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Scrum Master vs Delivery Manager: What’s the Difference?: David Erskine-Shaw

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How do you break into tech delivery without a technical background?


In this episode, Dave shares his journey from working in HMRC and sales roles to becoming a highly experienced Agile delivery professional , working across fintech, aviation tech, and large-scale organisations.


We cover:

How to get into tech without coding

The difference between Scrum Master, Delivery Manager & Project Manager

Why sales skills are underrated in tech careers

The reality of Agile consulting and contracting

How to build credibility when joining a new team

Why quick wins matter more than big transformations

The importance of culture, chemistry, and being yourself at work


Dave also shares a powerful perspective on Agile:


It’s not about “doing Scrum”, it’s about delivering value.


If you're trying to move into tech, grow as a delivery leader, or become a better consultant, this episode is packed with real-world insights.


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▶︎Chapters:

0:00 Introduction to Dave

0:21 10+ Years in Tech Delivery Explained

0:49 Learning Across Roles (Tester → BA → Delivery)

1:23 Why He Chose Delivery Over Technical Roles

1:41 Life Before Tech (HMRC, Sales & Early Career)

2:24 The Reality of Moving Into the Private Sector

2:42 Lessons Learned from Sales (Underrated Skills)

3:27 Advice for Young People Starting Careers

4:02 Why “Earning Your Stripes” Matters

5:13 The Role That Changed Everything (Law Firm)

5:42 Moving Into Leadership Through Performance

6:01 First Step Into Tech (Testing Role)

6:40 Becoming a Scrum Master & Delivery Leader

7:30 Why He Leaned Into Delivery Management

8:05 “Jack of All Trades” – Strength or Weakness?

8:40 Leaving a Role to Grow Your Career

9:16 Working in Aviation Tech & Fintech

9:51 Why Delivery Manager Is the Best Role

10:24 Why He Moved Into Contracting

11:09 Making Yourself Redundant as a Scrum Master

12:01 Agile Consulting Life Explained

12:53 What Good Agile Teams Look Like

13:47 Scaling Delivery & Improving Teams

14:42 Looking at the Full System (Not Just Scrum)

15:24 Why Chemistry Matters in Teams

16:04 Culture Shock: Liverpool vs Cambridge

17:45 Personal vs Professional Integration

18:23 Building Credibility as a Consultant

19:07 Starting With Zero Trust (Reality Check)

19:46 Quick Wins & Building Momentum

20:19 Why Being Yourself Matters at Work

21:13 Small Wins vs Big Transformations

22:21 Why He Stopped Posting on LinkedIn

23:17 The Problem with Agile Dogma

24:00 What Agile Is Actually About

24:42 Where to Connect with Dave



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