JOHN CENA SMILES AT DEATH or AEW = BEST IN THE WORLD? (Wrestling Soup 12.17.25)

– Intro & Holiday Banter– Show Length & Review Philosophy– Sports Podcasts & Seth Everywhere– Nikki Bella Segment & Rumors– Wrestling Rumors & Conspiracy Theories– Bronson Reed & Promo Styles– Maxine, Becky Lynch, and Women’s Division– AJ Styles’ Role & Hair Talk– Jevon Evans’ Match & Enhancement Talent– Raquel, Judgment Day, and Storyline Threads– Bailey vs. Roxy & Character Development– Gunther’s Segment & Heel Work– Main Event Setup: Punk & Mysterio vs. Reed & Theory– Logan Paul Speculation & Closing ThoughtsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

LuFisto and Evil Dos cover the AAA GUERRA DE TITANES December 20th show. Rey Mysterio & Rey Fenix vs. El Grande Americano & Dominik MysterioDragon Lee vs. El Hijo del VikingoAAA World Cruiserweight Championship Triple Threat Match: Laredo Kid (c) vs. Je’Von Evans vs. Jack CartwheelNiño Hamburguesa & Mr. Iguana vs. Bravo Americano & Rayo Americano vs. Cruz Del Toro & Joaquin Wilde vs. La Parka & Octagón Jr.Carnival of Carnage Match: The Wyatt Sicks vs. Pagano, Psycho Clown, Dave the Clown & Murder ClownAAA Latin American Championship Match: El Hijo de Dr. Wagner Jr. vs. Ethan PageLas Tóxicas vs. Natalya, Faby Apache & Lola ViceBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

Joe and Anthony dust off the old Shitbox and take listener voicemails about the final match of John Cena and where he goes after WWE. - Old entertainers get cancelled.- political stances about rural areas of the US- Cena voicemailsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

00:00 – Opening Banter & Audio Troubles00:50 – Plastic Surgery in Wrestling02:42 – Saturday Night’s Main Event Reactions03:36 – The Influence of Algorithms & Internet Culture05:29 – Comparing Ads – Podcasts vs. Corporations09:52 – John Cena’s Retirement & Legacy14:30 – Wrestling Storytelling & Nostalgia26:44 – Foreign Invader Storylines & WWE’s Global Image52:31 – Sports Illustrated Wrestling Awards1:05:00 – State of Women’s Wrestling & Ambition1:23:44 – Closing Thoughts & Community UpdatesBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

Join Anthony and Joe as they dive deep into the latest Monday Night Raw, dissecting the fallout from John Cena’s retirement, Gunther’s controversial win, and the current state of WWE’s creative direction. From hilarious opening banter to sharp critiques of booking decisions, this episode covers it all—plus, thoughts on Logan Paul, Nikki Bella, and the future of wrestling’s biggest stars. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a casual viewer, you’ll find plenty to laugh about and ponder in this unfiltered, passionate review. :gunshot:00:00 – Cold Open & Banter: Reubens, fiber, and afternoon delight01:10 – Anthony and Joe introduce the show02:10 – Raw Recap: “Not trying” and the feeling of a series finale03:00 – Gunther’s Booking: What did he do wrong?05:00 – The Cena Conundrum: Why is everyone mad at Gunther?08:00 – Storyline Analysis: Is WWE leaning on old tropes?10:00 – The Foreign Heel: Are fans booing for the right reasons?12:00 – WWE’s Creative Direction: Locker room reactions and missed opportunities15:00 – Logan Paul in the Main Event: Is WWE out of ideas?18:00 – Nikki Bella, Stephanie, and the Women’s Division21:00 – Booking Blunders: Austin Theory, LA Knight, and crowd reactions25:00 – WWE’s Business Model: International tours, ticket prices, and fan fatigue28:00 – The Future of WWE: Can the product survive on hype alone?31:00 – Side Tangents: Mr. Beast Land, Randy Orton, and Saudi Arabia34:00 – Wrapping Up: Listener voicemails, final thoughts, and what’s nextDon’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more wrestling reviews and discussions!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

We went live on YouTube immediately following Saturday Night’s Main Event, and let’s be honest—the chat saw exactly what we saw. We watched the "End of an Era," but instead of an emotional goodbye, WWE gave us a retirement party planned by a focus group. It was sterile, it was underwhelming, and it was the definition of corporate.We break down the disconnect: The audience wanted to give Cena his flowers, but the execution was lifeless. We talk about Gunther being the absolute right guy for the job, but being handcuffed by "cheeseball" booking that felt like it was written for a cartoon in 1988, not a retirement in 2025. The H Machine managed to take a historic moment and make it feel like an HR meeting.We also touched on the rest of the card—briefly—because we had to. We look at Cody Rhodes vs. Oba Femi, Bayley mixing it up with Sol Ruca, and AJ Styles & Dragon Lee in a tag match against... I’ve already forgotten their names, and judging by the crowd reaction, so did everyone else.Come for the rant on the booking, stay for the reality check on Cena’s farewell.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

This episode covers the swirling rumors about the possible reveal of Ricky Starks, and the ever-changing landscape of wrestling stables. The guys debate the merits of Austin Theory, Ricky Starks, and other rising stars, while reflecting on the booking decisions of WWE and the influence of Netflix on the product.You'll also hear their takes on John Cena's retirement match, the future of top talents like Gunther, and the challenges facing both new and veteran wrestlers. Plus, enjoy candid discussions about wrestling's international expansion, the business side of the industry, and plenty of hilarious side tangents about music videos, celebrity appearances, and more.0:00 - WWE Rumors & Ricky Starks Speculation15:00 - Austin Theory, Ethan Page, and the State of WWE Booking30:00 - John Cena's Retirement & Future of the Roster45:00 - International Expansion & Netflix's Role1:00:00 - Wrestling in Pop Culture & Final ThoughtsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

In this episode of Wrestling Soup, Joe and Anthony dive into the latest Monday Night Raw, breaking down the highs, lows, and everything in between. The guys discuss the rushed Maxine Dupree and Natty storyline, critique WWE’s current creative direction, and share their thoughts on the state of the women’s division. They also touch on the War Raiders’ booking, the ongoing saga of the Usos and New Day, and speculate about the future with so many top stars nearing retirement. Tthe hosts debate whether AI is secretly running WWE and what the company needs to do to get back on track.Show opens, Joe and Anthony banter about going live and introduce the show.Discussion about Monday Night Raw, initial reactions, and Anthony’s viewing habits.Raw review: Maxine Dupree and Natty promo, and the rushed storyline.Commentary on the state of WWE creative, including Triple H’s absence and speculation about AI writing the show.War Raiders segment: critique of the state of tag teams.Jay and Jim Uso segment, New Day’s involvement, and the lack of heat for tag titles.Talk about upcoming retirements: AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Sheamus, John Cena, and the future of WWE’s roster.Women’s division focus: Stephanie promo, Nikki Bella’s appearance, Raquel Rodriguez’s involvement.More on the women’s matches: Rox vs. Lyra Valkyria, makeup mishaps.Main event setup: Logan Paul, LA Knight, and the Masked Man angle.Criticism of Logan Paul’s inexperience and the need for better booking/protection of new talent.Final thoughts: lackluster promos, Gunther’s segment, and the overall poor quality of the show.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

0:00 – Opening banter, ice cream and mall food courts1:45 – Dippin' Dots and ice cream nostalgia3:03 – Bubble tea and unique drinks5:23 – Ben & Jerry’s, ice cream in Chicago8:22 – Movie and pop culture discussion18:56 – WWE, John Cena, and wrestling business talk31:11 – The Rock, Roman Reigns, and wrestling storylines47:23 – WWE business, ESPN, and pay-per-view pricing1:00:00 – Audience, ticket prices, and wrestling economics1:20:00 – Security at wrestling events, Paige story1:34:52 – Closing remarks, shoutouts, and outroBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

In this episode, Anthony and Joe deliver a sharp, humorous, and unfiltered review of WWE’s latest programming, focusing on the fallout from War Games and the current state of Monday Night Raw. They debate the quality of the pay-per-view, critique WWE’s creative direction and booking—especially the use of gimmick matches and the influence of agents and writers—and discuss the ongoing storylines involving Jay Uso, Roman Reigns, and the Bloodline. The hosts also spotlight the women’s division, particularly the evolving dynamic between Maxine Dupree and Natalya, and praise standout performances like Gunther’s match with Solo Sikoa. Throughout, they mix wrestling insight with fan perspective, touch on the live event experience and ticket prices, and offer forward-looking thoughts on WWE’s future, all while keeping the conversation lively and engaging.00:06 – The challenge of grading multi-person matches01:10 – Cage match gimmicks and creative frustrations05:31 – Blame game: creative, agents, and match quality06:10 – Extended intro and transition to Raw review06:10 – Jay Uso’s storyline and emotional promo18:11 – Roman Reigns, Bloodline, and the future of the faction22:55 – Under Armour ad parody and Maxine Dupree’s storyline30:33 – Natty as a mentor and women’s division storytelling36:00 – Maxine Dupree’s character direction and limitations54:00 – WWE’s use of veteran talent01:01:50 – Raw’s “epic” billing and show structure critique01:20:00 – Main event: Women’s tag match and aftermath01:28:36 – Closing thoughts, Gunther praise, and sign-offBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.