Managing Risk with Digital Twins - What Do We Do Next? [the industrial security podcast]

Asset inventory, networks and router / firewall configurations, device criticality - a lot of information. How can we USE this information to make useful decisions about next steps to address cyber risk? Vivek Ponada of Frenos joins us to explore a new kind of OT / industrial digital twin - grab all that data and work it to draw useful conclusions.

We don't have budget to fix the problem, so we accept the risk? Tim McCreight of TaleCraft Security in his (coming soon) book "I don't sign s**t" uses story-telling to argue that front line security leaders should not be accepting multi-billion dollar risks on behalf of the business. We need to escalate those decisions - with often surprising results when we do.

NIS2 legislation is late in many EU countries, and the new CRA applies to most suppliers of industrial / OT computerized and software products to the EU. Christina Kiefer, attorney at reuschlaw, walks us through what's new and what it means for vendors, as well as for owner / operators.

Hundreds of subsystems with the same IP addresses? Thousands of legacy devices with no modern encryption or other security? Constant, acquisitions of facilities "all over the place" network-wise and security-wise? What most of us need is "network duct tape". Tom Sego of Blastwave shows us how their "duct tape" works.

Safety defines cybersecurity - Kenneth Titlestad of Omny joins us to explore safety, risk, likelihood, credibility, and deterministic / unhackable cyber defenses - a lot of it in the context of Norwegian offshore platforms.

How did they get in? How did we find them when they got in? What can we do in future to clean up the mess faster? Chris Sistrunk reflects on a decades' industrial cyber incident response experience at Mandiant (Google).

Asset inventory tools have become almost ubiquitous as main offerings or add-ons to OT security solutions. In this episode, Brian Derrico of Trident Cyber Partners walks us through what it's like to use these tools - different kinds of tools in different environments.

Industrial incidents can be cyber attacks, or equipment failures, or physical equipment leaking product because of metal fatigue or incorrect welds. OT incident responders need to know a lot. Doug Leece of Enbridge explores what is OT incident response and what you look for recruiting people into that role.

For safety-critical operations or for critical national infrastructures, would you rather base your system on a code that people have tested as best they can, or would you rather base your system on a platform that has been proven correct? Daly Brown and Nick Foubert of Metropolitan Technologies look at a new approach to designing OT systems.

Most of us struggle to get funding for industrial cybersecurity. Ian Fleming of Deloitte explains how - because cybersecurity is essential to sustaining the value of industrial assets - how we can embed up to 20 or 30 years of cybersecurity budget into capital plans, rather than fight for budget every year.