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Saturn-Neptune: Magic & the Metaphysical

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In episode 605, depth psychotherapist and astrologer Shawna McGrath, LMFT (she/her) shares how Saturn and Neptune both connect with and deepen our understanding of magic and the metaphysical.


Professor of Religious Studies at University of Amsterdam, Jacqueline de Borsje, defined magic as:


“words and acts performed by human beings, which are believed to bring about changes in the empirical world or to produce knowledge of hidden things in a supernatural way.”


reference: Borsje, J. "Witchcraft and magic in Seán Duffy (ed.), Medieval Ireland: an encyclopedia, New York and London: Routledge, 2005. pp. 518 - 520


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