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Should we Ditch Employee Engagement? with Mark C Crowley

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In this impactful conversation, Mark C. Crowley unpacks the critical shift from traditional employee engagement metrics to a focus on employee wellbeing.


He emphasizes that wellbeing is not merely a perk but a fundamental driver of organizational success. The discussion highlights the importance of regular feedback, managerial accountability, and the role of love and positive emotions in leadership. Mark argues that leaders must understand their values and foster a caring workplace culture to enhance employee performance and satisfaction.



You'll learn:


  • Why wellbeing is the driver of organizational flourishing.
  • The backstory on why engagement metrics have not improved over 20 years.
  • How regular feedback is crucial for employee performance.
  • Why wellbeing should not be a perk but a priority.
  • The need for managers to be accountable for their impact on employees.
  • How to create a caring workplace culture that enhances performance.
  • Key reasons leaders should know their values to lead effectively.
  • How trusting employees with autonomy improves wellbeing.
  • Why love and positive emotions are essential in the workplace.
  • The impact of personal accountability for effective leadership.


Mark C. Crowley is a pioneer in workplace leadership, speaker, and bestselling author of Lead from the Heart. He is the host of the acclaimed Lead from the Heart podcast. His new book is The Power of Employee Well-Being: Move Beyond Engagement to Build Flourishing Teams.



Explore the episode


00:00 The Engagement Dilemma

04:56 Rethinking Employee Well-Being

07:52 The Shift from Engagement to Well-Being

10:50 Understanding the Business Case for Well-Being

13:47 Managerial Responsibility in Employee Well-Being

16:57 The Importance of Self-Awareness for Leaders

24:51 The Journey of Leadership and Self-Discovery

25:47 The Importance of Feedback in Leadership

30:57 Defining Personal Values and Credo

35:12 Loosening Control for Employee Wellbeing

40:53 The Role of Love in Leadership

47:48 Leading with Humanity

47:48 Creating Flourishing Workplaces


Learn more about Mark's work and where to get his latest book at https://www.wearehumanleaders.com/podcast/should-we-ditch-employee-engagement


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