
Scrum Master vs Delivery Manager: What’s the Difference?: David Erskine-Shaw
How do you break into tech delivery without a technical background?
In this episode, Dave shares his journey from working in HMRC and sales roles to becoming a highly experienced Agile delivery professional , working across fintech, aviation tech, and large-scale organisations.
We cover:
How to get into tech without coding
The difference between Scrum Master, Delivery Manager & Project Manager
Why sales skills are underrated in tech careers
The reality of Agile consulting and contracting
How to build credibility when joining a new team
Why quick wins matter more than big transformations
The importance of culture, chemistry, and being yourself at work
Dave also shares a powerful perspective on Agile:
It’s not about “doing Scrum”, it’s about delivering value.
If you're trying to move into tech, grow as a delivery leader, or become a better consultant, this episode is packed with real-world insights.
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▶︎Chapters:
0:00 Introduction to Dave
0:21 10+ Years in Tech Delivery Explained
0:49 Learning Across Roles (Tester → BA → Delivery)
1:23 Why He Chose Delivery Over Technical Roles
1:41 Life Before Tech (HMRC, Sales & Early Career)
2:24 The Reality of Moving Into the Private Sector
2:42 Lessons Learned from Sales (Underrated Skills)
3:27 Advice for Young People Starting Careers
4:02 Why “Earning Your Stripes” Matters
5:13 The Role That Changed Everything (Law Firm)
5:42 Moving Into Leadership Through Performance
6:01 First Step Into Tech (Testing Role)
6:40 Becoming a Scrum Master & Delivery Leader
7:30 Why He Leaned Into Delivery Management
8:05 “Jack of All Trades” – Strength or Weakness?
8:40 Leaving a Role to Grow Your Career
9:16 Working in Aviation Tech & Fintech
9:51 Why Delivery Manager Is the Best Role
10:24 Why He Moved Into Contracting
11:09 Making Yourself Redundant as a Scrum Master
12:01 Agile Consulting Life Explained
12:53 What Good Agile Teams Look Like
13:47 Scaling Delivery & Improving Teams
14:42 Looking at the Full System (Not Just Scrum)
15:24 Why Chemistry Matters in Teams
16:04 Culture Shock: Liverpool vs Cambridge
17:45 Personal vs Professional Integration
18:23 Building Credibility as a Consultant
19:07 Starting With Zero Trust (Reality Check)
19:46 Quick Wins & Building Momentum
20:19 Why Being Yourself Matters at Work
21:13 Small Wins vs Big Transformations
22:21 Why He Stopped Posting on LinkedIn
23:17 The Problem with Agile Dogma
24:00 What Agile Is Actually About
24:42 Where to Connect with Dave
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