Ep. 307 - Why Millennials Are Leaving the Church: The Hard Truth No One Wants to Hear

Today, Ray, E.Z., and Mark are joined by Nathan W. Bingham, Vice President of Ministry Engagement at Ligonier Ministries and host of Renewing Your Mind. The distinction between knowing about God and truly knowing Him is essential. While God has revealed Himself to all creation, saving knowledge of Him is unique and transformative. Many, even within the church, worship a god of their own making, mistaking it for the one true God. This can complicate evangelism, particularly in places like the United States, where cultural Christianity often obscures genuine faith. In the Bible, even Samuel initially did not recognize God's voice, highlighting that knowing God is not merely about religious activity but a personal relationship.Knowing God transforms the heart and life. It doesn’t mean constant bliss but includes trials and suffering that refine faith and draw believers closer to Him. When life is challenging, believers can rest in the promise of a loving Heavenly Father who walks with them through every valley. Trusting God’s sovereignty and goodness allows us to cast our cares on Him, knowing He works all things for our good. Even discouragement and repentance reflect God’s work in our lives, urging us to leave sin and run to Him.The best way to know God is through His Word. Scripture provides an objective foundation, revealing God’s character and attributes, such as His holiness, love, grace, and justice. Modern Christianity often emphasizes God's love while neglecting His holiness—the only attribute in Scripture raised to the third degree. Isaiah’s vision of God’s holiness revealed his own sinfulness, reminding us that even our best deeds fall short compared to God’s perfection. A proper understanding of God's holiness compels repentance and awe.Salvation rests solely on faith in God’s promises, rooted in His grace and mercy. Knowing Christ is central—misunderstanding Christ means misunderstanding the gospel. God’s sovereignty assures us that He doesn’t merely try to save; He saves. This truth offers comfort, as everything God does is holy, good, and trustworthy. Though we don’t know what tomorrow holds, we know God’s character and can rely on Him. To grow in knowing God, immerse yourself in Scripture. Meditate on His Word, where God reveals Himself fully. A life transformed by truly knowing the Lord reflects His holiness and glorifies Him.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

Adoption is one of the most profound aspects of salvation, yet it's often under-discussed. Ray, E.Z., and Mark talk about how adoption into God’s family is the highest privilege the gospel offers, revealing a beautiful truth about Christians being chosen and loved by God.b For many, spiritual adoption seems unfamiliar or even confusing. Scripture clarifies that only those who are in Christ are truly His children. When witnessing, we can gently and truthfully share this distinction, echoing Jesus’ example of speaking truth in love. Adoption into God’s family is something close to His heart, and it holds tremendous significance for believers.Physical adoption also gives us insight into the sacrifice and dedication it requires. Just as a family adopts a child and chooses to care for them for life, God’s adoption of us involves a life-changing commitment. Mark shares stories of families who have adopted children with disabilities, devoting themselves to their well-being. This reflection on earthly adoption gives a glimpse into the spiritual adoption we receive from God. When we are adopted by Him, we are chosen and accepted despite our flaws and past rejections, placed exactly where He wants us to be. Many people, especially women facing unplanned pregnancies, may view adoption negatively or not as an option. Imagine the impact if our culture and government prioritized adoption and invested in providing homes for children rather than abortion. There are families ready to adopt, and believers can play a unique role by stepping up to meet this need. As Christians, we are called to transform lives by bringing children into loving, Christ-centered homes. While not everyone can physically adopt, every believer can support adoption through prayer and action, offering love and a sense of belonging to those in need. Prayer itself is a powerful form of adoption, as we intercede for others before God’s throne. Understanding adoption as part of our salvation shows us the depths of God's love and grace. God adopted us in our broken, rebellious state. We were His enemies, yet He loved us and brought us into His family. This truth should stir our hearts as believers; through adoption, we become heirs with Christ, sharing in His inheritance and forming deep connections with our brothers and sisters in Christ. Let’s live with a renewed appreciation of this beautiful promise—embracing the family of God and reflecting His love to the world.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

The role of Christians in caring for orphans and widows is central to the faith, aligning with Christianity's mission to reach out to the world. Ray, E.Z., and Mark talk about how true religion, as James teaches, is evident in caring for orphans and widows. If believers claim faith but don’t reach out, they are missing the mark. For example, Mark shared how his son spent time with elderly people, teaching them to use their phones—an act of compassion and connection.Pure and undefiled religion, according to James, is about visiting widows and orphans. God has a special place in His heart for the vulnerable, as He provides for our needs in the same way. Once, Mark admitted, he mocked those in need, but through God’s conviction, his heart changed. Ignoring those in need should also move us deeply. In the United States, discerning genuine need can be challenging, as some see direct handouts as enabling. Many recommend supporting established organizations rather than giving money directly, especially in urban areas where resources are available.Some people see Christians as unkind, but actions like taking someone out to eat or simply spending time can be transformative. Believers can get involved with orphans and foster children, visit the elderly, or simply reach out to neighbors. Ray and his wife befriended a widow and regularly brought her food, showing how small gestures can open doors to greater ministry. Similarly, widows often face scams and vulnerabilities, especially with finances. Professionals in fields like medicine and law can use their skills to protect and serve them.No one can solve all needs, but each can take tangible steps. Each person has unique abilities—whether it's physical help like yard work or offering companionship. These actions open doors for sharing the gospel. Good works are a witness to our faith, and serving brings joy, not because it earns salvation but because it aligns with our calling. True blessing comes from generosity, using our resources to bless others.For those struggling financially or timewise, Jesus teaches to let our light shine. This can be through gospel tracts, acts of service, or sharing financial blessings as we’re able. Our giving, in any form, reflects God’s provision to us. We’re called to pray and be part of God’s answer to others' prayers. Combining good works with the gospel helps show the divine compassion toward the vulnerable. Christians are called to joyful conviction, living out God’s heart for the widow and the orphan, and aligning their actions with His compassion.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German pastor and theologian, is remembered as being deeply devoted to Christ. Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar talk of Bonhoeffer’s life as being marked by bravery and love for God, making him an inspiring example for Christians wrestling with difficult moral questions. Bonhoeffer, born in 1906, was a key figure in the resistance against Nazism in Germany and ultimately sacrificed his life for his faith and involvement in resistance efforts.With Hitler’s influence in Germany growing to include the church, Bonhoeffer refused to align with the Riech’s beliefs. His courage was evident as he actively spread the message of resistance across Europe. Although a self-proclaimed pacifist, Bonhoeffer's conviction was tested with his involvement in resisting the Nazis. This moral conflict illustrates that some situations demanded extraordinary measures. He was eventually imprisoned and executed, but even in his death, Bonhoeffer exhibited a profound peace, knowing he had laid down his life for Christ.The discussion around Bonhoeffer extends to the ethical dilemmas Christians face. Two-thirds of German Christians initially supported Hitler, swayed by his promises to the church. Bonhoeffer, however, warned against nationalism and argued that Christians could not serve both the nation and Christ. His stance was unpopular, but he held firm, believing that truth is non-negotiable. For Bonhoeffer, consequences were irrelevant if they meant compromising his commitment to the Lord. He argued that love for Christ cannot remain silent in the face of tyranny.In discussing how to handle difficult moral situations, the conversation turns to God's sovereignty. Christians may face yes-or-no questions, but they must discern the deeper implications of their actions. Should one lie to save a life, for example? The guys talk about how lying is sinful, and argue that deception can glorify God if it protects the innocent, as seen in Rahab’s story. The guys offer various perspectives on this topic.The Bible doesn't provide easy answers to every situation, but it gives believers the guidance they need. Bonhoeffer's life shows that obedience to God often requires standing against the norms of society. Christians must find conviction, pray for guidance, and take action, trusting God with the consequences. Like Bonhoeffer, they are called to stand for truth, love the oppressed, and live without compromise. God’s sovereignty means Christians can trust Him even in the most difficult moral dilemmas, knowing that Christ is at the center of it all.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

The LGBTQ community has changed from something that was rarely seen to now something that is seen almost daily. Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar jump into this topic by encouraging believers to not be scared to address sensitive topics with their kids. Be proactive. Kids are exposed to these issues as early as kindergarten, so it’s crucial to teach them before the world does. Tailor the conversation to their age, and frame it in light of scripture. Ray recalls when these topics weren’t an issue, sharing an experience of someone confused about their identity finding salvation. He emphasizes that repentance means turning over a new leaf.Teaching kids about these sensitive matters while fostering compassion is vital. Silence allows the world’s lies to take root, leading kids to believe sexuality is shameful or that God doesn’t care about their LGBTQ friends. The guys encourage Christians to avoid an us vs. them mentality, which can imply shame. All non-Christians are trapped in ideologies that promise freedom but deliver bondage, and LGBTQ neighbors need salvation too. The goal is to remind kids of the hope of the gospel and that we are all image bearers of God.The issue of whether or not to send your children to public school or homeschool comes down to conviction. Your children may have a strong relationship with the Lord if they go to public school, but E.Z. suggests evaluating whether they can withstand worldly pressures. Radical discipleship is necessary in any case, including daily devotions and biblically sound content. The guys suggest using any encounters with unbiblical ideas as teaching moments without reacting in shock, instead gently probing your children’s hearts.In this conversation, the guys address how Christian kids should be taught to interact with LGBTQ individuals. Teach your kids about God’s existence and accountability, instilling a healthy fear of the Lord. Emphasize that God is reconciling the world to Himself through grace. Remind kids they are created in the image of God, and His design leads to joy. Train kids to speak the truth in love. Focus on God’s commandments rather than individual sins.For non-Christians who wonder why believers are against someone living their life the way they want to, know that God isn’t withholding joy but offering greater joy beyond mere desires. All people were designed with purpose, meaning, and value. Don’t settle for less when God offers fullness of life in Christ. Parents must lead these conversations with their children, helping them see both the ugliness of sin and the beauty of God’s design.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

Many say they need to find themselves, but what does that mean? Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar talk about how when we look within ourselves for meaning, we walk away disheartened. The truth is, we find ourselves by losing ourselves in Christ. Believers don’t need to find themselves; they need to forget themselves. When we keep our eyes on the Lord, the opinions of others won’t bother us. Only when we realize that Jesus is all we have do we understand He’s all we need.What we think about ourselves dictates our entire lives. Historically, people found identity through those around them, but when society decays, this can fail. The world tells people to look, but our hearts make terrible gods. What happens when an entire generation looks inside and sees hypocrisy, lies, and brokenness? The gospel teaches Christians to look to the Lord for our identity. Before Ray was saved, he felt an inner cry that only Christ could answer. In Him, we find truth, and the truth sets us free. The call isn’t to discover ourselves, but to deny ourselves for God’s glory. Many people don’t know why they’re alive—that’s the horror of a life without God. We must return to the God who made our souls.The world tells us to love ourselves, but Scripture says to love our neighbors as ourselves because self-love comes naturally. Today’s culture sets us up as gods. This is why so many people, including celebrities, end up lost and lonely. Only when we understand what Jesus did and who He is can we find peace. The guys talk about a believer’s biblical identity as sons and daughters of the living God. We don’t need to find our identity—it was given to us in salvation. When our eyes are on the Lord, everything else falls into place. Even in uncertainty, we don’t question God’s love. The Lord is our foundation and salvation, and it is well with our souls. To be loved by God as His child is to be adopted into His family. As believers, our identity is found in being God’s prized possession. His love for us is deeper than any human love. Out of all creation, His adopted children are His favorite. We are His inheritance. When we possess the greatest treasure, nothing else matters. We’ve been touched by the living God, and we don’t need to search for meaning—we are His children. When the world comes against us, God defends us. Our worth is found in Him alone. Look to the cross, and you will never lose sight of His love. There's no greater cure for your soul than being consumed by the Lord.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

The American dream, often defined as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, has increasingly become intertwined with the pursuit of money and success. Many politicians refer to this idea, yet it doesn’t reflect the reality for much of the world, where many are just trying to survive. While it’s not wrong to be financially well off, the American dream often replaces God’s kingdom with idols. Success can become an idol competing with God’s rightful place in our lives. Our hearts are prone to idolatry, constantly producing desires that compete with God. The Christian life is like climbing an ice mountain, striving to glorify God in all things, while the world tempts us to fall back into its traps.Success often ties a person to the world, but this world is fading. Contentment, however, is the key to true enjoyment of life. "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want." We entered this world with nothing, and we leave with nothing. Be content with the things of God, for the pursuit of worldly satisfaction will never fulfill. The American dream has shifted over time, from preparing for eternity, to building strong families, to now chasing self-fulfillment and consumerism. But satisfaction is never found in accumulating more things; the world is designed to make us want more, but true contentment only comes from God.This drive for success is ultimately empty. Discontentment is often rooted in covetousness, but we can find peace in knowing that God will never leave us. Our identity is found in Christ, and we must remember to decrease so He may increase. Though Jesus was rich, He became poor for our sake, and He is the ultimate treasure. We gain everything in knowing Christ, and we must invest our hearts and lives in God’s kingdom.True success is being consumed by the living God. If we devoted ourselves to prayer, meditation on God’s Word, and a deep relationship with Him, we would be transformed. Wealth alone doesn’t make a person carnal, but worldly success without God is ultimately meaningless. Whether you work in ministry or in a secular job, your work is sacred when done for the Lord. Invest your time, witness to others, make and save money, but also give generously. It’s not about us but about Christ’s work on the cross. Godliness with contentment is of great value. As Christians, we must live with an eternal mindset, pursuing Christ above all. No greater joy will be found than in being consumed with Christ, and He will care for you as you seek Him. Focus your week on glorifying the Lord in all that you do.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

Millennials leaving the church raises important questions. Some may wonder if their departure reflects a lack of genuine faith. Faith based on other people rather than a relationship with God can easily falter. Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar encourage believers to stir one another up in the faith while many are becoming disillusioned with the church in our current culture. The failure of church leadership, fallen pastors, and hypocrisy have turned many against Christianity. At the same time, society has grown skeptical of authority, leading to a shift where people exchange one belief system for another—replacing Christianity with politics, entertainment, or other man made religions.Hypocrisy within the church is often pointed out, and while it's important to acknowledge this, we are reminded that everyone will give an account to God. Christians, however, have the grace to admit their faults and repent. Integrity in God's eyes comes through repentance. There’s also the issue of the modern church’s frivolity. Millennials have high expectations for authenticity. While larger, entertainment-driven churches may be losing members, smaller traditional churches are growing, offering a more grounded, relational approach to faith. Millennials crave genuine community, but they often see the church as existing for itself rather than for others. True fellowship, as modeled in the early church, is a communal way of living that goes beyond a Sunday gathering.One challenge for younger generations is that older generations often look down on them, which can drive them away. Instead, the church needs to engage millennials, offering them a seat at the table. They need to feel known, loved, and valued in a gospel-centered community, not just attend a service led by a polished preacher. Authentic leadership fosters a dynamic church community. Rather than waiting for Millenials to come to church, believers must take the church to them, proclaiming the gospel. Sound doctrine is essential, as it safeguards faith, and Millennials are hungry for it. Preachers should focus less on growing the church and more on being the church—leading by example and letting the word of God do its work.For those who have left the church, it’s essential to examine why. You won’t find a perfect church, but look for one with authentic community and sound teaching. God doesn’t change—He is righteous. The heart of the church recognizes that we are all sinners in need of grace. Corporate worship is for God’s people, and it’s through this gathering that we grow in our faith.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

Jonny Ardavanis joins Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar to discuss finding peace in the character of God, as explored in his book, Consider the Lilies. Though he never initially saw himself as a pastor, he now serves full-time in Tennessee, driven by a desire to offer hope in an anxious world. In full time ministry Jonny observed widespread struggles with anxiety and depression, prompting him to explore these issues from a biblical perspective. He emphasizes that anxiety isn’t limited to young people; it’s a pervasive issue that many try to escape by staying busy. However, busyness often worsens the problem, as true peace comes from deep reflection on God’s character.Jonny argues that anxiety is like a ski lift that never reaches the top of the mountain—an ever-present tension beneath the surface. The guys along with Jonny talk about slowing down and contemplating God’s attributes to combat this. They suggest that believers often fill their lives with neutral things that offer no real help, leading to an underdeveloped view of God’s attributes. In Scripture, when God addresses the anxious, He reveals His character, reminding them that He is an ever-present help in times of trouble. Jonny emphasizes that God’s sovereignty cannot be separated from His character. For instance, when David was fleeing from Saul, he found comfort in knowing that God understood him deeply, which calmed his anxious heart. Jonny highlights that even Jesus, fully human, experienced deep sorrow and distress, showing empathy and tender care for the anxious.When addressing those who feel condemned by their anxiety, Jonny advises starting with questions and acknowledging that fear is a human experience. Christians should lean on their community and cast their cares on God, who is stronger and wiser. Jonny also addresses the modern epidemic of loneliness, noting that anxiety often isolates people from what they need most—being known and loved. He encourages people to be open with God and the local church, reminding them that they don’t have to bear their burdens alone. Jesus, who knew true grief, betrayal, and abandonment, identifies with us in our suffering. The group concludes that knowing God leads to experiencing the peace of God. This relationship is both a privilege and a foundation for hope. We can be confident that God will not leave us, because He forsook His own Son on the cross to secure our relationship with Him. This assurance, coupled with understanding the character of God, draws believers into a deeper intimacy and trust in Him.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro

As election season approaches, it's important to reflect on how we should engage with politics. Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar remind us that politicians are human and flawed, and while we may support certain candidates, it’s essential to remember a believer’s ultimate citizenship is in heaven. Israel was instructed to contribute to society while in exile but also warned not to assimilate with the culture. Likewise, we should engage but avoid political idolatry, as our hope lies in God’s kingdom, not in earthly leaders.When we place more hope in a political candidate than in God, we risk idolatry. No political agenda can achieve what Christ secured on the cross. While America is imperfect, the freedom to practice and share our faith without fear is a blessing; however when patriotism becomes blind to flaws, it turns into an idol. So, how do Christians engage in politics without falling into idolatry? The key is not to let politics become our savior or source of joy. Political ideologies often mirror eschatological themes—creation, fall, redemption—but they can conflict with God’s narrative. When we elevate ideologies above our faith, they become idols. Civil conversations, even with those who disagree, help us maintain peace and avoid the divisiveness that leads to idolatry.God establishes governing authorities, and while rebellion can be justified under certain circumstances our general posture should be one of submission. The American spirit often leans toward rebellion, but scripture calls for a heart of submission and lament, not pride. True rebellion is only warranted when it’s a matter of following God’s commands. Christians are called to be peacemakers in a world of anger and division. Until Christ returns, we are to occupy this world without becoming overly attached to it. We can vote, but the election results are in God’s hands. Trust in His plan and focus on walking with the Lord, knowing He’s in control. While it’s natural to feel upset by outcomes, do not let them shake your faith. Watch your words, and remember that political identities should never overshadow your identity as a child of God.Christians are called to participate in politics but with a higher allegiance to the kingdom of God. Involvement is important, but so is checking the order of our love and ensuring that the gospel, not an agenda, guides us. We should vote, teach our children about politics, and even run for office, but always keep our ultimate focus on God’s kingdom.Send us a text Thanks for listening! If you’ve been helped by this podcast, we’d be grateful if you’d consider subscribing, sharing, and leaving us a comment and 5-star rating! Visit the Living Waters website to learn more and to access helpful resources!You can find helpful counseling resources at biblicalcounseling.com.Check out The Evidence Study Bible and the Basic Training Course.You can connect with us at [email protected]. We're thankful for your input!Learn more about the hosts of this podcast.Ray ComfortEmeal (“E.Z.”) ZwayneMark SpenceOscar Navarro