegressionHall of Fame coaches like Tom Izzo demonstrate that program success follows peaks and valleys rather than steady progressionSupporting players' statistical performance is significantly influenced by playing alongside All-American caliber teammatesMatt Painter's tenure at Purdue shows clear cycles of program building and regressionThe "Baby Boilers" to "Johnson years" transition illustrates how roster turnover impacts program stabilityDiscussion of how coach evaluation timelines have shortened in the transfer portal eraSegment 2: Teams on Regression WatchAnalysis of Purdue's outlook after losing Zach Edey and the challenges of maintaining elite statusTennessee's adaptation to losing Dalton Knecht and their defensive identityExamination of Baylor's roster construction and recruiting approachThe impact of minutes continuity on program stability and performanceHow conference strength affects a program's ability to manage regressionSegment 3: Bouncing BackComparison of Indiana and UCLA's different approaches to rebuilding through the transfer portalNotre Dame's focus on high school recruiting under Micah ShrewsburyCincinnati's emergence under Wes Miller through balanced recruitingThe role of program resources and brand in determining rebuild strategyHow NIL and the transfer portal have changed the timeline for program turnaroundsFor coaches, administrators, and invested fans, this episode provides context for understanding the cyclical nature of program success and offers insights into how modern programs can manage inevitable downturns. The discussion helps set realistic expectations while examining the various paths programs can take to maintain or regain competitive status.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bob, Mike, and special guest Robie Malcomson discuss how opportunities for athletes to earn NIL and share revenue are transforming the competitive landscape in college basketball.Segment 1: How Does This New Landscape Impact How We See “Amateur” Athletics?Who were Jim Thorpe, Phil Dickens, Sam Gilbert and Curt Flood? Why Do They Matter Here?Why Could We Add Ed O’Bannon To This Group? How Has His Case Paved The Way For Direct Compensation?In The Era of Tik Tok Stars and Influencers: Is Anyone Really an Amateur?Segment 2: What Are The Impacts Of Paid Players On Who Finds Success (and Who Doesn’t)?What Pathways Have We Or Could We See For High Major/Mid Major/Low Major Schools?How Have Other Related Yet Distinct Factors Also Have Impacted Teams and Programs? Why Water May Find Its Level In The Coming Years Like It Has In Other Sports Models?Segment 3 and Wrap Up: How Will The 2024-25 Season (and particularly IU’s Activity) Demonstrate Some Of This And What We’re Looking For?  Some relevant videos and articles:Sparta v ThebesO’Bannon v NCAACurt FloodJim ThorpeMary Lou RettonMcCaskeys and Kevin WarrenRobie is host of the Trapped in History podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trapped-in-history/id1753424077See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bob and Mike open with some discussion about (what else?) IU football, as well as Hoosier Hysteria and some IU basketball recruiting.Then it’s down to business for the main segment, which is dedicated to one of the most common buzzwords heard today when watching hoops: “modern” basketball.What exactly does that term? And how are offensive and defensive systems evolving?Segment 1: If Everyone Runs Motion and Plays Help Defense, Why Does It Look Different Than It Did?What is a “good” shot? Getting Your Shot and Preventing The Other Guy From Getting TheirsWhat It Was and What It’s Evolved Into? The Move From Passing to Dribble PenetrationHow Do You Balance The Need For Freedom Against the Necessity of Structure?Segment 2: Leads, Posts and Wings- How Changes In Player Skill and Athleticism Is The Leading Factor In What Teams Do.   What Does The Modern Player Look Like? (And Yes, They Are Built Better) Why Team Chemistry Still Matters A Great Deal? Longevity + Culture= WinningDavids and Goliaths: How To Mitigate Your Weaknesses Versus Your Opponent’s Strengths?Segment 3 and Wrap Up: The World Is Flat: An Idea and Innovation Can Span The Globe The Next DaySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s October, the month of scares and frights. So what better time to dive into one of the most terrifying subjects in sports: the psyche of fans!Specifically, Bob and Mike analyze fan biases and how they’re evolving. They also discuss the impact of these biases, and the expectations they create, on programs and coaches.Segment 1: Why *Do* Fans See Their Program As “The Unicorn” in a Field of Plow Horses?What Are Frequently Seen Fan Biases?How Have Those Biases Played Out Over The Years? How Are Biases Evolving?Segment 2: How Do Biases Impact What A Program Does?What Does Playing (Your School’s) Basketball Actually Mean?Why Are These Players (Your School’s) Type of Player?What Are Outcomes of “Divergences” Between Fans’ Biases and Programs’ Paths? Segment 3 and Wrap Up: Why Do We (Mike and Bob) Do This To Ourselves In Our Personal Fandom?In their next episode, Bob and Mike will discuss modern basketball and how both offensive and defensive systems are evolving. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bob and Mike take a little detour from their typical college basketball deep dives to discuss the most exciting current topic in Indiana sports: college football!They share their own college football stories, look around the college football landscape, and discuss the encouraging beginning to the Curt Cignetti Era.Two videos mentioned during their discussion:1991 Florida State at Michigan1979 Holiday Bowl: Indiana v BYUSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bob, Mike, and special guest Beau Haynes discuss the past, present, and future of the vaunted blue-blood head coaching job. How much have things really changed?Segment 1: What Makes A Program’s Blood Blue?Which program are at the top of the social register and how did they get there?How do their fans and the program set expectations and maintain “standards?”The search for the next Lama, Pop, or Godfather: why are blue-blood hires different?Segment 2: Do These “Blue Blood” Designations Really Matter Anymore?Why do prospective hires see offers they can refuse?Do 18-year-old kids really know about the history of Chuck Taylor?How have some programs broken into the country club locker room?Segment 3 and Wrap UpDoes the modern landscape allow for true blue bloods anymore? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bob and Mike look back at last season and trace some highs and lows from different teams that went heavy in the portal to build their rosters.Segment 1: How The Portal Worked Well For SomeThe Levels of Success In College Basketball (Chart 1)South CarolinaNorth CarolinaSegment 2: How It Didn’t Go Well For Some OthersReviewing The Chip Stack TheoryWashingtonMissouri Segment 3 and Wrap Up: Indiana’s Portal HaulSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bob and Mike are joined by Galen Clavio to reflect on one of the most tumultuous times in the history of Indiana University sports: the final years of the Bob Knight.Segment 1: The End of the Beginning to the Beginning of the End: Closing Out the Breaking Away YearsPlaid Jackets to Sweaters, NapTown Rising, and Cowboy Bob Riding Off -- Life in the Mid 80sMoving Past The Brink -- Cracks in the Foundation and Facade A New Sheriff Comes To Town -- Is The Town Big Enough For The Two Of ThemSegment 2: Paradise Lost“We Need Players”- America’s New Public University Has An Obsolete Athletics Department “Has The Game Passed Him By”- How Changes In The Game Impacted Mindsets“Death By A Thousand Cuts”- The True Meaning of Zero ToleranceSegment 3 and Wrap Up: Why This Still Matters?Next up, in episode 15, Mike and Bob will be looking at some transfer portal case studies to determine how some teams found success and others found the floor last season.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this edition of Xs & Joes, Bob and Mike discuss a topic of paramount importance to so many college sports programs across the country: history and legacy. How much does it actually matter for present-day winning?Segment 1: How To Define Programs’ Legacies?A Winning Tradition: Past Performance Does Not *Necessarily” Predict Future ResultsA Program’s Mount Rushmore: The Images That Represent Who You Were And AreAre You Cover or SI or Game Of The Week Worthy: The Changing Landscape of MediaSegment 2: Blue Bloods/New Bloods: Leveraging Your and/or Others’ HistoriesHow Some Traditional Powerhouses Have Reinvented ThemselvesHow Other Programs Have Broken Through- Temporary and Consistent PerformersAre We Down or Dilapidated- When Does A Program Become “Grey Gardens”Segment 3 and Wrap Up: Traditions and Fight Songs And Mike and Bob tease a special guest for episode 14: Galen Clavio!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.